Signature Campaigns causing lifeless posts in Gambling section

[PrimeNumber7]

That kind of posts happens when a signature campaign requires x amount of post in the gambling section whereas these users don't even know what gambling is, posting nonsense just for the requirements.
So if you don't know what to post in the gambling section, just don't participate in signature campaigns that requires it.

When the majority of signature campaigns require posts in the same specific section, people will post in that section just to be seen as someone who frequently posts in that section to get chosen for the campaign.

The only way to address this problem is to put pressure on campaign managers to not require posts in specific sections.

[malevolent]

Also, the managers review the post at the end of the week. I believe boss @Coolcryptovator, who is new in this space, would give the best impression about his ability at the "counting day."

Reviewing posts once a week doesn't cut it, campaign managers should be doing this every day, dozens of participants of a single signature campaign can post enough shitposts in a single week to be annoyingly noticeable.

[sheenshane]

They will force to post in the gambling section even though they don't have enough knowledge on it, just because of reaching the weekly quota that eligible for them to get reward in a week. Almost flooding of spam and redundant replies of these two boards the gambling and gambling discussion in a single signature campaign.

You can try reporting them, but I'm not sure if the mods are gonna take action or simply discard our reports, which affect our report score.

This.
This is the right way we can help our managers by the simple clicking "report to moderator". If that is extremely irrelevant to the topic.

[The Cryptovator]

Guys thanks for bring it on my attention and thanks to everyone for input their opinions, of course I will take appropriate action end of week (tomorrow). Kick out someone on middle if campaign would not wise decision. And I can't PM them about their posting behaviour for each post. I can take action only end of week. Of course I am visiting every member profile and post history occasionally. I am not just waiting for end of week. I have to check if they are wearing signature and related stuff and posting history. Making spam post after accepted couldn't prevent, that's why company hire manager to monitor them and take action.

I have been always work against scam and spam, so I won't make spam by signature which is manage by me. Just with single post we can't judge people about his whole profile. I didn't accept anyone who had not made post on gambling. If they spamming after accept then I have right to remove anyone without any explanation.  Those company paying just for posting on forum so they might have some minimum requirements. Making 5 post wouldn't very difficult for anyone who even occasionally posting there. Anyone who will not able to fill weekly requirements will cause remove. So spammer also will be remove.

Regarding concerns about gambling section, it will never end even I stop them to posting on gambling section. Honestly more than 80% post on gambling just because of signature campaign. Actually that posts are useless. I have seen previously that kind of thread regarding gambling section but nothing changed.


However, thanks for reporting, that's the way how we could build a decent forum. Also I will encourage to report moderators when you will find such as spam post. Your suggestion will be appreciated always regarding campaign since I am new on that field. Mistakes could happened by anyone so I am not out of that. Thanks once again and I have noticed few more participants and they might removed as well.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

That kind of posts happens when a signature campaign requires x amount of post in the gambling section whereas these users don't even know what gambling is, posting nonsense just for the requirements.

Yep.  I'm not sure which campaigns are currently requiring that, but I know the 777Coin one used to offer a bonus for post in the gambling section.  I suspect that members in such campaigns know about gambling but either don't know how to write in English, don't have anything constructive to say, or are just plain fucking lazy.

They'll restate whatever the original poster said in their post, give some generic response that's barely coherent, and post.

Notice that this happens with every signature campaign and not only in the gambling section.  These idiots just don't give a crap what they're writing about and put in the absolute minimal effort in order to get paid.  Guys like this one, who use the word "waterer" instead of "winner" (at least I think that's what he was going for ther) ought to be summarily banned from their campaigns, as they're clearly shitposting.

Reviewing posts once a week doesn't cut it, campaign managers should be doing this every day, dozens of participants of a single signature campaign can post enough shitposts in a single week to be annoyingly noticeable.

True, but that should be enough such that shitposters aren't paid for their crappy output.  I doubt any campaign manager is going to be checking all of the posts of the participants on a daily basis, and I think that's an unreasonable expectation.

[UserU]

True, but that should be enough such that shitposters aren't paid for their crappy output.  I doubt any campaign manager is going to be checking all of the posts of the participants on a daily basis, and I think that's an unreasonable expectation.

Well, let's just hope more campaign managers voice out their stances against this.

[RapTarX]

True, but that should be enough such that shitposters aren't paid for their crappy output.  I doubt any campaign manager is going to be checking all of the posts of the participants on a daily basis, and I think that's an unreasonable expectation.

It's not possible I guess. Cryptotalk campaign has more than 300 participants and yahoo62278 is unlikely going to check all the post made by the users, not even possible. That's why it's very much important to recruit members who are active without signature. If users are active when they are active in a signature, is likely going to spam everywhere.
Requiring x amount of posts in certain board is a bad idea, but if Campaign manager spend more time when they accept participants, I believe spammer will not be able to get accepted in any campaign.

