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October 15, 2019, 07:20:30 PM
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Bitcointalk.org only gets nowadays 3.1 million viewers thats actually nothing compared with it once had per month (over 30 milion)



what are your plans to reverse this?

alternative more neutral cryptoforums are rising in their viewer numbers,
like cryptotalk.org

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October 15, 2019, 07:39:16 PM
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alternative more neutral cryptoforums are rising in their viewer numbers,
like cryptotalk.org

Cryptotalk is PAYING to promote itself on THIS forum (and is also paying, albeit a lot less, to post on their own forum). Not to mention it's Yobit's propaganda tool.

Maybe bitcointalk should pay to promote itself on Ver's forum. I wonder how that would go.

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Check those numbers again next bull run. It's just a healthy cycle.
 

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October 15, 2019, 07:54:26 PM
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Cryptotalk is PAYING to promote itself on THIS forum (and is also paying, albeit a lot less, to post on their own forum). Not to mention it's Yobit's propaganda tool.

Maybe bitcointalk should pay to promote itself on Ver's forum. I wonder how that would go.


Probably it would piss off Ver and give him something to make another youtube video about, and get us nothing because whoever posts on forum.bitcoin.com is already paid to do so. Just go there and check out bitcoin discussion. I just did and there were literally 5 fresh threads. Then switch to bitcointalk and the same bitcoin discussion has over 60 threads with recent posts. Maybe if we did that on reddit the results would be better, but whoever posts for those pennies they pay on cryptotalk is not going to come up with anything unique. They chose to buy traffic whatever it may be and got a crowd of shitposters from Africa. Good job Yobit!

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October 15, 2019, 07:55:12 PM
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Cryptotalk is PAYING to promote itself on THIS forum (and is also paying, albeit a lot less, to post on their own forum).
I don't know if that's irony or not, but I do remember a couple of years ago someone here tried to start up a forum where members would get paid to post there.  They even hired moderators from bitcointalk--but the thing turned out to be not only a scam, since nobody got paid, but the forum got zero traffic.  The posts that members there did make were god-awful shitposts.  Just what you'd expect from a new forum that skims the dried up fecal matter from the bottom of this forum.

Interesting to see that most traffic is coming from Russia lately.  And I highly doubt bitcointalk is in trouble.  I'd like to ask OP when the forum was getting 30 million views per month.  That was probably in 2017?  If so, that makes sense.  People tend to flock here when the price of bitcoin does its little firecracker act and starts shooting towards new all-time highs, because then the shitposters start really getting interested in earning via bounties and whatnot.  And when bitcoin is down, like it is now, fewer people come here.

Check those numbers again next bull run. It's just a healthy cycle.
OK, that's basically what I was trying to say.  You beat me to it.

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October 15, 2019, 07:57:38 PM
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There had been crypto forums before cryptotalk and all of them failed. I won't be surprise they'd also fail. They should just promote yobit exchange directly instead.

 
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October 15, 2019, 08:04:40 PM
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Interesting to see that most traffic is coming from Russia lately.  And I highly doubt bitcointalk is in trouble.  I'd like to ask OP when the forum was getting 30 million views per month.  That was probably in 2017?

SimilarWeb numbers are BS and have been previously debunked in another thread started by the OP, I just can't be bothered to find it. You can refer to ad stats for a more accurate trend:

https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats

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October 15, 2019, 08:06:44 PM
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what are your plans to reverse this?

The forum is fueled by the members and most of the activities that go on is unregulated (except for spam and plagiarism). Hence the administrators can technically not do anything about the drop in activity or views.

The forum also favours quality above quantity, the enhanced newbie restriction would surely have reduced the number of daily visitors, as it took away the incentive for many members to post, for those unwilling to make an effort to earn merits.

alternative more neutral cryptoforums are rising in their viewer numbers

Bitcointalk is a neutral forum AFAIK. The alternate forum you suggested uses incentive to attract users. And in my experience in community management, that only lasts as long as you can sustain it. Organic growth is always the best option.

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October 15, 2019, 08:39:34 PM
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Most failed models of post incentives -> new users result in posts up to the quality that you pay for and since most of the time, the payment incentives are extremely small just due to common pragmatism, you will get pretty piss-poor posts.

The previous peak saw 3 538 524 users. (July 10 2019, $13 000).
One of the local bubbles saw 5 220 637 users. (July 29 2018, $8 200).
The ATH peak saw 4 121 946 users. (Dec 17 2019, $20 000).

The current numbers are 3 350 806... not that bad, comparatively.

