Don't run for merits!

[NeuroticFish]

On this forum, Merit provides great opportunities, so everyone wants it.

Merit doesn't offer anything other than reaching ranks.

Yep. Just reaching ranks means bigger pay in all the bounties, for basically the same job.
The problem is that many come to this forum only to earn money. This spoils the fun in the forum, fills it with nonsense and so on. Many of them may not even care about crypto.

People don't plan for long term and I think that OP should have emphasized this much more: if you go from day one for "how to get merit?", you most probably get either banned for plagiarism in less than a year, either get negative feedback for doing something fishy, either find almost impossible to rank higher than maybe Member. All this meaning no pay or low pay, so the opposite of the initial intention.

OP is right. Learning, reading before answering, keeping the discussions at useful and informative levels will be in the benefit of everybody involved and in a year or two you may be thanking yourself for going on this path.

[Battareus]

Everyone on this forum decided to get to know bitcoin better in order to earn money, I don’t think that anyone is attracted by the idea of ​​transferring funds from user to user without a bank, is simple idea at first glance. If the amount of bitcoin was not limited and could be obtained easily, the forum would have remained the place for a couple of dozen geeks.
Merit is needed, for example, to participate in some signature campaigns and in general it is nice to know that you have some kind of rating which is given for a reason.
It is unfortunate that the merit is a wraparound score that does not reflect reality. There are many ways to get it undeservedly. I understand why you are not hunting him.

[Kakmakr]

A lot of people are chasing merit for financial gain and that is just wrong. The merit was introduced to reward good quality posts and to improve the overall posting quality. It was introduced because the forum was spammed with crappy posters that were chasing an increase in their "rank" to receive more money from Signature and Bounty campaigns.

Now the users on this forum, decides if people are going to rank up or not and the posters must work so much harder to improve their post quality to increase their rank on the forum.

The forum benefit a lot from this merit system and it improves the experience for everyone using this forum. 

[Findingnemo]

On this forum, Merit provides great opportunities, so everyone wants it.

Merit doesn't offer anything other than reaching ranks.

Yep. Just reaching ranks means bigger pay in all the bounties, for basically the same job.
The problem is that many come to this forum only to earn money. This spoils the fun in the forum, fills it with nonsense and so on. Many of them may not even care about crypto.

People don't plan for long term and I think that OP should have emphasized this much more: if you go from day one for "how to get merit?", you most probably get either banned for plagiarism in less than a year, either get negative feedback for doing something fishy, either find almost impossible to rank higher than maybe Member. All this meaning no pay or low pay, so the opposite of the initial intention.

OP is right. Learning, reading before answering, keeping the discussions at useful and informative levels will be in the benefit of everybody involved and in a year or two you may be thanking yourself for going on this path.

I just want to keep the things really simple or people may think that this is another thread for merit hunting.

Yes long term benefit and also the real benefit can be found from the knowledge we are getting,I really didn't have much knowledge about financial things but now I am managed to understand how to make money work for us and I am making my monthly salary in a week itself by doing trading.

Everyone have to utilize the knowledge found here in the right way not just for the bounty post quota.

[khaled0111]

It would be better if we have more threads on "how to write high quality posts" than thread on "how to earn merits".
In fact it is the same thing because if you write high quality and useful posts you will earn merits. Thread title tells you how OP thinks, if he uses the later then you know he is here just for money.

[creepyjas]

Technically merits are not to be beg for nor to root in every post a member will make. Merits will come your way if you can share knowledge, ideas and interesting things in the forum. People should just be the very best of themselves in posting or commenting on threads. Make a comment full of sense will give you merits once someone liked the post. Merit giveaway is subjective and it always depends to the merit source/donor. Just be yourself and always share what you learn in the forum. Make everything full of sense.

