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Crawford to win by UD.
Kavaliauskas is definitely no joke, and has a resume better than many of Crawford's opponents, but he's going up against the unified champ.
Definitely won't be better on Kavaliauskas in this one, the odds don't justify it, whereas Crawford has a 95% chance to win.
We should be getting 20:1 on Kavaliauskas, but that's the bookies for you.
So where should we put our money to? 20:1 is not a joke it's too much of an upper hand for Crawford. I think it will change as the match goes near it's schedule. Definitely Kava is a good bet if you are that kind of gamblers who likes to bet on the underdogs so that you can get a huge windfall if ever Kava upsets Crawford here. You know that boxing upsets so seldom happen, but if they did, like the recent Joshua vs Ruiz, you can be off for a good returns here.
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October 22, 2019, 01:57:54 AM |
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Additional for the boxing records. Terrence Crawford is totally has the advantage for the records. But this fight is exciting since these two professional boxers has both no lost. Exciting, eh? This match will be tough for both because this fight will decide for their first lost. (...)
And this is going to be the potential first loss for the any of their side. Before betting, I'll take a look for Kava first since Crawford is more popular and the crowd is on him. (....) Since the fight is still far, I think we can still see some adjustment for both teams, like their training; how they behave on their particular trainings or maybe we can see some injury while doing their trainings or some health issue. Well, it's still early to decide, that's why we are just analyzing based on their stats or on their professional boxing records.
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October 22, 2019, 03:53:38 AM |
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Additional for the boxing records. Terrence Crawford is totally has the advantage for the records. But this fight is exciting since these two professional boxers has both no lost. Exciting, eh? This match will be tough for both because this fight will decide for their first lost. (...)
And this is going to be the potential first loss for the any of their side. Before betting, I'll take a look for Kava first since Crawford is more popular and the crowd is on him. (....) Since the fight is still far, I think we can still see some adjustment for both teams, like their training; how they behave on their particular trainings or maybe we can see some injury while doing their trainings or some health issue. Well, it's still early to decide, that's why we are just analyzing based on their stats or on their professional boxing records. Additionally, we should also consider their boxing partners. This aspect of every fight has been almost neglected by bettors (newbies and veterans). We can get so much data from both boxers if we know who their boxing partners are. Crawford's trainer said in his interview that they'll be bringing "pressure" sparring partners. He said that Kavaliauskas applies different kinds of pressure to his opponent so they'll be focusing on this fight style.
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October 22, 2019, 09:22:44 PM |
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Additional for the boxing records. Terrence Crawford is totally has the advantage for the records. But this fight is exciting since these two professional boxers has both no lost. Exciting, eh? This match will be tough for both because this fight will decide for their first lost. (...)
And this is going to be the potential first loss for the any of their side. Before betting, I'll take a look for Kava first since Crawford is more popular and the crowd is on him. (....) Since the fight is still far, I think we can still see some adjustment for both teams, like their training; how they behave on their particular trainings or maybe we can see some injury while doing their trainings or some health issue. Well, it's still early to decide, that's why we are just analyzing based on their stats or on their professional boxing records. Yes, how they will execute the training will make a difference. That would depend on how their trainer will execute those basics that they have to gain, like in the foot work and adjustments. It's interesting to look on the other side of this match because the crowd sees this as a huge advantage but looking at the records of both. They have both the potential and showed an impressive stats so there's no way that we should ignore Crawford or Kava.
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October 22, 2019, 11:44:24 PM |
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It's interesting to look on the other side of this match because the crowd sees this as a huge advantage but looking at the records of both. They have both the potential and showed an impressive stats so there's no way that we should ignore Crawford or Kava.
Kavaliauskas has to knock out Crawford here for him to have a chance of winning. Crawford is undefeated with a great market in boxing, and I don't think promoters who are building him would just allow him to lose by points, sometimes we have to think that corruption in boxing is happening, those popular boxer will likely to win as they gained more fans and hence more money they will come to them. if ever I will bet on Kavaliauskas (which I really don't see him winning) i would go for a knockout win with a better odds.
