Bitcoin and kiddie porn

[thirdprize]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/17/police-arrest-hundreds-over-international-child-sexual-abuse-website

You give people privacy, they use it.

[big_daddy]

wait wait 
You are angry because that site is closed?
I hope I've misunderstood your post
There is no mercy for pedophilia!

[Mandoy]

Even without bitcoin and digital currency these pronographic activity especially sexual eploitation among children are already rampant in the dark web. Its just so happen that they use cryptocurrency as a mode of payment and thus cryptocurrency is placed in negative spotlight. This sure will bring again bad image to the cryptocurrency community and will make non crypto users think that cryptocurrency is a dark web money. As long as people do not change whatever currency is available be it digital or fiat, pedophile cases and pornographic activity will still occur.

[DeathAngel]

Sick, depraved people will always find a way to satisfy their disgusting urges. I can guarantee you though that bitcoin used for this kind of shit is going to be a tiny, tiny % of that disgusting market.

The illegal sex market is probably huge worldwide & most of it will be via fiat so don’t start trolling about bitcoin.

[Kyraishi]

I'm sorry. Are there no other ways to purchase these fucked up things, unless you use bitcoin?

They are simply painting Bitcoin, once again in a bad light, making the reference that these acts are only possible due to the services Bitcoin provides, but this is far from the truth...

Just look at the other crypto-currencies out there. Several privacy coins with better privacy then BTC, not to mention the numerous fiat untraceable payment options.

[thirdprize]

wait wait 
You are angry because that site is closed?
I hope I've misunderstood your post
There is no mercy for pedophilia!

Yes, you did misunderstand it.  I was implying that if you give people ways to pay anonymously and they will use it for bad things.  And there is no way of tracing the people doing bad things.  

[gentlemand]

Yes, you did misunderstand it.  I was implying that if you give people ways to pay anonymously and they will use it for bad things.  And there is no way of tracing the people doing bad things.  

And yet this 'anonymous' payment method led straight to their doors with a piddling amount of detective work. It seems a lot of them sent BTC straight from exchange accounts linked to their IDs.

No doubt it has monetised disgusting behaviour in a way that wasn't possible before. It's likely in future it'll put more people like this away.

[thirdprize]

I'm sorry. Are there no other ways to purchase these fucked up things, unless you use bitcoin?

They are simply painting Bitcoin, once again in a bad light, making the reference that these acts are only possible due to the services Bitcoin provides, but this is far from the truth...

Just look at the other crypto-currencies out there. Several privacy coins with better privacy then BTC, not to mention the numerous fiat untraceable payment options.

Get on Tor, buy some bitcoin at an anonymous exchange, put it through a couple of mixers and hey presto.  It certainly makes life easier for the bad guys.  Freedom and privacy are a double edged sword.  Yes you can do great things with them but you can also do bad things as well.  Are we as a community OK with that?

[TheBeardedBaby]

It's the same with the guns. You give people guns, and most of them will protect their homes and do no sh!t but some will rob a bank with it. You can't stop it, the world is full of morons out there and those will find always a way to do their sh!t.
I'm happy they got caught.

 

[big_daddy]

wait wait 
You are angry because that site is closed?
I hope I've misunderstood your post
There is no mercy for pedophilia!

Yes, you did misunderstand it.  I was implying that if you give people ways to pay anonymously and they will use it for bad things.  And there is no way of tracing the people doing bad things.  

well, there is still a massive percentage of $(and other) in cash used for drugs, weapons, prostitution etc.. so, we are talking of a method of payment, and obviously that there will be a percentage of crypto payments as well, there is nothing we can do here to stop it

[gentlemand]

Get on Tor, buy some bitcoin at an anonymous exchange, put it through a couple of mixers and hey presto.  It certainly makes life easier for the bad guys.  

At this stage in time I think you'd have to be more than a little dim to use BTC for anything nefarious at all. Law enforcement aren't going to tell you how good they've become at tracing things and the tiniest slip up on the user's part would be enough to blow their cover.

[Kyraishi]

I'm sorry. Are there no other ways to purchase these fucked up things, unless you use bitcoin?

They are simply painting Bitcoin, once again in a bad light, making the reference that these acts are only possible due to the services Bitcoin provides, but this is far from the truth...

Just look at the other crypto-currencies out there. Several privacy coins with better privacy then BTC, not to mention the numerous fiat untraceable payment options.

Get on Tor, buy some bitcoin at an anonymous exchange, put it through a couple of mixers and hey presto.  It certainly makes life easier for the bad guys.  Freedom and privacy are a double edged sword.  Yes you can do great things with them but you can also do bad things as well.  Are we as a community OK with that?

There's other ways to do this as well, just because something new has a way for other people to abuse it doesn't mean that it's necessary bad.

