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October 30, 2019, 06:33:36 PM |
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well, i dont believe that . i just think with my logic, how people, or whales or big investor or whatever their name, will put their money to the crypto market easily without think first, or even if they think first, did they will think about consequence from their action ? maybe mass sell will come from another side who have been waiting that moment. just because end of the year will come and u think bull will comes too ? or someone can explain me about bull run signal or whatever u call that, because i totaly think that just no more than wishfull think.
yep because there's a lot of types of whales and aside of good whales which the real intention is to make improvements in the market. there are some bad as well , and indeed they are big problem here in crypto world .and for me the most annoying investors because of their greediness . They are the real reason why market growth always back flip after the bump! They are very selfish because they don't gives an opportunity for some investors who really need money. Are you sure that there are whales that concerns about the market aside from profiting?lol there is no such thing because all of them are here just to make money and what will happen in market i their concern because they still want to bag more money Never trust their intentions because they don’t have other but to gain and mostly trapping small investors to take their money also and we knew that for long So stop fooling yourself and let’s just go looking for another coins they want to pump for us to gain as well ahahaha, that funny fact . as far i know , whales, just a selfish people.but,basically we also have the same nature , itsn't ? as long we don't get anything loss from every side on market. This market is formed from wishful thinking.
oh really ? as far i try to understand , the market is formed because of the sale and purchase transactions that are absolute , wich means , as long they get what they want, both for investement or for another reason,and that is real, not because of wishful thinking. when many people feel strongly about an improving market it can also lead to positive market sentiment.
this is inversely proportional, it seems . sentiment about market can lead people to take a action , both negative or positive sentiment.
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sayaya17
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October 30, 2019, 07:07:05 PM |
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Actions of the whales will indeed affect for bitcoin price so that it impacts for altcoin price. After the whales throw away their bitcoins, dump is inevitable, what we need to be aware of is when they enter and leave. Because this is an opportunity for traders or small investors. Bullrun signals might be detected when whales arrive or maybe when there is good news about support for crypto, but this is only prediction, precisely the market that determines.
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October 30, 2019, 07:27:27 PM |
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Bull run / wishful think ?
We can hope! Nobody can stop us from hopping! Will it happen or not, time will show. Each side have argument, valid or not depends from perspective, but sides are holding to them! I decided to trust in my judgment, I saw what both sides have to say, my decision is final, bull run is coming! Now people can talk whatever, I made my decision, for better or for worse, I`m here. It will take some time, that will test our patience, like always the strongest will survive. Let others do the talking, read what everyone has to say and make your own decision!
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October 30, 2019, 11:10:27 PM |
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Bull run / wishful think ?
We can hope! Nobody can stop us from hopping! Will it happen or not, time will show. Each side have argument, valid or not depends from perspective, but sides are holding to them! I decided to trust in my judgment, I saw what both sides have to say, my decision is final, bull run is coming! Now people can talk whatever, I made my decision, for better or for worse, I`m here. It will take some time, that will test our patience, like always the strongest will survive. Let others do the talking, read what everyone has to say and make your own decision!
In the long run, you'll learn how to keep yourself detached from all these talks of bull runs and FUDs that affect the market. It's always your own decision that matters and as long as you know what you're doing. There hasn't been a major bull run since the 2017 run but that doesn't mean it can't happen again. Bitcoin has seen a big increase ever since dropping to sub 4k. It's not impossible to make a big run, but as always, trust your own research and not others'.
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October 31, 2019, 09:45:08 AM |
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In the long run, you'll learn how to keep yourself detached from all these talks of bull runs and FUDs that affect the market. It's always your own decision that matters and as long as you know what you're doing. There hasn't been a major bull run since the 2017 run but that doesn't mean it can't happen again. Bitcoin has seen a big increase ever since dropping to sub 4k. It's not impossible to make a big run, but as always, trust your own research and not others'. I`m detached, but I feel a need to be informed about crypto-market, and I like to read what others have to say. Some people are spreading lies and FUD, and looks like we can`t run away from that, I feel sorry for the people who fall on that! I believe that new big increase will happen in upcoming years, next one, or the one after it`s not so important for me. I made my decision as I sad and I`m in it until the end, whatever that end is, moon or bottom. Arguments are on our side, we have more chances for the moon than for bottom!