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October 23, 2019, 09:54:36 PM |
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As expected Crawford will be the favorite here because I would say that Kavaliauskas could be a get busy fight for him this year. Very obvious move from Arum to also get all fight in-house for him. I do hope that Kavaliauskas though derail Crawford's dream here, LOL. He has a puncher chance here, , or at least he show to fight and not just to get his pay check here because of Arum and make it competitive and give Crawford everything he can handle, similar to what Porter gave Spence during their last fight. I do hope that this one would really be like that recent Porter-spence fight.I agree on what you said here that this fight should really be somewhat entertaining than seeing a very large gap or shall we say a circus fight on here. Don't know how these fights are being arrange but its clear that they just doing it on purpose. Arum do knows how to milk out some more money by these fights. That snake Arum is really good at setting up his prize fighter here. I do hope that Crawford is making good money under Arum because we have seen him exploiting other boxers in the past. Yes, I do hope that it won't turn as a circus fight and we wanted for Kava to be competitive here even if they are on the same stable of fighters of Arum. And even if he is a huge underdog, he should fight, that chin of Crawford hasn't been tested and I wanted some big punchers like him to test it at 147 lbs.
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October 23, 2019, 10:29:50 PM |
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I do hope that Crawford is making good money under Arum because we have seen him exploiting other boxers in the past.
When it comes to minimum purse guarantee, Bud will be the second highest in welterweight after Manny Pacquiao. Boxing is business and each party needs to be aware on everything to avoid being exploited or perhaps the correct term is underpaid. Oscar Dela Hoya was the highest paid fighter during his time with Arum. But Oscar went on with his own promotional company and earned more. Floyd Mayweather Jr was paid good with Arum and was offered his highest purse against then WBO welterweight champion Antonio Margarito. Floyd said no (probably scared of the bigger champion) and wanted to get out of Top Rank. Floyd bailed out paying only $750,000 to Arum. Arum accepted because both parties thought it was the correct value of Floyd. Floyd went on to co-promote his own fights and was the highest paid athlete in years. These shows that sometimes when you are a fighter and you think you are worth more than you need to push and fight for it if necessary. The same thing happened to Connor McGregor. UFC purse are usually very small compared to boxing. Connor learned a lot from Floyd's self-confidence on being very valuable. And Connor successfully was able to apply that by securing an estimated $100 million against Khabib.
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October 23, 2019, 10:53:49 PM |
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Connor learned a lot from Floyd's self-confidence on being very valuable. And Connor successfully was able to apply that by securing an estimated $100 million against Khabib.
People love to see an entertaining fight, either you have a very humble attitude like Manny, or your too confident like Conor and Mayweather but you are showing that you can fight and you can win, that will attract the crowd and because of that crowd, a boxer can get a lot of money. it's actually all about the hype, Conor is hype although he lost that fight against Khabib but manage to make that big amount. Actually I didn't know he make that much since I don't completely follow UFC all the time.
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October 23, 2019, 11:05:00 PM |
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Kavaliauskas has to knock out Crawford here for him to have a chance of winning. Crawford is undefeated with a great market in boxing, and I don't think promoters who are building him would just allow him to lose by points, sometimes we have to think that corruption in boxing is happening, those popular boxer will likely to win as they gained more fans and hence more money they will come to them. if ever I will bet on Kavaliauskas (which I really don't see him winning) i would go for a knockout win with a better odds.
I'm still trying to figure out the strategy of Kava and watching the old videos that he has. I'm still impressed that there are fighters like him that never had a loss before except the legend like Floyd that has not been so unknown and lowkey. I don't want to go further with the discussion about the corruption that happens in the management. That's a different thing and as much as possible let's just keep the thread about between the two fighters.