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October 15, 2019, 08:55:02 PM
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Bitcointalk.org only gets nowadays 3.1 million viewers thats actually nothing compared with it once had per month (over 30 milion)

Maybe the "30 million" visits were an anomaly (bullrun, bots, signature campaigns, etc...) and now the 3 million visits are more normal ? What were the figures before the bullrun of 2017 ?

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Do nothing and enjoy the calm before the next bullrun ?

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October 15, 2019, 08:57:20 PM
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@KingScorpio

Such websites are well known from webmasters to be only wrong. It's like Alexa rank, for entertainment only. You also perfectly know it's somehow related to the cryptocurrency trend/interest. You can't expect to see the same as back in 2017.

Cryptotalk? You make me laugh. The only reason they get the few users there are it is because they get paid as someone said. And seeing the huge crap they post here already, I can't imagine how it goes there.

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October 15, 2019, 09:24:53 PM
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Maybe the "30 million" visits were an anomaly (bullrun, bots, signature campaigns, etc...) and now the 3 million visits are more normal ? What were the figures before the bullrun of 2017 ?
That drop in number of visitors is completely normal.
Look at the chart below
The chart shows how much "Bitcoin" has been searched on "Google" over the time. Number of searches has been decreased by 90%. There is a same trend for number of visits of Crypto-related websites.

Source: https://trends.google.com/

 
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October 15, 2019, 10:45:57 PM
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Number of Bitcointalk visitors is directly related with Bitcoin price. So, it's normal thing that there is much less visitors here than in 2017 for example.
And smaller number of forum users isn't always a bad thing. Remember what was going here back in 2017 - it was almost impossible to use forum due to incredible quanity of spam. Lot of things changed into positive side since then - merit system, wave of bans and etc - it helped to clean up forum. Bounties is pretty much dead thing now - it also attract less number of visitors to forum.




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October 15, 2019, 10:59:11 PM
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bitcointalk had its highest amount of viewers at around 7000 in april 2013
cryptotalk had its highest amount of viewers at 1545 just 5 hours ago.

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That thin blue line, before the first spike, were the original users that didn't care about the price.

Those are the users that should get the anniversary coins.   Grin

bitcointalk had its highest amount of viewers at around 7000 in april 2013
cryptotalk had its highest amount of viewers at 1545 just 5 hours ago.

Bitcointalk would have about 14,000 viewers based on current Page View numbers and the past online visitors, which it no longer records.  :/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

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Is this forum not afraid about it's demise?
The forum is never destroyed, the Forum does not expect anything certain, precisely the people who come here will be destroyed, if they cannot control themselves in looking for money, carelessness, forgery, fraud.
The proof is that here, every day is increasing and growing, New account want to enter.


People are never bored with money, for example in the Cryptotalk campaign.
How many people slam every day and it does not decrease people want to find money for credit installments, who sleep a long time too wake up in a dream for the sake of personal credit installments.

That's just one campaign that was developed like yobit in this forum, thousands of accounts appear, try to imagine if a campaign like yobit is developed in this forum 5 to 10 campaigns, maybe even the dead join create accounts for money to buy hell.

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October 16, 2019, 01:07:52 AM
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bitcointalk had its highest amount of viewers at around 7000 in april 2013
cryptotalk had its highest amount of viewers at 1545 just 5 hours ago.

Bitcointalk would have about 14,000 viewers based on current Page View numbers and the past online visitors, which it no longer records.  :/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

The highest that archive.org recorded bitcointalk showing was on 2017/11/24, 12647 online users: https://web.archive.org/web/20171124145213/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

It was close to the peak of BTC price and at the height of the altcoin craze, spam was also a bigger problem than now in the pre-merit system times.


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October 16, 2019, 02:10:32 AM
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I didn't take price into account.  Smiley  I just guesstimated the ratio of page views per online user and applied it to today.

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October 16, 2019, 03:33:20 AM
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It is for sure that SimilarWeb's Data is not 100% accurate, this type of third-party platforms are just used to get a rough estimate of traffic data and this data varies platforms to platforms.

As an example, see the image below. It is from SeoQuake and the results in both platforms are different.



One thing to notice that the bounce rate is high in both platforms which is I'm very much disagreed to.

Maybe connecting Google Analytics account with SimilarWeb can represent better data publicly? I believe Google is one of the best trackers out there.

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October 16, 2019, 03:40:39 AM
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Why would this place be afraid? Even if traffic died down a bit, those people whom contribute to the community wouldn't be the ones leaving. Besides, bitcointalk still has its campaign/bounty forum. I doubt people would leave it since it's basically money for your services in posting. Those that left would probably people who got tired of shit posting and those that stayed were those whom were engaged in learning while doing their bounties.

 
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