BEWARE OF SUPER SCAM: P2PB2B claim to be worlds biggest exchange !

[JollyGood]

Well, it is better to trade with caution. If a scam accusation has been leveled against an exchange, I will rather stay off when there are many alternatives

That same principle should be applied by all users.

There are so many options and alternatives to use, everybody should stay away from these scammers at p2pb2b and its sister scam exchange coinsbit too. why would anybody risk losing their crypto for just trying to trade?

These scammers are selective scamming users so please avoid p2pb2b and its sister scam exchange coinsbit

[Aktarus]

P2PB2B is obviously a scam, if you have any assets there I recommend you to withdraw them asap (if you can...)

https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

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P2PB2B is obviously a scam, if you have any assets there I recommend you to withdraw them asap (if you can...)

https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

Nice thread, I shared it. many users are stuck with funds there.

Check comments on his pinned tweet:
https://twitter.com/p2pb2b/status/1096075683602853888

[TimeTeller]

Well, it is better to trade with caution. If a scam accusation has been leveled against an exchange, I will rather stay off when there are many alternatives

That same principle should be applied by all users.

There are so many options and alternatives to use, everybody should stay away from these scammers at p2pb2b and its sister scam exchange coinsbit too. why would anybody risk losing their crypto for just trying to trade?

These scammers are selective scamming users so please avoid p2pb2b and its sister scam exchange coinsbit

I have never used p2pb2b or coinsbit yet, but have no intentions to use it anymore after reading a lot of complaints and shady behaviors.
It is really amusing that this exchange get ahead of binance at some point.
More than likely their bots were so busy doing their own trading.
Though most exchanges resort to faking their trading volume at some point, but this one is doing it over the edge that you can clearly see their dishonesty.

[JollyGood]

I have never used p2pb2b or coinsbit yet, but have no intentions to use it anymore after reading a lot of complaints and shady behaviors.
It is really amusing that this exchange get ahead of binance at some point.
More than likely their bots were so busy doing their own trading.
Though most exchanges resort to faking their trading volume at some point, but this one is doing it over the edge that you can clearly see their dishonesty.

Yes the dishonesty by p2pb2b is on an unbelievable industrial level. Just the idea they are bigger than Binance is unthinkable. It is not just about bots, their order books show nothing is going on yet they are sending fake data to CMC.

After a hiatus, both coinsbit scam and p2pb2b scam returned here in November/December 2018 just as the IEO craze was taking off. The scammer behind them (Valerii Solodovnyk from Ukraine) wanted to charge extortionate amounts of money to genuine projects for listing their IEOs ($100,000) and he also wants to use fake projects he created himself under a fake team and then have the IEO on coinsbit and p2pb2b after heavily promoting it on his exchanges.

You did the right thing when deciding to stay well clear of these scammers and their fake exchanges.

[Cryptokeeping]

They got me too. I was searching for a thinly traded altcoin. Only listed on 2 exchanges. I signed up for p2pb2b. Passed verification , made my deposit and bought an altcoin. Tried to withdraw,
Transaction stuck in “waiting on admin”. Kept checking and status changed to “notifier exception”. Found this post and knew my coins are gone forever. Opened up a b.s. support ticket 2 days ago. No response. Asked chat about it. Got the same msg “wait”. Meantime coin is going up and up. Maybe a month or so I will get my original btc back or purchased altcoin but not counting on it. I’m sure if I do get anything it will be the lower of the values at the time.
I have all screen shots if anyone cares. Also I’m down to file claims or forms if anybody starts complaining to the right people. Let me know.
Til then. Thanks guys. Wish I would have seen this before I made a deposit.

[stompix]

Well, the good news is that they are not the largest exchange anymore.
The not so good news is that they are still the 4th by reported volume.
The really really bad news is that some exchanges just as shady have reached 12 even billions in daily trade!!!

Coinmarketcap has become a real joke, a sad one.



At this pace, by the end of the year, we will have a trade volume exceeding twice or even three times the entire marketcap.

[JollyGood]

They got me too. I was searching for a thinly traded altcoin. Only listed on 2 exchanges. I signed up for p2pb2b. Passed verification , made my deposit and bought an altcoin. Tried to withdraw,
Transaction stuck in “waiting on admin”. Kept checking and status changed to “notifier exception”. Found this post and knew my coins are gone forever. Opened up a b.s. support ticket 2 days ago. No response. Asked chat about it. Got the same msg “wait”. Meantime coin is going up and up. Maybe a month or so I will get my original btc back or purchased altcoin but not counting on it. I’m sure if I do get anything it will be the lower of the values at the time.
I have all screen shots if anyone cares. Also I’m down to file claims or forms if anybody starts complaining to the right people. Let me know.
Til then. Thanks guys. Wish I would have seen this before I made a deposit.

I am sorry to read about you getting scammed by p2pb2b. Please remember that coinsbit is also owned by the same scammers.

All users must avoid those exchanges.

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Well, the good news is that they are not the largest exchange anymore.
The not so good news is that they are still the 4th by reported volume.
The really really bad news is that some exchanges just as shady have reached 12 even billions in daily trade!!!

Coinmarketcap has become a real joke, a sad one.