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October 23, 2019, 11:49:02 PM |
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I don't want to go further with the discussion about the corruption that happens in the management. That's a different thing and as much as possible let's just keep the thread about between the two fighters. There might be some corruption but it will be a never ending discussion if we discuss that. Let us not doubt Kavaliauskas because this guy is a legit fighter, we might have different opinion on fight that reach in decision but this guy has a good knock out percentage as well, he got 17 KOs out of 21 fight, and you can't question KO.
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October 24, 2019, 03:07:09 AM |
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Connor learned a lot from Floyd's self-confidence on being very valuable. And Connor successfully was able to apply that by securing an estimated $100 million against Khabib.
People love to see an entertaining fight, either you have a very humble attitude like Manny, or your too confident like Conor and Mayweather but you are showing that you can fight and you can win, that will attract the crowd and because of that crowd, a boxer can get a lot of money. And we don't have that kind of boxers anymore, the likes of Manny, even in defeat he his humble. Conor and Floyd are different though, they just really open their mouth, although the thing is, they can really back it up. And people go to see and pay for exorbitant ticket prices just to see them lost. Crawford will be good under Arum until he experienced his first lost and his stock going down, but this Kava is hungry for a world title so let's see how it will pan out. If Kava was put to be a punching bag or will derail Crawford ascension to the top of the division and command huge money in his future fights.
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October 24, 2019, 02:21:50 PM |
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Connor learned a lot from Floyd's self-confidence on being very valuable. And Connor successfully was able to apply that by securing an estimated $100 million against Khabib.
People love to see an entertaining fight, either you have a very humble attitude like Manny, or your too confident like Conor and Mayweather but you are showing that you can fight and you can win, that will attract the crowd and because of that crowd, a boxer can get a lot of money. And we don't have that kind of boxers anymore, the likes of Manny, even in defeat he his humble. Conor and Floyd are different though, they just really open their mouth, although the thing is, they can really back it up. And people go to see and pay for exorbitant ticket prices just to see them lost. Crawford will be good under Arum until he experienced his first lost and his stock going down, but this Kava is hungry for a world title so let's see how it will pan out. If Kava was put to be a punching bag or will derail Crawford ascension to the top of the division and command huge money in his future fights. People love to see an entertaining fight but Floyd Mayweather becomes the highest paid athlete in the world for many years even beating soccer superstars paydays. Floyd was many times richer than Pacman. Mayweather is a smart businessman and Pacman undervalued himself by not demanding his price on Arum. I don't see Kavaliauskas beating Crawford. And if ever he scores and upset, I am pretty confident there is rematch in their clause.
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October 24, 2019, 05:02:55 PM |
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I don't want to go further with the discussion about the corruption that happens in the management. That's a different thing and as much as possible let's just keep the thread about between the two fighters. There might be some corruption but it will be a never ending discussion if we discuss that. Let us not doubt Kavaliauskas because this guy is a legit fighter, we might have different opinion on fight that reach in decision but this guy has a good knock out percentage as well, he got 17 KOs out of 21 fight, and you can't question KO. That's why I've said that we should've just avoid those topics and stick to the current fight for this thread. I'm not doubting the guy, that's why I've also said that I'm looking for more videos of him and wanted to watch those. I'm just kind of surprised that I've never known this guy despite of his good stats or perhaps I'm not that updated because I don't go deep with other fighters and just stays on the fighters that are being pushed by the media.