[barnes13]

Your opinion is not wrong, it is true that if we try to contribute to this forum and provide the best you can, then others will appreciate your efforts in helping fellow members.
As a result they will give you merit for answers that can help them.
I also don't really hunt for merit, I just have to be myself and do my best for this forum.

Cheers!!

[ivakar]

i'd say that merit system could be used as some kind of corruption system 
yeah, don't shout to me that I lost my mind.
this is is build on fact, the more you have merits - the more you have some kind of benefits ( ranks and etc)
merits could be distributed between users, that means some can create shady business with purpose to help you gain more merits, but not with your hard thinking and quality posts, but proposing easier way - by paying real money, gain some merits.
I do not know if such system exist, but I can see the possibility. 

[Upgrade00]

It would be better if we have more threads on "how to write high quality posts" than thread on "how to earn merits".

But merits is the catch and it was intended to be, and motivate users to make more constructive contributions.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

Aside merit begging or plagiarism, putting in efforts at making posts which are helpful and relevant for the purpose of getting merits is not a bad ideology and I would encourage it.

[evgenia_volkova]

I agree with you and also do not have much focus on racing for the merits but, if we think from the other side of the sphere then it is probably because of the privileges that comes with merits people prefer chasing it.

Like I said earlier the only privilege of having more merits is next rank but if people trying to chase it with unnecessary contents then it will also leads to uncontrollable spam which may end up with no more signatures in bitcointalk.

I did not get you. Do you really think one who is posting unnecessary content is run after merit? If there is some unnecessary content then noone will waste their smerits on them.

This forum allows all of us to report to the admin if we find something unnecessary. unnecessary content  = spamming. And we all know that there is not seat for spammers in this platform. Spammers may created 10- 15 comment max then someone or the other will report.

Ranking is a hole different thing necessary content can only get merit. So, one who is after ranking or merit is forced to post necessary things else that fellow member is out of the community irrespective of the merits owned or the past comments made.

[DdmrDdmr]

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At some point, that has probably happened, and on a low key tone it probably still does. Back in September 2018, when the 1 merit was introduced in order to become a Jr. Member, there was a sudden surge of merit being awarded (see the spike for merit receivers and senders during September 2018 here: https://public.tableau.com/shared/WSCFM79MN?:display_count=yes&:origin=viz_share_link). Probably a lot of Alt meriting too, but bought and sold merit likely took place behind the scenes.

Pulling something off on a larger scale is a bit more difficult, since merit awarding is often scrutinized by forum members, but again not impossible, although finding a wealthy meriter involved is less likely that on a profile that has a couple to go by.

[Coyster]

Ranking is a hole different thing necessary content can only get merit. So, one who is after ranking or merit is forced to post necessary things else that fellow member is out of the community irrespective of the merits owned or the past comments made.

It took me quite a while to understand you, but what is said is correct, one can try as much as possible to earn merits and even make it an obsession, but until such user puts in quality into their posts, then it's as good as they aren't doing anything.

Whether one is after merits or not isn't the business of the forum, as long as such user is posting qualitative content, then such user would deservedly earn merits, we cannot decipher whats in the mind of a user, but we definitely do not need one line spammers or plagiarists. Want merits? Do the right thing!

[MFahad]

I think that mainly people who came here with wrong reasons are mainly trying to chase for merits. They desperately trying to get it because they need to rank up to earn money here. I often see people making very generic guides without putting any effort and they expect that someone will flow them with merits.
I can't say that I don't care about merits at all, but I really don't think much about it.
And in general, I got impression that some people over exaggerate forum stuff, like merits, trust system and etc. It's like they don't have life outside forum. But maybe I'm wrong...

Other than the rank up due to merits, you are considered a quality poster if you have a lot of merit or you are earning merit quite regularly. I don't know it is right thinking but this is the other reason why people are chasing merit. In case you have very good posts and you are not earning that much amount of merit, does it mean that you posts are not worth reading or you are been ignored. This is a long debate but merits are important here.

