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Scam attempts on Telegram become a very big problem and I like to compare it to Discord in the 2017 year. I don't know how many of you remember this, but Discord was the mainly used chat app for ICO's, bounty and other cryptocurrencies focused groups from the beginning of Bitcointalk. Scammers took advantage of the Discord complicated features and deployed many scammy bots. It was so much of them, that they were everywhere, even Discord announced at this time (2017 year), that the problem is so big, that they just can't guarantee the safety and everybody has to be very careful when using it. Finally, Telegram started taking the place of Discord because it was a lot more simple to use and secure. Still, scammers keep constantly looking for new ways to improve their technics in scamming people. Lately, I become multiple messages on Telegram from many different people, with multiple requests and 99% of them are scam attempts. I see that even average people are trying to use the anonymity of Telegram and attempt to scam others in various ways. From simply "friend scam" to sophisticated once, which involves hours of talking, fake documents and websites. The approach is the same they message you and start to talk and try to become your "friends" but always finally they will introduce the offer which is one of a kind ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .
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October 12, 2019, 11:25:53 AM |
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Scammer can do thing like what OP stated but they can't add Admin label besided display name, so the true admin is have Admin label next on their display name, users should aware and double check the true admin. see the image below https://i.postimg.cc/0rd1r5Sm/tele-admin.jpgyeap and better when admins do not speak with users in PM thats the best option to know, that someone try to scam you
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October 12, 2019, 02:49:29 PM Last edit: October 12, 2019, 03:14:40 PM by LbtalkL |
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This is an old trick by scammers but maybe new to you, There's only one thing to remember to avoid this scammer, Remember Admin never DM first unless he mentions it on the group that he will DM you. If someone DM you. No matter what he/she say for sure he's a scammer/thief. You can verify by going to the group find the admin with admin tag send a message if no history for sure the person that pm you first is a scammer.
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October 12, 2019, 05:42:36 PM |
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They biggest problem is that there is no clear moderation on telegram like it is on this forum or some sub Reddit. At-least in this forum a newbie can be able to see the trust ratings of a scammer and know right away not to deal with them.
Impersonators are also always nuked and this helps alot.
Well you can not expect there are well. That's not a community like forums but a chatting apps. Will you expect whatsapp team to moderate users chat or discord team to moderate discord channels? No. In telegram they can just disable this few features and then everything will be fine. We will see less scams.
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October 12, 2019, 07:00:55 PM |
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This is an old trick by scammers but maybe new to you, There's only one thing to remember to avoid this scammer, Remember Admin never DM first unless he mentions it on the group that he will DM you. If someone DM you. No matter what he/she say for sure he's a scammer/thief. You can verify by going to the group find the admin with admin tag send a message if no history for sure the person that pm you first is a scammer.
Experienced the same trick tho, It happens a few months back. Scammers really trying to persuade and take advantage of the people who will be baited by this trick. Scammer keeps finding new method in order to take advantage of us and the way we can about this is to get extra careful on our surroundings and informing others about the method that the scammers do in order for others to be aware of the possibilities that they might be scammed.
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October 12, 2019, 10:09:51 PM |
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Most of newbies wouldn't think much and probably they might fall. So please share it with your friends.
i think the best way to not getting scam like this is follow the rules that every project put in the pinned message on telegram i always see it pinned message like this "Admin Never PM you First" so if the admin pm you first than it's a scam because they always told us that we need to chat the admin first not otherwise
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October 12, 2019, 11:25:51 PM |
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I have experienced this one a scammer contacted me on telegram. Interrogating about my personal details about my eth address and also if I’m planning to invest in their project. Good thing I visit their legit telegram and I've found out it’s a fake admin whose swindling many investors. It is very important not to trust easily in a telegram group where you belong since scammer is rampant these days.
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October 13, 2019, 01:12:32 PM |
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Yes, I often met such people and I just hate them. Immediately block scammer.
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October 13, 2019, 02:35:15 PM |
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October 13, 2019, 04:21:54 PM |
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Well telegram is the heaven for scammers. You can change username You can delete conversations from both side
I thing these two are too annoying feature in telegram and people abuse it a lot. The technique you have seen is not new at all. I have seen them before several times.
I have been using telegram and I am added in lot of crypto coins official and discussions groups. From my experience, Whenever I try to ask any question in the telegram group, many times people starting PM me as they think I am new here and they can scam me ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I never pay attention to their messages or offers I would say.
