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October 22, 2019, 01:27:47 PM
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YoBit is paying people so good posters who might not have been motivated before now are.
Personally I have no problem with that whatsoever, as long as they make good posts.  I don't know Diamondcardz, but I was aware that he's a long-time member and I was suprised to see him back here in the cryptotalk campaign.  Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all.  Assuming he's the original owner of the account, it's great that he's still into crypto after all this time.

OP's list might be the good posters who've recently woken up, but it's not a comprehensive list of all the posters in the cryptotalk campaign who are at least decent members of the forum.  I've been reading a bunch of posts by members in that campaign, and they're not all bad by a long shot.  Definitely better than when Yobit launched its last campaign without a manager--Yahoo62278 is running a tight ship, and Yobit chose correctly when they hired him IMO.

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October 22, 2019, 02:53:35 PM
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Start process, enter info, wait 45 minutes......enter more info....wait again. I was stuck in the fact that I could not do field work or much else since you kind of had to be aware of when you had to start the next step. So I was here and on the car forum A LOT for 6 weeks. So I wore a sig. The moment the project ended and I was not able to make the post count I was booted from the campaign not even a "you need to get back up" just a "thanks for the last few weeks, you're gone"

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IINM, repeated non-performance usually gets you kicked out without warning.

Did you inform the campaign manager back then though? If you did, you could have exited with grace.
Yes, I told them that my post count might drop for a week, possibly 2 till I reworked my schedule. The response was more or less "It's been nice, you're outta here"

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October 22, 2019, 03:09:56 PM
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Yes, I told them that my post count might drop for a week, possibly 2 till I reworked my schedule. The response was more or less "It's been nice, you're outta here"

-Dave

That sucks. On the bright side however, you have one less to worry about since there are so many campaigns out there with better offers.

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October 22, 2019, 04:32:01 PM
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Earned-merits or trust points are not determinant factors for post quality of posters. They are only one of componental factors and they serve as supplementary inclusive factors for poster's quality assessment. Generally, to assess post quality of one user, readers have to consider lots of things:
Earned merit would be at the very top of the list when assessing someone's post quality. Earned merits means more than total merit as a lot of users got free merit for having over a certain amount of activity. In fact, I would think that a lot of users here disregard total amount of merit, and look at how much the user has earned in the last 120 days. Of course, is is combined with taking a look at their post history personally, but is normally the #1 indicator that someone is posting good quality content.

Very well said, it doesn't matter whoever user it is and if he didn't receive any merit since the merit system has been implemented, as long as he is posting good quality stuffs, merits would be on his way. The position in this forum, the green trust, and all of his merits would only come in second.
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October 22, 2019, 05:40:21 PM
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As Welsh has mentioned previously, merit is one of the most important factors to take into account when trying to comprehend whether an account is trustable, reputable, sharing informative posts etc.

Seems you misunderstood @Welsh statement as he never meant merit should be used as a factor for behaviors not relating to the post habbit. Trusting someone just because of their earned merit is stupidity as it might backfired badly like we have recorded in the past with loan defaulters/scammers. Trustability and reputation should be separated from merit earned instead the general activity of the user on the forum is a better criteria.

Although merit earned doesn't tell you all about a users contributions to the forum, it gives you an idea on how visible the contributions of that user has been.

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October 22, 2019, 05:46:46 PM
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As Welsh has mentioned previously, merit is one of the most important factors to take into account when trying to comprehend whether an account is trustable, reputable, sharing informative posts etc.

Seems you misunderstood @Welsh statement as he never meant merit should be used as a factor for behaviors not relating to the post habbit. Trusting someone just because of their earned merit is stupidity as it might backfired badly like we have recorded in the past with loan defaulters/scammers. Trustability and reputation should be separated from merit earned instead the general activity of the user on the forum is a better criteria.

Although merit earned doesn't tell you all about a users contributions to the forum, it gives you an idea on how visible the contributions of that user has been.

"merit is one of the most important factors" I wanted to somewhat put emphasis on this part only. As Welsh has said "Earned merit would be at the very top of the list when assessing someone's post quality." which I definitely agree on. While merit is not the sole factor to decide whether a person is trustworthy or not, it is definitely a crucial factor in comparison to either when the user has registered or their post account. In my opinion, the only thing that outvalues the merit in this context is the trust.
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Earned-merits or trust points are not determinant factors for post quality of posters. They are only one of componental factors and they serve as supplementary inclusive factors for poster's quality assessment. Generally, to assess post quality of one user, readers have to consider lots of things:
Earned merit would be at the very top of the list when assessing someone's post quality. Earned merits means more than total merit as a lot of users got free merit for having over a certain amount of activity. In fact, I would think that a lot of users here disregard total amount of merit, and look at how much the user has earned in the last 120 days. Of course, is is combined with taking a look at their post history personally, but is normally the #1 indicator that someone is posting good quality content.
I agree merit is one of the greatest proof that a forum member is a good quality poster.
People wouldn't just simple give out merit unless they find your post helpfull and it is a quality post so having a high merit shows that you are indeed a good contributor to the forum (unless it is from cheating like buying merits).