Look at stuff like fast food, new phones and technology, etc. They all have a bad side to them, and just because a small minority is able to utilise this side, does this mean phones, and laptops should be banned?

Also, I'm still under the impression that it would be much safer to use coins like XMR and Dash. Isn't it?

[gentlemand]

Also, I'm still under the impression that it would be much safer to use coins like XMR and Dash. Isn't it?

I definitely wouldn't trust Dash with proper anonymity. XMR is a better candidate. It's revealing that its use hasn't really exploded in that area. Just goes to show that even scum prize convenience above safety.

[milani]

wait wait 
You are angry because that site is closed?
I hope I've misunderstood your post
There is no mercy for pedophilia!

Yes, you did misunderstand it.  I was implying that if you give people ways to pay anonymously and they will use it for bad things.  And there is no way of tracing the people doing bad things.  

You know, I am absolutely outraged by the facts, where children are used in such a way... but you know, this topic is alive for a long-long period of time. Kiddie porn has not appeared with the anonymous way of payments, as well it has not appeared because of the creation of the cryptocurrency or blockchain. Such kind of people also use cash for this, or some other types of payments that are too hard to search or to prove. the problem is not in the anonymous coins, but in not health peoples' heads. I do not think that in case the crypto will be forbidden (just imagine), the kiddie porn will disappear at once. it is a pity, but it is a fact.

[thirdprize]

wait wait 
You are angry because that site is closed?
I hope I've misunderstood your post
There is no mercy for pedophilia!

Yes, you did misunderstand it.  I was implying that if you give people ways to pay anonymously and they will use it for bad things.  And there is no way of tracing the people doing bad things.  

You know, I am absolutely outraged by the facts, where children are used in such a way... but you know, this topic is alive for a long-long period of time. Kiddie porn has not appeared with the anonymous way of payments, as well it has not appeared because of the creation of the cryptocurrency or blockchain. Such kind of people also use cash for this, or some other types of payments that are too hard to search or to prove. the problem is not in the anonymous coins, but in not health peoples' heads. I do not think that in case the crypto will be forbidden (just imagine), the kiddie porn will disappear at once. it is a pity, but it is a fact.

But people are going to read these stories and see bitcoin. 

[Upgate]

Even without bitcoin and digital currency these pronographic activity especially sexual eploitation among children are already rampant in the dark web. Its just so happen that they use cryptocurrency as a mode of payment and thus cryptocurrency is placed in negative spotlight. This sure will bring again bad image to the cryptocurrency community and will make non crypto users think that cryptocurrency is a dark web money. As long as people do not change whatever currency is available be it digital or fiat, pedophile cases and pornographic activity will still occur.

Clowns are very fast to blame bitcoin on any little thing that happens, when the bitcoin start that it's has become the major problem of the world we see all this problem even before the turn of this millennium that's far before bitcoin came in

[goto22]

Unfortunately, this was a big issue long before Bitcoin was created. These people will use anything at their disposal, be it BTC or USD. At least something is being done about it.

[CryptoBry]

There is no place for child pornography anywhere and those who profited from this business should be jailed and be not allowed to freely roam in the outside world again...until they are maybe 80 years and by then there is no more libido left to do anything unworthy like exploiting innocent children for the porn industry.

Sad that the main operator South Korean named Jong Woo Son is just a young guy at 23; had he chosen to just be involved with cryptocurrency he can't be facing the possibility of being incarcerated for many years.  I am sure he is also a very talented young man with a good future ahead if not for this child pornography business. Anyway, good luck to him and I hope he can be a changed man by the time he is back from prison.

Now, it must be emphasized that authorities actually got aided by the open Bitcoin transactions on the ledgers in finding out the culprit. So in this case, Bitcoin has become a tracking tool instead of just saying that it has been utilized for illegal transactions. This is to make the story fair and straight. Cryptocurrency (except maybe private coins) can be an ally to those working against illegal marketplace.

This is a better article for this news: https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-authorities-analyze-bitcoin-transactions-to-shut-down-child-porn-ring

[gunhell16]

There is no mercy for pedophilia!

I hate those people who uses children for the urge of their lust. This is not good and not forgiven. I hope they will never be a parent, they don't deserve it.
About this pornography! there are videos over the internet not just pedophiles must be stopped. there are unwanted videos (scandal) that must also be stopped.

[Jating]

You give people privacy, they use it.

And then they are getting caught by the authorities one by one. And then we have fiat being used by cyber criminals as well. So it's going to cyclical, but I wouldn't call it a flaw, in the first place it was not design by Satoshi to be exploited as such.

I guess this is just part and parcel of bitcoin, others might find in very useful as mode of payment, store of value and investments assets. But on the other hands, bad actors had bad intent. But we can't really blame it to bitcoin, blame the system that we have.