I think after writing a good post we should not expect it to get merit. A lot of expectations sometimes can make you lazy and disappointed. Keep contributing good and hope for the good.

[evgenia_volkova]

Want merits? Do the right thing!

You caught me right there All my words to mean this one sentence.

And to the spammers running for merits: Keep running until you are banned or you learn to behave. If you want to be on this platform better behave that is the only way you can save your time and energy.

[Mahanton]

This thing is in my mind for very long time now I decided to share with other forum members.

I can see lot of threads and guides for the newbie and other forum members says about "How to get merits",but is that necessary to chase merits? I never wanted to run behind merits because for me its like I am changing my attitude and posting behaviour to get something in return.Just be yourself and learn more about cryptos,why we wanted it and of course how to make money using cryptos.Help fellow forum members in the way you can,if you got recognized then merits will follow you up.

Ignore this topic if you didn't learn anything from this topic,I just wanted to say how I feels about getting merit.

Who doesnt want to get merits? Even if you do say that it do changes up your behavior then its your choice.We know that

"merit" is the primary requirement for you to rank up and also most people do know that the higher the rank do earn more in terms of bounties
and signature campaigns or any other related task.This is why they do normally having those aims on how to earn merits.
Even if you dont chase up you would really mind on how to get it faster.

[nakamura12]

It's true that merits is important when ranking up which this thread reminds me of myself before where i'm trying to earn merit as hard as I can like creating a guide thread. I've been through rough times and also got offended by other forum members which it hurts (a little bit sensitive) but trying not to show it to them so, I stop what I was doing before and later on I didn't expect that I can do it in a helpful way. Merit is nothing plus many people won't take it seriously and that's what I am thinking why theymos made it one the requirements to rank up is to use merit as a motivation to help in any way you can.

[Findingnemo]

Who doesnt want to get merits? Even if you do say that it do changes up your behavior then its your choice.We know that

"merit" is the primary requirement for you to rank up and also most people do know that the higher the rank do earn more in terms of bounties
and signature campaigns or any other related task.This is why they do normally having those aims on how to earn merits.
Even if you dont chase up you would really mind on how to get it faster.

Merit and Activity needed to rankup,but your primary reason for being in this forum is to earn money from bounties and other task then it is primary thing for you.

Earn merits which doesn't mean we have to chase it.

[AlmazWin]

Who doesnt want to get merits? Even if you do say that it do changes up your behavior then its your choice.We know that

"merit" is the primary requirement for you to rank up and also most people do know that the higher the rank do earn more in terms of bounties
and signature campaigns or any other related task.This is why they do normally having those aims on how to earn merits.
Even if you dont chase up you would really mind on how to get it faster.

Merit and Activity needed to rankup,but your primary reason for being in this forum is to earn money from bounties and other task then it is primary thing for you.

Earn merits which doesn't mean we have to chase it.

Not everyone runs here for merit

[finzyoj]

I never wanted to run behind merits because for me its like I am changing my attitude and posting behaviour to get something in return.Just be yourself and learn more about cryptos,why we wanted it and of course how to make money using cryptos.Help fellow forum members in the way you can,if you got recognized then merits will follow you up.

You nailed it dude! However, the sad reality weighs greater. Instead of treating this forum as a source of knowledge, they shifted and turn it into source of money thus merits for them are so important. That's why you may notice that, oh that's very obvious actually, some of members here get banned due to spamming, burstposting and sh*tposting and the main root of these are signature campaigns. They get blinded by the rewards which tend them to push their limits even if it's all wrong.

The greed lies within yourself not from the temptations outside. I am a cryptotalk participant and yet I'm not getting banned unlike most of the participants. Why? Simply because I have self discipline enough to follow the do's and don'ts at all times.

[erickastella]

yes, people who get merit are creative people in posts or comments because that's why people give them merit because for them reading their posts / comments that look good then they give him merit, lazy people who just want merit without any effort is bullshit.