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October 18, 2019, 07:25:31 PM
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well, i dont believe that .
i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.
Best bull run signal i can hear off from the forum itself is the halving due the very next year. I think that is practically a good indication of bull run as the supply would squeeze down if such a thing happens while demand will still be aggressive and anyone in the world can tell that in such a situation prices will tend to rise and mathematically there is no explanation as to that people are finding some estimated valuation based on stock to flow models. Let's see what happens.
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October 18, 2019, 09:39:03 PM
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I understand your desperation about of the market since it's over a year there is still no bull run but instead the market keep on dropping last year. Luckily this year after almost hitting the $3500 bottom, it begun to grow up until now. But the correction try to pull it back to its normal range.

You should trust the market because the halving of Bitcoin is almost coming next year.

to be honest, i am not frustated or something like that because what happen on market.
i just , well lets say make this clear.
because , i totaly confused about many many and many thread about bull run , u know something like prediction from nowhere.because u know exactly market goes with something logical.
"when bull run,when lambo,when moon" even go to the mountain is quite enough for now.

Well, you won't get frustrated or something if you don't expect too much in the market like you have to believe every story they feed you. Find a reliable sources if you really want to know more about of the market. If you want to know about Bitcoin price, there's a thread for BTC price wall, although I don't know much about of the altcoin prediction wall but there are existing groups that you can find specifically for altcoins only but you have to search them on the internet.

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October 18, 2019, 09:54:40 PM
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We do not know the next trend of  the market and cryptocurrency has high volatility.   So for sure, no one can tell when the next trend of bulls will appear though in technical analysis, they can see pattern and hint by reading the chart.  You can try to visit tradingviews to check about the current analysis of the market and understand if there will be an upcoming bull run or not and the reason behind it by explaining the trend on the chart.
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October 18, 2019, 10:10:12 PM
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well, i dont believe that .
i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.
You describe it very precisely those that believe that a bull market is coming at the end of the year are not really basing their predictions on the reality of the market but on wishful thinking.

It seems there were many investors which did not took advantage of the correction on the bitcoin price and now are losing even more when they compare their altcoins to bitcoin, they do not want to accept they made a mistake and the only way this changes is with a bull run.
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October 18, 2019, 10:27:05 PM
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even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
Yes for me. Most of them are careless, like not thinking about consequences from their action(common with some newbies entering in crypto without understanding how crypto works). But for those big whales or big time people investing in crypto, for sure they are aware unless they are too much rich just to invest in anything that they don't know, like gambling or whatsoever (because they have lot of money, so whatever they do, does not matter anymore to them).
About the bull run, it's because of the block halving for me, not every end of the year.

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October 18, 2019, 10:56:08 PM
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We do not know the next trend of  the market and cryptocurrency has high volatility.   So for sure, no one can tell when the next trend of bulls will appear though in technical analysis, they can see pattern and hint by reading the chart.  You can try to visit tradingviews to check about the current analysis of the market and understand if there will be an upcoming bull run or not and the reason behind it by explaining the trend on the chart.
It will be hard for you if you just depend on any analysis, for you to understand the market you should know how to read the trend and know where to wait the bull. The exact time for the next bull run is still unknown, but it will happen because the bear market is over and if you have bitcoin you will be good. Wait patiently its hard to recover from a big loss, we know this.
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October 18, 2019, 11:23:14 PM
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Because of what happened last 2017 we thought the history will repeat itself so many investors are hoping for another bull run since we are in the 3rd quarter of this year.

Learn to analyze the market and dont depend on others speculation, no one can accurately say the next thing for crypto. Bitcoin halving would be next year, few months to go and we'll see if will create an impact to crypto as a whole.

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October 18, 2019, 11:23:47 PM
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Huge price spikes are not the only indicators of bull markets. Several years of smaller, but consistent annual growth is a bull market too. It may not be as exciting, but these bubbles aren't benefiting anyone except for those lucky enough to time the top and those manipulating the price in the first place.

In my opinion, the cycle repeats with larger and larger populations. There were people saying this exact same thing in 2013/2014/2015 that was a huge crash, it's all over. but I started buying around then, and so I still feel good about today's prices. I guarantee there are still people out there who haven't heard of Bitcoin or Cryptos, or at least don't know what the word refers to. thereby, There will be another bubble. even without a bubble the fact that the price is in anything other than freefall means that people are buying more and more Cryptos every day.
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October 21, 2019, 05:44:45 AM
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Market movements are unpredictable many are waiting for another cryptocurrencies 2017 like bull run to eagerly unload their crypto assets specially those who bought at all time high. Most people that time don't realize the consequences of their actions and they are blinded by their expected potential income in short term but later shocked due to markets opposite direction and didn't recover as they expected.
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October 21, 2019, 09:20:35 AM
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well, i dont believe that .
i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ?
maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment.
just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ?
or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.