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At this pace, by the end of the year, we will have a trade volume exceeding twice or even three times the entire marketcap.

You mean, they are not the largest scam exchange. 

Despite many proven scam accusation to this exchange, they are still listed on CMC. Just found out yesterday that CMC will add exchange on his list even if they not registered as a company.
CMC bears equal guilt like this scammers because still keep them on their list and thus help them in his fraud business. I absolutely agree with you, Coinmarketcap became joke though it's one of the most recognizable services in the crypto world.

[fratoshi]

P2PB2B have more volume than Binance, obviously that volume is 99% fake, i just submit a request to Coinmarketcap to have B2BP2P removed because of fraud





Some thing that are found on twitter are funny

[Dutchytalk]

Well I'm back, still I see there is no hard evidence to support claims which is sad, just means Jolly and his friends are just doing a half assed job. Important job that you gave yourself but lacks the effort required to give yourself to much credit.

I'm all for exposing scams and we'll seems so far if it is a scam then the noobs are not the targets the big business men are for these exchanges. Fake volume proves nothing towards scam as it's common practice in this neck of the woods. How about some proof that the "SUPER SCAMMER" actually owns these exchanges and then proof of his previous scams? Please at least do this as it's all good for you to point the finger but with a half assed effort your just not very convincing and everyone is just expected to take your word for it?

Anyway seems that it isn't just the big business they are targeting after my experience today they are also targeting chicken feed amounts.

The CWN token listed on coinsbit with its airdrop advertised has certainly raised a lot of question marks for me after today's experience. I did the requirements with the telegram bot and seems windows to withdraw are small and today I finally was around for a window. But I'm asked to send 0.0010989720eth (0.21usd)to and address to receive my 100cwn (0.17usd) listed on coinsbit not sure where else. I go into the cwn discussion channel and state the figures and get banned instantly. Lol still not hard evidence but I can not make a logical reason for anything but scam. Also must note that the CWN telegram main channel has 120k members.

So go investigate that if you would and please if your going to take on such an important role to save the innocent Jolly then do more then a half assed job......

What happened to that person on here that had the banner:

Big allegations require even bigger evidence (means the same) because they had it right. If you want to be a super hero and save innocent people from the "SUPER SCAMMERS"Then nothing less then a super effort is required.,............

[Aktarus]

lol... No seriously! This joke must stop
1700 unique visits per day and 1.5 Billion?
Don't tell me CMC cannot add a REAL value in their algorithm to make it more realistic.

[fratoshi]

The reported 3.5 mil USD of trading on the DOGE/USD market
But only have 29$ on the orderbook

How is that possible?
Can someone explain me?

[81AleksandrKra]

The reported 3.5 mil USD of trading on the DOGE/USD market
But only have 29$ on the orderbook

How is that possible?
Can someone explain me?

Unfortunately, this can be said about almost all 300 exchanges that exist on the crypto market today. I don’t think that Coinsbit is much worse or better than others. Why is so much dirt directed at Coinsbit?

[tmfp]

I don’t think that Coinsbit is much worse or better than others. Why is so much dirt directed at Coinsbit?

This type of deflection is called "Whataboutism".
If someone is a liar and a thief, then they are a liar and a thief. It makes no difference if they choose to operate in a field occupied by other liars and thieves.

[JollyGood]

lol... No seriously! This joke must stop
1700 unique visits per day and 1.5 Billion?
Don't tell me CMC cannot add a REAL value in their algorithm to make it more realistic.

The scammer owner of p2pb2b and coinsbit (Valerii Solodovnyk from Ukraine) is a disgrace.

He will go to any lengths to scam people. Using fake volumes is something he does with all his scam exchanges.

[stompix]

Finally, coinmarketcap does something good
https://blog.coinmarketcap.com/2019/11/11/coinmarketcap-launches-new-liquidity-metric/

To be honest, I don't know how accurate this thing is and, it's weekend  , I don't spend too much time digging around during it.
But, looking at the results and the ranking it might be accurate:

https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/liquidity/

This is how the top 10 looks:


which in my opinion si far more credible.


P2PB2B went down to 22 and the one and a half trillion volume fake EXX to 48.

[tmfp]

Finally, coinmarketcap does something good
https://blog.coinmarketcap.com/2019/11/11/coinmarketcap-launches-new-liquidity-metric/

To be honest, I don't know how accurate this thing is and, it's weekend  , I don't spend too much time digging around during it.
But, looking at the results and the ranking it might be accurate:

https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/liquidity/

Thanks for that, I knew they were promising something along those lines but, tbh I stopped looking at CMC out of disgust a couple of weeks ago.
First reaction (o/t, nothing to do with P2PB2B) is a total liquidity ~$342,000,000 plays a market cap of $234,229,860,214 and, even more ludicrously a claimed 24hr volume of  $57,485,495,658.
How broken is that?

Edit: Hey stompix, have another merit for motivating me to post this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202098.0  

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despite all the warnings, and drawing attention about p2pb2b scam, we always have new scam accusations against them: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202319.0
they will never stop, and there will always be people who are lazy to do a little research before sending his money.

[suchmoon]

They're running a signature campaign now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203715.0