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@Deathwing was a big gain for us.

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October 22, 2019, 08:17:31 PM
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I see some good members in Cryptotalk campaign. But when there are so many spammers with Cryptotalk signature, these good members just become less visible. I noticed that sometimes I just skip posts written by Cryptotalk participants and no matter who exactly wrote it, I just have feeling that there won't be anything wortwhile to read.
I don't want to talk about these users, but more in general - if member was inactive before Cryptotalk campaign, probably it means that they are here just for money because they aren't motivated to post without paid signature. But hell, if they are good members of community and making contributions, I don't care about it.

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I wonder that how many eligible participants of Cryptotalk's campaign made 20 posts on daily over continuous days (or nearly 20 posts) without being banned or kicked out by yahoo62278?

From what OP raised, I guess there are not many of them were eligible with 20 posts during days in-a-row, before the new daily limitation came (at 10).
If there are figures to prove this theory, I think it will be good that good posters who joined Cryptotalk actually maintained their good posts with their self-limitations on max posts they usually made daily. It is understandable if their total daily posts after joining Cryptotalk increased a little bit, but it is fine if it does not rocket.

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October 23, 2019, 04:36:55 AM
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Having the same circumstances as DiamondCardz

I didn’t come back because of Yobit, though, I came back and just happened to see its signature campaign.
I stop for almost 8 months because of personal problems that caused me anxiety, Part of the reason is the market fall that caused me to be broke up, That's why I decided to take a rest on cryptocurrency and start to build up my confidence to trade again.

I've regained my trust in the market after the pump. That's the start I start on spectating on cryptocurrency again.

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I wonder that how many eligible participants of Cryptotalk's campaign made 20 posts on daily over continuous days (or nearly 20 posts) without being banned or kicked out by yahoo62278?

Two weeks ago there were 4 people who managed to do that, don't remember who they were so can't check if they got banned.

...there are only 5 people who have managed to get over 140posts in the last seven days. And I lost another bet, not all five of them are in the cryptotalk campaign...damn, I'm really bad at those.

Right now there are only 3 and LoyceV is one of them, the other two are in the CT campaign.
Maybe LoyceV can help you with some archived stats if he has such a thing, I assume an AI is used to back-up everything.  Grin

before the new daily limitation came (at 10).

When did this happen? I was away for almost five days and didn't bother to check those topics in the few minutes I had to spare.


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Right now there are only 3 and LoyceV is one of them, the other two are in the CT campaign.
Maybe LoyceV can help you with some archived stats if he has such a thing,
I have the data, but don't think it's worth the effort to search through it. If anyone's interested, they can make weekly archives of http://loyce.club/active/7d.html.

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Just two days back;
Update: limit from now is only 10 posts / day
That explains why so many users make exactly 10 posts per day.

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October 23, 2019, 11:40:20 AM
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Inactive; and then woke up for the sake of CryptoTalk Signature Campaign is a false statement against me I believe (for those who think this way).
Since 24th July (the day I stopped posting) to 5th Oct (the day I joined CryptoTalk Campaign), in between there were other campaigns launched where I haven't applied.[1]
I actually took a break from posting after all those Livecoin dramas, but I was active daily in the forum as read-only mode. Due to the Livecoin drama, I also got blacklisted which made me very upset.

I got blacklisted because I just posted "Reserved" in Livecoin's second phase campaign. I even didn't write my details in the application. The reason why I posted reserve because I have seen the accuser withdrawn his support from the flag and I thought the case was settled, but no, later I've known that it was not settled and the accuser supported the flag again. Trying to make a short post, so I won't be writing the whole drama and points again here. Anyway, later I forgot to delete that reserved post and got blacklisted. I haven't contacted yahoo or wrote anything about it anywhere to explain my situation to get whitelisted again because I thought this will lead to arguments and that shitty thing counter the counter process which I hate very much.

I'd have not joined Yobit's campaign if I were to wear the Yobit signature, I joined because it's CryptoTalk.

If the signature campaign is all that mattered to me from the beginning then maybe I'd be the one with most post counts and reached maximum post limits all the time in all campaigns I join(ed).

Sorry for this long post and sorry if said anything wrong. No offense! Smiley


[1] Blacklist made me upset and that's why I haven't applied or worked on it to get whitelisted...
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October 23, 2019, 10:02:55 PM
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Earned-merits or trust points are not determinant factors for post quality of posters. They are only one of componental factors and they serve as supplementary inclusive factors for poster's quality assessment. Generally, to assess post quality of one user, readers have to consider lots of things:
Earned merit would be at the very top of the list when assessing someone's post quality. Earned merits means more than total merit as a lot of users got free merit for having over a certain amount of activity. In fact, I would think that a lot of users here disregard total amount of merit, and look at how much the user has earned in the last 120 days. Of course, is is combined with taking a look at their post history personally, but is normally the #1 indicator that someone is posting good quality content.