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November 01, 2019, 08:22:44 AM |
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This market is formed from wishful thinking. when many people feel strongly about an improving market it can also lead to positive market sentiment. the influence on purchasing power can also increase even though the percentage is very small. but just believe, that in this market many people trade and invest in crypto have the hope of seeing bull happening in the future. it's only a matter of time and patience, and everyone who has it kana parties when the bull greets them.
Activities of people is what will determine if there will be bull run or not, because what bull run needs is influx of money into the market cap and without that, there is not going to be any magic bull. We need to do more to be able to invite and attract people to cryptocurrency, so that the adoption rate can increase and once those people understand the main usage of bitcoin, they will surely be creating demand that will make the price value of bitcoin to rise. Bull run is actually not a wishful thinking, but it all still depends on what we do for us to be able to have it here again. If there are no whales or financial institutions to put money in bitcoin for several reason, will there be any time that we will see this surge, so that is what I am saying, we need to be suing bitcoin for us to see any surge.
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November 01, 2019, 09:13:24 AM |
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There are always reasons for cryptocurrencies to fall: Chinese New Year's, exchange hacking, expert statements or something else. And you don't need anything to grow, everything happens in one night. And the news is already being written for this bullrun.
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November 01, 2019, 09:32:36 AM |
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There are always reasons for cryptocurrencies to fall: Chinese New Year's, exchange hacking, expert statements or something else. And you don't need anything to grow, everything happens in one night. And the news is already being written for this bullrun.
People are exaggerating the news or hyping it, that's why the market moves significantly. There's a pump and dump due to FOMO and FUD, it has been normal in the crypto space and we should know its happening so we can do the right action. It's a battle of strategy here, you have to be smart and clever to survive. it could be a bull run or just a wishful thinking, we don't know as we all are just speculating based on our analysis.
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November 01, 2019, 01:23:20 PM |
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There are always reasons for cryptocurrencies to fall: Chinese New Year's, exchange hacking, expert statements or something else. And you don't need anything to grow, everything happens in one night. And the news is already being written for this bullrun.
I remember few years ago when we're heading to Chinese New Year, there's always an impact to the market but these days I don't find that there's a correlation anymore to it. But let's see what will be the impact of it since Xi Jinping has expressed their attention to blockchain. The news are no longer working today. Before it's a yes but it seems that everyone is no longer buying with any news out there. With negative news, yes we can see an effect but with every positive news, the effect would always be minimal.
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November 01, 2019, 02:15:09 PM |
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End of the year means
1. Companies and individuals have to pay taxes in fiat
2. Companies and individuals have to buy gifts (New year Christmas e.t.c..)
3. Companies and individuals have to sell BTC for fiat
4. BTC price will go down
5. Buy some BTC at the end of December.
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Pelunize12
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November 01, 2019, 04:30:14 PM |
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There are always reasons for cryptocurrencies to fall: Chinese New Year's, exchange hacking, expert statements or something else. And you don't need anything to grow, everything happens in one night. And the news is already being written for this bullrun.
if we look at crypto falling history, those are so damn true lol. the reasons are almost same ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) little bit many player in this cryptocurrency will understand about this, they would learn from their mistakes im still learning how market works too. in my opininons, this is just a wishful thinking. we arent in bull altcoins, it would be down again. there is flash news about bitmex hacking too lol
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November 01, 2019, 04:31:17 PM |
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End of the year means
1. Companies and individuals have to pay taxes in fiat
2. Companies and individuals have to buy gifts (New year Christmas e.t.c..)
3. Companies and individuals have to sell BTC for fiat
4. BTC price will go down
5. Buy some BTC at the end of December.
it's still not enough to trigger bullrun. we saw last year, and there isn't even a rise at the moment. but despite all that, I still believe there will be bullrun. but it was not triggered by the end of the year, but by halving bitcoin which will soon begin. halving bitcoin never disappoints, and that's why I'm sure when halving there will be many who buy especially people will buy bitcoin.
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Clement Kaliyar
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November 01, 2019, 06:03:40 PM |
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big players, whales already has a strategy to get a lot of money from a panic trader, because the whale will play dump and pump very well. When they pump and FOMO will happen, this is what the whales are waiting for, taking as much profit as possible. As small players we can only get a small residual profit from whales. Whales will exit the market when the game is over.
If you are really worried about the whales manipulating the market make sure you play safe by going in for the long hold and if that happens no manipulation can affect your profits, there might be manipulation in the market as it is a billion dollar market and you can see these kind of manipulation in every market but if you are caught manipulating then you will be fined in the regulated market and that does not happen in this market and hence you should expect those while investing.