[hd49728]

I've recently noticed a lot of people posting in the gambling section who are participating in signature campaigns,
that post lifeless stuff which makes no sense and basically just taking words from the topic / thread in random order.

They'll restate whatever the original poster said in their post, give some generic response that's barely coherent, and post.

EXAMPLE :

What I saw from the image is winners and top waterers used more Bitcoin to water over rounds of Wolf.bet's wager contest. It is easily to explain if we look at the growth pace of Wolf.bet site during 2 recent months. Fastly grown recent months, that actually attract more new users and more waterers, that in turn triggered ea h has to use more money to wager to be competitive.

Hi OP,
That post is mine. Honestly, it is my fault, because I posted that one on my phone, and there are something wrong with my phones, which trigger it automatically replace some words by default. I meant after I type wager or wagerer, for example, then when I move to next words, my phone will automatically replace these words with water or waterer, for example.
Honestly, again, when I made that post, I did not check it again and did not notice that typo. I got that issue months ago, and still don't know how to correct it on my phone.

Most of time, whenever I post on my phone, I reread my posts before posting, and after posting to edit if needed, but that time I did not check and forgot to come back to check. I made that one when I cradled my daugther when she slept after got fever. 

I decide to leave that post with its initial version. First of all, it is a typo, and not a serious one. I think readers can still guess what I meant. Secondly, I don't want to spoil initial evidence of that post. Just wait for feedback from the manager.

Anyway, it is my fault by not rechecking the typo after posting. I am thankful to you by bringing it here.
If you look at my post history, I am definitely not a shit poster.
Cheers

[DiamondCardz]

Honestly it's depressing reading posts from a lot of people of all kinds of ranks now. It seems the problem with signature campaigns has only been getting worse in recent years. Now you have many, many Hero Member accounts and Legendary accounts which post completely lifeless things.

Earlier in this thread, I said that the pattern looks something like this:

It’s pretty common. Say for instance the topic is {technology_name} and a recent occurrence to do with it, these people will generally latch onto the name and say things like “{tech_name} is very interesting, it could be very good for bitcoin, I will be watching {tech_name} with interest”.

Here's an example of a thread made in one of the Altcoin sections:




And here's three responses from Hero Members which honestly hurt to read and add very little to any kind of 'discussion' - not that the thread topic really fosters that anyway.




In all of these spammy posts the common theme running through them is that they latch onto some keyword from the OP or title, in this case IEO, and just say generic crap. The first post addresses the topic of the OP but it is clearly pretty low quality and just a combination of vague statements about how IEO is good, I'll be watching what happens with IEO in the future, etc. The second is a pretty poor post, doesn't address the original topic. Third post has the same problem.

Honestly, it's depressing nowadays to go through the forums and see so many crap posts. I think part of the problem is that it seems the Cryptotalk campaign is moderated solely by yahoo? He is a very good campaign manager but I don't think anyone can reasonably be expected to moderate 300+ participants on their own and the relevant sticky thread about signature campaigns does say something to that effect. Another moderator (not necessarily a 'manager' per se) for that campaign should at the very least be brought on - if they can afford to spend whatever they're spending right now, they can afford to pay another person to check posts.

[LTU_btc]

I think that @bL4nkcode have nailed one of the main issue - signature campaigns that requires to make x number of posts in specific boards like gambling. I'm not talking about this user particulary, but I often see people who aren't interested in gambling and don't have knowledge about it posting rubbish there. They are "forced" to do it if they want to get paid. Managers should check where user is posting usually before accepting him to campaign. And I know that best managers like DarkStar, yahoo, Hhampuz are doing it.
Another problem is users who post generic stuff everywhere. It's not that big problem as it was some time ago, but we still can see some spammers accepted to campaigns.
@hd49728, just turn off autocorrect or predictive text on your phone. Voila, issue solved.

[actmyname]

Honestly it's depressing reading posts from a lot of people of all kinds of ranks now. It seems the problem with signature campaigns has only been getting worse in recent years. Now you have many, many Hero Member accounts and Legendary accounts which post completely lifeless things.

Most of the time these are people who have not and never are going to genuinely care about Bitcoin. The other case is that they are bought&sold accounts, so you have a knowledge disparity and the account owners don't know enough to comment deeply on anything bitcoin-related.

In all of these spammy posts the common theme running through them is that they latch onto some keyword from the OP or title, in this case IEO, and just say generic crap. The first post addresses the topic of the OP but it is clearly pretty low quality and just a combination of vague statements about how IEO is good, I'll be watching what happens with IEO in the future, etc. The second is a pretty poor post, doesn't address the original topic. Third post has the same problem.

I call these borderline cases. They are on the edge of being spam but have commented just enough to sneak by. It's like when people are asking empty questions that they don't truly care about.