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October 24, 2019, 08:35:37 PM |
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I don't want to go further with the discussion about the corruption that happens in the management. That's a different thing and as much as possible let's just keep the thread about between the two fighters. There might be some corruption but it will be a never ending discussion if we discuss that. Let us not doubt Kavaliauskas because this guy is a legit fighter, we might have different opinion on fight that reach in decision but this guy has a good knock out percentage as well, he got 17 KOs out of 21 fight, and you can't question KO. That's why I've said that we should've just avoid those topics and stick to the current fight for this thread. I'm not doubting the guy, that's why I've also said that I'm looking for more videos of him and wanted to watch those. I'm just kind of surprised that I've never known this guy despite of his good stats or perhaps I'm not that updated because I don't go deep with other fighters and just stays on the fighters that are being pushed by the media. Its normal for most people that they dont pay attention too much to those fighters who are below on ranks so I'm not even surprised that most people would normally look down most of the time with underdogs. Here are some knockdown highlights of Kavaliauskas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P17KnKcXMbc which I do see this guy can really give a fight.
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October 24, 2019, 11:36:08 PM |
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Thanks for the vid, I thought I was watching a slow mo.. lol.. just kidding. But seriously, he has the power but I don't see the speed in this fight, also his defense is not so impressive so this would either be an early knockdown from whoever wins but most likely the champ, so let's see.
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October 25, 2019, 10:57:51 AM |
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Hey thanks for the link. That was a powerful video and I guess others will also have an idea that sometimes it's good not go always with the crowd but instead bet against to them. Well, there's still a lot of time to take a look of what will be the odds during the fight. But seriously, he has the power but I don't see the speed in this fight, also his defense is not so impressive so this would either be an early knockdown from whoever wins but most likely the champ, so let's see.
Those videos were from the past and I think that he has improved a lot this time.
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October 25, 2019, 11:42:01 AM |
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Hey thanks for the link. That was a powerful video and I guess others will also have an idea that sometimes it's good not go always with the crowd but instead bet against to them. Well, there's still a lot of time to take a look of what will be the odds during the fight. That odds will not change I guess, Crawford will still remain as the heavy favorite here. Him and spence are both hype in the boxing world, so sometimes it will result to a overvalued odds betting on them. But seriously, he has the power but I don't see the speed in this fight, also his defense is not so impressive so this would either be an early knockdown from whoever wins but most likely the champ, so let's see.
Those videos were from the past and I think that he has improved a lot this time. I like to see his latest video where we can see he already improve, that was highlights was a combination of his past fights and I saw how powerful he is but I can't say he is a good match with Crawford.
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Hey thanks for the link. That was a powerful video and I guess others will also have an idea that sometimes it's good not go always with the crowd but instead bet against to them. Well, there's still a lot of time to take a look of what will be the odds during the fight. That odds will not change I guess, Crawford will still remain as the heavy favorite here. Him and spence are both hype in the boxing world, so sometimes it will result to a overvalued odds betting on them. But seriously, he has the power but I don't see the speed in this fight, also his defense is not so impressive so this would either be an early knockdown from whoever wins but most likely the champ, so let's see.
Those videos were from the past and I think that he has improved a lot this time. I like to see his latest video where we can see he already improve, that was highlights was a combination of his past fights and I saw how powerful he is but I can't say he is a good match with Crawford. Who do you think a good match for Crawford? I think Spence had a commendable records here take a look, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Errol_Spence_Jr. Also with Terence Crawford, he differs an inch with Spence but based on the review I had, I guess both of them is compatible to fight with each other. Please view his details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Crawford, your opinion is welcome for this analysis.
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Natalim
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October 25, 2019, 12:57:39 PM |
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Champion vs champion gives more entertainment to the fans, so as a fan, I like to see them both fight if possible and if not, they need to fight a legend like Manny Pacquiao. I don't know if the camp of Manny will accept these young fighters as his next opponent but if the fans will be ask, they would surely say yes.
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TravelMug
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October 25, 2019, 01:25:47 PM |
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I guess it's pretty obvious that Crawford and Spence are the best welterweight of today so a match between the two will be consider as a mega fight. What do you mean compatible though? Style makes fight in any combat sports so definitely it will be a good match. But then again, boxing politics are the a hindrance so we might not see them fight until they got old similar to Pacquiao and Mayweather.
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