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ashmodeus (OP)
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November 02, 2019, 12:06:43 AM |
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if we look at crypto falling history, those are so damn true lol. the reasons are almost same Cheesy
little bit many player in this cryptocurrency will understand about this, they would learn from their mistakes
im still learning how market works too.
in my opininons, this is just a wishful thinking. we arent in bull altcoins, it would be down again. there is flash news about bitmex hacking too lol
i guess , market works is really simple , when some statement come , the affect of it will creating like suggestion to people/even whales to do a action. or when some events come , its like suggestion too , i mean events like halving of btc or like upgrade on blockchain , or hashrate suddenly down , all of it create a impact to the market.
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November 02, 2019, 04:32:31 AM |
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Having a wishful thinking doesn't come from no where it came from something let say in crypto - news, evidences, graphs, predictions etc. So meaning to say there is something that shows and can be seen as to why WISHFUL THINKING of bull run is happening on people honestly including me.
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BartS
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November 02, 2019, 07:12:18 AM |
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Investors are doing everything they can to make the market to go up and we are seeing this in the current growth of bitcoin but the rest of the market stayed more or less the same and since then the price has been going down.
But I doubt we will see a bull run on the final quarter of this year, the conditions are not there and despite the efforts to try to support cryptocurrencies the market is not ready to go up, and we know that if the market does not go up for some time it will eventually begin to go down as investors get their money out of the market.
I beg to disagree with your points. There will be a bull run in the final quarter of this year because there are conditions for it. And not just the existence of such conditions but also the absence of negative air around Bitcoin and the crypto market. Just recently, china has released a very friendly statement that would contribute a lot of confidence for crypto. Another would be the upcoming halving. That is also a huge contributing factor. Bakkt is also gaining momentum. All these factors are creating the bull run condition. We will have to wait to see who was right but personally I do not care about being right, I care about making profits out of my investments, if I am wrong most of the time but I can still get profits I do not have any problem with that. If you turn out to be right and I am wrong I will have no problem changing my posture and I will become bullish the instant my system tells me there are strong signs of a bull market and this is something not everyone can do since I saw many people that were bullish during 2018 when there were no reasons to be bullish.
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November 02, 2019, 12:28:33 PM |
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Having a wishful thinking doesn't come from no where it came from something let say in crypto - news, evidences, graphs, predictions etc. So meaning to say there is something that shows and can be seen as to why WISHFUL THINKING of bull run is happening on people honestly including me.
Wishful thinking is just like the same as having a prediction or speculation based on the recent news and updates of the market. I could say it is wishful since the halving day is almost coming and we only have two months left before the 2020 and we will surely see new ATH in just a few months.
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ashmodeus (OP)
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November 02, 2019, 04:50:31 PM |
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Wishful thinking is just like the same as having a prediction or speculation based on the recent news and updates of the market.
of course that not. wishful thinking is no more than stupid hope with leaving a fact,analysis and tend to focus on stupid desire. wishful thinking is think without logical reason inside,its totaly same like fairy tale for me. when someone buy a coins/tokens they may think it will become high pump after they buy it , it called wishful think.
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November 02, 2019, 06:24:36 PM |
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The market runs in cycles and sooner or later another green trend will show up. But I hardly believe that altcoins will go so wild as they were back in 2017. BTC dominance is too high and investors are giving up on alts.
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Pelunize12
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November 02, 2019, 09:35:30 PM |
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if we look at crypto falling history, those are so damn true lol. the reasons are almost same Cheesy
little bit many player in this cryptocurrency will understand about this, they would learn from their mistakes
im still learning how market works too.
in my opininons, this is just a wishful thinking. we arent in bull altcoins, it would be down again. there is flash news about bitmex hacking too lol
i guess , market works is really simple , when some statement come , the affect of it will creating like suggestion to people/even whales to do a action. or when some events come , its like suggestion too , i mean events like halving of btc or like upgrade on blockchain , or hashrate suddenly down , all of it create a impact to the market. make sense, it looks like simple if we use long term view as you said, but in the short term doesnt there are many good news in crypto, those are such as statement. next halving is near too about half year again, this is event. those two thing can trigger bitcoin price to increase, the bull run would come but not in the near future. still need time, mate
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