Most of the time, a predicted bull run is really a wishful thinking. People are just too eager for their Bitcoin value to increase rapidly. They want to make money as quick as possible. But in all fairness, there are also times when the bull run which is anticipated or happening is something that has a sound fundamentals basis. Bitcoin halving for example is one reason for that. Or a large country opening its doors for crypto payments. These are reasons that might cause a bull run. 
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October 21, 2019, 09:55:14 AM
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We can't blame people for investing a huge amount and for expecting for the bull market because it already happened before. Most crypto lovers are actually positively expecting for the best market situation by the end of the year. Bitcoin history could repeat itself so no matter how many negative speculations may appear, investors and whales would still expect for the bull run and we can't say that it's just wishful thinking and that it's impossible to happen because Bitcoin has proven us a lot.
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October 21, 2019, 09:57:22 AM
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Market movements are unpredictable many are waiting for another cryptocurrencies 2017 like bull run to eagerly unload their crypto assets specially those who bought at all time high. Most people that time don't realize the consequences of their actions and they are blinded by their expected potential income in short term but later shocked due to markets opposite direction and didn't recover as they expected.
it's true that cryptocurrency is very difficult to predict but you can still know a bit about where the price is going because cryptocurrency prices will have price movements up and down so when prices have fallen very deep surely prices will bounce back and can recover again just need support from traders then everything can happen.

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October 21, 2019, 10:02:35 AM
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We have to wait for a big news that would likely to create a hype.
Whales are smart, they would not invest to move the price if they will enjoy enjoy a good profit in just a short period of time.

That's what we are looking for, we can't just rely to the people as whales until now are still in control of the market.
In short, without them moving the price, we will not see a bull run or we might see but it will take time.

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October 21, 2019, 10:40:04 AM
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bull run in "altcoin" market is wishful thinking because it has never happened in the past 10 years to want to start now. the reality is that we only have pumping times which people mistake with a bull run and lose money because of that wishful and wrong thinking.

OP is correct, whales and investors will put their money into shitcoins but they won't do it in most of the existing coins. it is always in the newer coins and only those that they can pump and more importantly it will be fo a short time during their pumps not later when it was over!

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October 21, 2019, 11:03:16 AM
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well, i dont believe that .

we all hope that mass adoption will come, but I do not believe in it as well. There were so much signals during the past several years, but none of them has worked. We are still falling and nobody knows when it is going to end.
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October 21, 2019, 11:11:43 AM
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Big investors also see the momentum to get big profits from altcoin, although in the end they will leave and return to btc. At least every moment that occurs does not make prices go down brutally.

Prices will still be supported by traders who are loyal to the coin, even though the price wave is gradually decreasing. That's where whales will think again to be involved or not at all. Market logic still refers to the logic of earnings, this is not just wishful thinking.
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October 21, 2019, 11:35:13 AM
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You will see after the bitcoin halving which will happen next year, whether the bull run's claimed is just a wishful thinking or an imagination of the investors. anyway, where have you been since the 2017 bull run? you could have witness the unusual rised of the price of bitcoin.
Yes, we will wait for Halving's moment later, if after Halving nothing happens, the price of Crypto is still what it is today, then maybe Bullrun is a wishful thinking. I believe Bullrun will occur a year after Halving Bitcoin happened, it means it will happen in 2021.

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October 21, 2019, 12:17:26 PM
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You will see after the bitcoin halving which will happen next year, whether the bull run's claimed is just a wishful thinking or an imagination of the investors. anyway, where have you been since the 2017 bull run? you could have witness the unusual rised of the price of bitcoin.
Yes, we will wait for Halving's moment later, if after Halving nothing happens, the price of Crypto is still what it is today, then maybe Bullrun is a wishful thinking. I believe Bullrun will occur a year after Halving Bitcoin happened, it means it will happen in 2021.
There's no certain point in that particular information, we will see things after the halving if there's  any big impact or it won't do anything to the current value and everything is just  a  wishful thinking that won't make any difference from the whole economy of crypto currency.

2017 bull run is what everyone's wanted to witness again, and with expectations, there's a big chance that it will lift and make a pumped just hold and wait.


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October 21, 2019, 12:26:47 PM
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Bull run is real but the problem is we don't know when it will come.
The fact that people are holding and they even invented the word "HODL", this means they believe a bull run will come at the right time and they will not expect it to happen if it did not happen int he past.

The history will repeat itself, that's what I believe so I am also holding until now, I go with the whales as they have the power to dictate the market.

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October 21, 2019, 02:16:07 PM
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Actually, all of us are now wishing for another bull run but it seems it might not happen at the end of this year 2019. So, just expect that the bull run comes up after the bitcoin halving and I guess it's around the year 2021. I know some of are always talk about the bull run but still, we do not know when it will happen and but just be prepared if ever there will be a bull run so you will also earn a big profit.

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