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Newly seasoned investors really are picking on random coins and just hoping for the best which is really wrong, It really needs proper attention and researches your way into picking the right coin this can not be managed by just brute force alone and you are using your money to brute force in the earning, I guess this is a matter of time for us to help people who are in need and in desperation in learning and earning with cryptocurrency for once this is an example of lost souls that are trying so bad with cryptocurreny.
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October 27, 2019, 04:52:49 AM |
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Newly seasoned investors really are picking on random coins and just hoping for the best which is really wrong, It really needs proper attention and researches your way into picking the right coin this can not be managed by just brute force alone and you are using your money to brute force in the earning, I guess this is a matter of time for us to help people who are in need and in desperation in learning and earning with cryptocurrency for once this is an example of lost souls that are trying so bad with cryptocurreny.
Random picking is not really a good idea, as majority of the coins are not really good and worth to hold at, so be very careful for it. Everyone of us are thankful that we found Bitcoin in our life, so still holding Bitcoin is the best rather than choosing some altcoins without any research thinking and hoping that the value of it will rise someday.
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October 27, 2019, 05:45:07 AM |
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~snip~ If you make more money buying another coin, it doesn't say anything. There are always opportunities to make money with anything, even outside the world of cryptocurrencies. The problem is that you have to tell the truth that Bitcoin SV is not Bitcoin. It doesn't bother me that he wants to buy it more Bitcoin SV. It just bothers me that he is spreading false information to get others to keep raising the price of his shit coin.
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October 27, 2019, 06:02:47 AM |
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The confusion between Bitcoin SV is at least not as bad as Bitcoin Cash. Most people will get curious what the SV means after Bitcoin and they will do their research.
Bitcoin cash sounds more like it's actually Bitcoin. There are certain debit or credit cards out there which have the term Cash after them and they are a different form of payment. Because of this is why many people assumed that Bitcoin cash is just a different form of the real Bitcoin itself. It's why at the beginning it was called BCash instead of Bitcoin Cash primarily with exchanges to prevent confusion.
There were also people who went to Bitcoin.com and ended up buying BCH instead of BTC because it was the primarily listed option.
That twitter post might seem like nothing more than a troll post to get followers, these days people post anything just to get enough likes and followers and shouldn't be taken seriously.
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October 27, 2019, 06:11:57 AM |
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Of course, the best way to promote any coin is to use Bitcoin, every altcoins life depends on Bitcoin if you will promote your project, that it is very similar to Bitcoin you have a good chance to get attention, but that attention will only come from newbies who are all looking for something similar to Bitcoin in it's progress.
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October 27, 2019, 06:46:39 AM |
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in the end it is the user's responsibility to do extensive research about the thing they are buying. for example when you are buying a phone you just don't go to a flee market, close your eyes and pick the first thing you encounter. instead you read some online reviewed, check out the features, learn how to detect fake ones made by the Chinese forging the brand name,... it is the same with bitcoin too! they have to do some research and see how to detect fake shitcons that are forging the bitcoin brand.
The thing is every coin floating around the markets these days is shitcoin only. If you look at it closely then you would see that not only are these shitcoins having fake pumps and dumps but also they are really having no goals no companies actually working on any developments. I don't even know a single Altcoins which went on to do everything what was promised by them at the time of their initial offerings.
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October 27, 2019, 06:47:44 AM |
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in the end it is the user's responsibility to do extensive research about the thing they are buying. for example when you are buying a phone you just don't go to a flee market, close your eyes and pick the first thing you encounter. instead you read some online reviewed, check out the features, learn how to detect fake ones made by the Chinese forging the brand name,... it is the same with bitcoin too! they have to do some research and see how to detect fake shitcons that are forging the bitcoin brand.
As investors it is indeed our responsibility to know what we are investing into to avoid getting scammed. With today's popularity of bitcoin, scammers are also at large and they most target newbies because of this scenarios, newbies tend to invest without really researching on the thing he is about to invest to most especially if the person who introduced it to them promised them big returns. And because of this as well, bitcoin has come to a bad light and was tagged as scam because of people investing with wrong people and later on realized that what they invest into is not what they are expecting.
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October 27, 2019, 06:53:47 AM |
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Wooahhh, that's crazy! HAHAHA! Well at least he doubled the quantity though not with bitcoin. Kidding aside, I don't know if that user was aware that bitcoin is different from BSV while that Pham took advantage. I wonder what will be his reaction if he found out BSV is not bitcoin. Perhaps by now someone enlighten him from what he did.
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if this is indeed reality and can get a lot of profit like that is already extraordinary, because at this time a lot of traders are trapped and do not know what they want to buy because it might also be affected by market conditions that are stuck do not have good price movements anymore so it is difficult to can get that much profit in conditions like this.