Example: topic="How to start trading?";reply="Well OP it would be great to have some more details on your trading like how much capital you want and what market you are going to enter, can you answer this?";postNumber=56

Honestly, it's depressing nowadays to go through the forums and see so many crap posts. I think part of the problem is that it seems the Cryptotalk campaign is moderated solely by yahoo?

Partially... but he doesn't accept them: they are automatically registered via YoBit's website, which is why you'll see such crappy posts.

Another moderator (not necessarily a 'manager' per se) for that campaign should at the very least be brought on - if they can afford to spend whatever they're spending right now, they can afford to pay another person to check posts.

If YoBit cared. They launched the campaign several ties w/o a manager and only brought yahoo on board after the campaign started.

[hosseinimr93]

Another moderator (not necessarily a 'manager' per se) for that campaign should at the very least be brought on - if they can afford to spend whatever they're spending right now, they can afford to pay another person to check posts.

If YoBit cared. They launched the campaign several ties w/o a manager and only brought yahoo on board after the campaign started.

Seems that the problem is going to be less severe. Yobit decreased the maximum number of eligible posts to 10 per day. Spammers will likely make fewer posts.
Here is the post made by Yobit account.

Update: limit from now is only 10 posts / day

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

This isn't a news, I remember pointing out similar observation back then when I was creating this thread; [Guide] Factors to consider before joining paid signature campaigns. in this case the users was advising supposedly gamblers (thread audience) not to gamble yet he/she was advertising a gambling platform to the audience. The gambling, Bitcoin and altcoin discussion board are board you should visit often if you intend reading ridiculous replies either out of topic or totally different from what's actually been discussed.

Hardly before you observe or engage in an interactive discussion on the board as most visitors are just there because their campaign requires them to. There are some special threads that take me to the gambling section which I mostly engage in conversation in (e.g Premier discussion thread) as you can have a reasonable argument probably leading to an interaction. This sport related threads are consider offtopic but I prefer them than most of the supposedly gambling related threads which are just host to spams.

[Coyster]

I do not even think it's about being "forced" to post in a certain section, I would blame the fact that some users simply do not want to engage in the conversation, especially those which had been made prior to the time they want to post theirs, they rather would prefer to hurriedly make their post and go over to the next thread.

I love football, and I'm an active gambler and also active in that section, I find it very easy to engage in conversations on those sort of threads in the gambling section, I avoid topics that are not related to "football" in the gambling section, I know I might make a huge blunder if I comment on such topics.
Users should only make posts in sections thats comfortable for them, and on the ones they know they truly can contribute to the discussion.

[rosezionjohn]

The irony of participants applying voluntarily for the campaign after reading all the details and then being "forced" to post in a certain board or comment on topics that he/she is not familiar with  It may be the money that is forcing participants and not the campaign.

[libert19]

..and to think that user is senior member with good merit and activity, has he lost his mind  ??

The irony of participants applying voluntarily for the campaign after reading all the details and then being "forced" to post in a certain board or comment on topics that he/she is not familiar with   It may be the money that is forcing participants and not the campaign.

Campaign is giving money so in sense it's campaign

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The only way to address this problem is to put pressure on campaign managers to not require posts in specific sections.

Or may be give preference to quality.

[Hhampuz]

Nothing will change until theymos completely removes the ability to advertise in your signature space. Talking about it and pointing out issues is nice and all, but if you want actual change then start a petition or something and send the result to theymos, while I doubt he'll ever do that, remove signatures, but it would be a start.

[UserU]

Nothing will change until theymos completely removes the ability to advertise in your signature space. Talking about it and pointing out issues is nice and all, but if you want actual change then start a petition or something and send the result to theymos, while I doubt he'll ever do that, remove signatures, but it would be a start.

I dont think thats possible. Advertising can still come in text and banners, assuming you don't mean removing signature altogether.

[MFahad]

That kind of posts happens when a signature campaign requires x amount of post in the gambling section whereas these users don't even know what gambling is, posting nonsense just for the requirements.
So if you don't know what to post in the gambling section, just don't participate in signature campaigns that requires it.

I will further add that if anyone is not involved in gambling, he should not apply in gambling related signatures because this will only add to spam. How can anyone contribute to the gambling section (other then this site is good and this is bad), when he have no knowledge about the gambling. Maybe that's another reason why gambling discussion thread is more like a trash.

Another problem is that most of the campaigns and the long lasting ones are relate to gambling. I think more than 60% of the campaigns are for the promotion of gambling sites and there is not much choice.

[boltz]

This is the reason I don't spend my time there as you can't find anything good besides a funny chat with someone who loves the same sports like you and this should be worry for Gambling section. Today I've surfed some other threads besides sportsbet who is a funny thread to talk and make your statements about football ( in my case ) and the guys who are searching for scamming betting sites ( all my respect for them ) I couldn't find anything useful.

At least talk about sports and the teams you love and how passionate you are about those sports as this would be the ideal talks in Gambling section in my opinion. Don't trow all the guilt to signature campaigns...its the users who are doing the posts not the campaign...