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October 13, 2019, 07:54:36 PM |
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I'm not surprised that such scam is coming from telegram app, thanks for the information @ OP I believe that this will be an eye opener to lots of people, The rate at which people are being scam on telegram is quite alarming , lots of scammers claiming to be CEO of a particular project do chat up, someone has to be extra careful not to fall victim
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October 13, 2019, 08:51:23 PM |
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Newbies should take this warning seriously. When looking at the profile there's not much different in name but the scammer added username in the bio section as stated by op and username have it's own section. People should not get involved to someone you don't know or someone giving you an offer.
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October 14, 2019, 01:24:46 AM |
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Actually, I am not too surprised to see your article. Fraud on Telegram takes place every day, with an increasing number. Victims are easily confused and fall into the trap of deceivers. Always remember that the Admin will never send you the first message.
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October 14, 2019, 02:12:06 PM |
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Admin label doesn't appear on private messages and that is why using the space for bio works for some scammers.
I know that, what I mentioned to ensure that he is clone or not. What I do when get PMs from people I don't know and use display name like ICOs project is check in the telegram group and see the list of names to see if it a real account or clone.
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October 14, 2019, 02:24:51 PM |
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Admin label doesn't appear on private messages and that is why using the space for bio works for some scammers.
I know that, what I mentioned to ensure that he is clone or not. What I do when get PMs from people I don't know and use display name like ICOs project is check in the telegram group and see the list of names to see if it a real account or clone. That could help but if someone is unaware of the difference between the space for username and bio, it wouldn't help much unless that user would personally ask (not just check the list of name) in the group chat. Scammers would copy exactly the display name and the username (but put in in their bio instead).
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October 14, 2019, 03:27:38 PM |
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Well, this is the first time I see it, and on first glance, it fooled me when I have quite the experience with this sort of things, thanks for sharing that I can imagine this fooling a lot of inexperienced folks.
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October 15, 2019, 12:01:02 PM |
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Well telegram is the heaven for scammers. You can change username You can delete conversations from both side
I thing these two are too annoying feature in telegram and people abuse it a lot. The technique you have seen is not new at all. I have seen them before several times.
Scammer will not be able to deceive you: if you do not send him your money, if you do not follow the links that he dumps to you, if you do not answer those who write to you first in telegram chats. Without your help, scammers cannot steal anything from you. No need to blame the platform and its functionality, which, in my opinion, is excellent. You need to teach yourself attentiveness and rationalism.
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October 15, 2019, 04:04:05 PM |
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Well telegram is the heaven for scammers. You can change username You can delete conversations from both side
I thing these two are too annoying feature in telegram and people abuse it a lot. The technique you have seen is not new at all. I have seen them before several times.
Vigilance is the most powerful sword we can have against scammers and fakes for they've been around and is spreading their crimes, acting like the viruses and bacterias on your doorknobs waiting for you to touch it and stick to your hands and travel whenever your hands will land on. Taking a look at everything and being extra careful and scrutinizing isn't a big thing and won't cost u anything so do as it is for your own safety and protection.
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October 16, 2019, 12:26:36 AM |
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This is an old trick by scammers but maybe new to you, There's only one thing to remember to avoid this scammer, Remember Admin never DM first unless he mentions it on the group that he will DM you. If someone DM you. No matter what he/she say for sure he's a scammer/thief. You can verify by going to the group find the admin with admin tag send a message if no history for sure the person that pm you first is a scammer.
Experienced the same trick tho, It happens a few months back. Scammers really trying to persuade and take advantage of the people who will be baited by this trick. Scammer keeps finding new method in order to take advantage of us and the way we can about this is to get extra careful on our surroundings and informing others about the method that the scammers do in order for others to be aware of the possibilities that they might be scammed. Yes, this is a good initiative by OP informing who are new to these industries and can be easily deceived by these scammer/bad actors. I want to add something. Some scammers are too aggressive they even create a copy of the telegram group and make themselves look like a legit admin. So we need to check the telegram group also if it is official you can verify it by going on their website usually found on the bottom of the page, social media links.
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October 16, 2019, 01:45:43 AM |
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This is October 2019 and this is not a new technique. Seen it since last year. Hundreds of attempts like these. Unless you are expecting someone to message you. The moment you hit high user number groups like exchange supports or new ICO, you are bound to get these. Just be extra vigilant. Good share.
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