Fully agree here - is there any option to check for "Merits earned in the last 120 days" other than ddmrddmr´s lovely tool?

I guess it would be a very interesting feature to either
A) solely have "Merits earned in the last 120 days" next to the user-info´s and/or
B) the number of total merits earned
rather than (or additional to) total number of merits

f.e. as it stands I can see user Efialtis has a 130 merits:



That means he ...

A) has earned 30 (started from 100) or
B) has earned 120 (started from 10) or
C) has earned 129 (started from 1) or
D) has earned them all

Well now I know that he just joined in May 2019 and earned 129 of those 130 merits, but without checking BPIP or ddmrddmr´s tool there is no chance to recognize his quality on the first glance.


I like BPIP but its some extra-clicks so to me this would be a nice feature on Bitcointalk, maybe we can collect some funds and pay for that feature!? Smiley

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October 23, 2019, 10:08:53 PM
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Fully agree here - is there any option to check for "Merits earned in the last 120 days" other than ddmrddmr´s lovely tool?
The Merit summary in your profile is for exactly 120 days. It's quite easy to add them up, if it can help any campaign I'll be happy to create a weekly file in CSV or any other format for this.

I like BPIP but its some extra-clicks so to me this would be a nice feature on Bitcointalk, maybe we can collect some funds and pay for that feature!? Smiley
The forum doesn't need money, so paying won't get you features. But there's a BPIP.org Chrome & FireFox Extension already.

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Inactive; and then woke up for the sake of CryptoTalk Signature Campaign is a false statement against me I believe (for those who think this way).
Since 24th July (the day I stopped posting) to 5th Oct (the day I joined CryptoTalk Campaign), in between there were other campaigns launched where I haven't applied.[1]
I actually took a break from posting after all those Livecoin dramas, but I was active daily in the forum as read-only mode. Due to the Livecoin drama, I also got blacklisted which made me very upset.

I got blacklisted because I just posted "Reserved" in Livecoin's second phase campaign. I even didn't write my details in the application. The reason why I posted reserve because I have seen the accuser withdrawn his support from the flag and I thought the case was settled, but no, later I've known that it was not settled and the accuser supported the flag again. Trying to make a short post, so I won't be writing the whole drama and points again here. Anyway, later I forgot to delete that reserved post and got blacklisted. I haven't contacted yahoo or wrote anything about it anywhere to explain my situation to get whitelisted again because I thought this will lead to arguments and that shitty thing counter the counter process which I hate very much.

I'd have not joined Yobit's campaign if I were to wear the Yobit signature, I joined because it's CryptoTalk.

If the signature campaign is all that mattered to me from the beginning then maybe I'd be the one with most post counts and reached maximum post limits all the time in all campaigns I join(ed).

Sorry for this long post and sorry if said anything wrong. No offense! Smiley


[1] Blacklist made me upset and that's why I haven't applied or worked on it to get whitelisted...

Hi mate.
I am sorry if I have upset you.

The purpose of creating this thread was introducing  good users of Crytotalk signature campaign which is mentioned in the subject. I have called these users those who are able to join other signature campaigns too, users who are tying to be helpful to forum and make constructive posts. I said that these users will remain in the forum after Cryptotalk campaigns ends.
I said there are some users who post only for money and I called these users are different form them.
I focused on the merits these users were able to earn in a short time.
I didn't make this topic to accuse someone. I made it to call you a good user.
Again, I am sorry if you didn't like the topic.

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October 23, 2019, 10:12:59 PM
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Fully agree here - is there any option to check for "Merits earned in the last 120 days" other than ddmrddmr´s lovely tool?
The Merit summary in your profile is for exactly 120 days. It's quite easy to add them up, if it can help any campaign I'll be happy to create a weekly file in CSV or any other format for this.

I am totally aware of that, thanks anyway.

Seeing those added up isn´t bad for the start but it just gives a rough estimate rather than an exact number, what might be fine for a first impression though.

But latest when it comes to applying for a Campaign where the campaign manager is asking for the number of merits earned in the past 120 days, an hour long counting-marathon steps in (at least for those that have something to count and don´t know about ddmrddmr´s tool (and how to use it)).



I like BPIP but its some extra-clicks so to me this would be a nice feature on Bitcointalk, maybe we can collect some funds and pay for that feature!? Smiley
The forum doesn't need money, so paying won't get you features. But there's a BPIP.org Chrome & FireFox Extension already.

Oh nice, didn´t know about it yet - thank you!

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October 23, 2019, 10:41:26 PM
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I am sorry if I have upset you.
Not at all, mate...  Smiley

I don't have any problem with the thread you have created and I haven't said anything related to that.

Sometimes, truth is buried so silently that no one even knows about it unless it is told otherwise. This is why I wrote something about the reason of being not posting the last few months.
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