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October 27, 2019, 07:29:24 AM |
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Wooahhh, that's crazy! HAHAHA! Well at least he doubled the quantity though not with bitcoin. Kidding aside, I don't know if that user was aware that bitcoin is different from BSV while that Pham took advantage. I wonder what will be his reaction if he found out BSV is not bitcoin. Perhaps by now someone enlighten him from what he did. I guess his not, base on what reaction he give on the twitter his thinking that BSV and BTC is the same and he want to have it more target 30 Btc but he is only holding BSV . But still its profit so there is no issue if what currency it is as long as he earn from it.
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October 27, 2019, 08:54:35 AM |
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Looks to me, like you just upset his shitcoin performed better than your shitcoin. There are like 17 or more coins that kept the bitcoin in their name, technically it is not incorrect to call any of them bitcoin for shorthand. It seems the community should have copyrighted the word bitcoin, if you wanted to own it. But the dev team aka blockstream failed to do so. Someone call Greg Maxwell at home and tell him, he screwed up. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) If you believe Bitcoin is a shitcoin why are you in this forum? I believe you have a hidden agenda and that's why you discredit Bitcoin, but honestly, the people who are going to make the most money in the long run, are going to be the ones who do their own research, realizing that the other coins are just scams.
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October 27, 2019, 09:09:21 AM |
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it is the same with bitcoin too! they have to do some research and see how to detect fake shitcons that are forging the bitcoin brand.
I doubt whether he is playing dumb, anyone investing in the market will learn about the different coins in the market and if he think that some fork coin is the real bitcoin then he is also propagating the same agenda to prove to others what he holds is the real bitcoin.
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October 27, 2019, 09:54:42 AM Last edit: October 27, 2019, 10:23:57 AM by franky1 |
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trying to fight the adverts of which chain is bitcoin is a war no one can win. because as soon as you think you have, someone else forks and makes bitcoin xyz or bitcoinpaper or bitcoinmeme and it starts all over again
instead the most sensible and smart war to battle is to let people know that bitcoin analogy is like dollar there are many dollars(canadian, zimbabwee, australian) but the main one is cores(US dollar)
just shouting bitcoinxxx aint bitcoin is exactly like saying australians dont use dollars(no win argument thats flawed)
these bitcoin forks are from a technical point bitcoin forks because they all have satoshis genesis in them bitcoins # for block1 is 00000000839a8e6886ab5951d76f411475428afc90947ee320161bbf18eb6048 so from a technical point litecoin is not a bitcoin fork litecoins # for block1 is 80ca095ed10b02e53d769eb6eaf92cd04e9e0759e5be4a8477b42911ba49c78f
so in no way can a true altcoin be a bitcoin. meaning litecoin would be a 'pound' or a 'yen' but not a dollar take bitcoinPlus this is a good xample of a coin that has no satoshi genesis block#1: 000004abe215ffa766d43c64be31d187c353186163bb11e860ad3ea2c70d8cb9 (year: 2015) so both ecomonical level and technical level is not a 'bitcoin' even though the brand says it however the bitcoin forks that include the satoshi genesis would be a harder argument to fight
so just to make the argument simple to fight once you make it common knowledge that there is more than one 'dollar' currency in the world people stop thinking they are getting a great deal buying canadian and thinking its american. but instead know to expect there are canadian, australian, american and find the one right for them when they want to buy the american dollar thus less headaches and less battle and getting straight to the point of helping people become more observant
however if you keep saying 'there is only one bitcoin' people will get easily fooled thinking all the forks and brand copies are the same thing
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October 27, 2019, 12:40:11 PM |
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Looks to me, like you just upset his shitcoin performed better than your shitcoin. There are like 17 or more coins that kept the bitcoin in their name, technically it is not incorrect to call any of them bitcoin for shorthand. It seems the community should have copyrighted the word bitcoin, if you wanted to own it. But the dev team aka blockstream failed to do so. Someone call Greg Maxwell at home and tell him, he screwed up. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) If you believe Bitcoin is a shitcoin why are you in this forum? I believe you have a hidden agenda and that's why you discredit Bitcoin, but honestly, the people who are going to make the most money in the long run, are going to be the ones who do their own research, realizing that the other coins are just scams. Scroll up a bit and you will see that these shitcoins have a army of trolls that are spreading FUD to confuse people. This forum are not immune to these people and their hidden agendas. You can report people if they openly scam people, but these guys have perfected the art to sell snake oil to people and promising that it would cure cancer. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Just let them do their thing and dig a whole for themselves, because they are eventually going to fall into the hole that they are digging for other people. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Newly seasoned investors really are picking on random coins and just hoping for the best which is really wrong, It really needs proper attention and researches your way into picking the right coin this can not be managed by just brute force alone and you are using your money to brute force in the earning, I guess this is a matter of time for us to help people who are in need and in desperation in learning and earning with cryptocurrency for once this is an example of lost souls that are trying so bad with cryptocurreny.
What does this even mean?? You've posted something which isn't really relevant to the thread, I assume for your signature campaign. This thread isn't about 'picking random coins', the thread is about someone being mis-sold on what Bitcoin SV is by a member of the BSV team - it's a classic tactic of the people involved with BSV to claim that it is simply Bitcoin. In reality, it's not. (you can argue that it is as it is a direct fork off the main chain, but IMO, by definition, the fact it is not the most recognized chain means that it is not the 'true' Bitcoin).
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Or people are not just reading correctly what the post - tweet meant? the way i perceive it is that the persons intention was to own one btc by the end of the year but for some reason he was introduce to bsv which is worth 15 btc, and his next goal is 30 btc if the much anticipated bull run occur by year end, this is my interpretation of the above tweet, i don't think this person is mistaken btc to bsv at all, to me he seem to know exactly what he is saying, after all btc can be acquire using other coins not necessary btc. The problem is this person says that he already has 15 Bitcoin and the other goal is to have 30 Bitcoin, what he actually has is not BTC but BSV. This person clearly doesn't quite understand that. He probably said it because he thinks it's all the same. Bitcoin cash Bitcoin SV newbies think that it's one big happy family. Like when you're trying to decide between a Bentley and a Bugatti. Both owned by Volkswagen, both known for quality. Buying SV instead of Bitcoin is buying a cheap knockoff made by a megalomaniac and a liar.
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October 27, 2019, 06:26:47 PM |
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Newly seasoned investors really are picking on random coins and just hoping for the best which is really wrong, It really needs proper attention and researches your way into picking the right coin this can not be managed by just brute force alone and you are using your money to brute force in the earning, I guess this is a matter of time for us to help people who are in need and in desperation in learning and earning with cryptocurrency for once this is an example of lost souls that are trying so bad with cryptocurreny.
What does this even mean?? You've posted something which isn't really relevant to the thread, I assume for your signature campaign. This thread isn't about 'picking random coins', the thread is about someone being mis-sold on what Bitcoin SV is by a member of the BSV team - it's a classic tactic of the people involved with BSV to claim that it is simply Bitcoin. In reality, it's not. (you can argue that it is as it is a direct fork off the main chain, but IMO, by definition, the fact it is not the most recognized chain means that it is not the 'true' Bitcoin). I don't see it as irrelevant to the topic. Because clearly the person who got decieved just believe what he has been told. For me it also looks like a random picking but with a help of another person's opinion. If the person isn't just random picking his investment then he would know the difference in BSV and BTC because he have done his research.
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trying to fight the adverts of which chain is bitcoin is a war no one can win. because as soon as you think you have, someone else forks and makes bitcoin xyz or bitcoinpaper or bitcoinmeme and it starts all over again
instead the most sensible and smart war to battle is to let people know that bitcoin analogy is like dollar there are many dollars(canadian, zimbabwee, australian) but the main one is cores(US dollar)
Any shitcoin can call itself "Bitcoin", like shit owners who picked shit from the ground can call them "diamonds". But it will never be the real thing. Have the name, have the ticker, there's only one Bitcoin that reached consensus.
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October 28, 2019, 10:48:40 AM |
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Hahaha! Scammed. But on a serious note, this is what happens when trolls/liars/propagandists reach the the people who are early on their journey. It's YOUR responsibility to give them the truth, and put them on the correct path. https://twitter.com/andrespollan/status/1185455536084541441 I truly appreciate Pham. My goal was to acquire 1 $BTC by the end of the year, and thanks to you I found out about $BSV, and now own about 15 BitCoin. My new goal is 30 BitCoin by 12/31/2019.
Many people make tweets like that for sponsors and scammed, I hope users see this and do research on the coin system. Profits are not easy to get without rational methods and evidence. The final result depends on the user acting. I hope, there will be no more users who are fooled into the momentary unreal benefits. We need users who understand about the ideals of blockchian and crypto created. not for deceptive acts.
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October 28, 2019, 04:17:42 PM |
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Hahaha! Scammed. But on a serious note, this is what happens when trolls/liars/propagandists reach the people who are early on their journey. It's YOUR responsibility to give them the truth and put them on the correct path. https://twitter.com/andrespollan/status/1185455536084541441 I truly appreciate Pham. My goal was to acquire 1 $BTC by the end of the year, and thanks to you I found out about $BSV, and now own about 15 BitCoin. My new goal is 30 BitCoin by 12/31/2019.
This is proof that we should be aware at all times. Because in this platform or in this world of internet, we do not know who is saying the truth. Because also of this, there are lots of people that are scamming other people just to get money. I recommend to everyone that they should be aware of every decision and step they take especially when they have someone making transaction. I am thankful that in my almost 3 -4 years of making money here, I am earning and not being scammed like it was intentional, maybe I am not being paid in the past in some failed ICO but that is not their fault.
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