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October 23, 2019, 11:43:24 AM
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What happened = coinsbit.io  Scam exchange + Ponzi scam
 
Scammers profile =https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2681193

Scam thread = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065

That exchange is i scam and already has a scam accusation thread created by Jollygood https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192497

Now I found that it is not only a scam exchange. It is a hidden ponzi scheme masked under the so called Invest Box

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.msg52848969#msg52848969

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Edit: reasons to support the flag on Coinsbit are summarized here.

I looked into it a little bit.

https://coinsbit.io/invest-box

"It’s NOT Pyramid/HYIP, all payments are made from special fund."

Oh, a special fund! That's so much better!!  Roll Eyes

About IGOS token (offering 3.5% tokens "interest"):

IGOS - Official token of iGO Tech Ltd

Its a WAVES token... Costs exactly 1 WAVE ($0.72) to make 100,000,000 tokens.

- home page uses generic graphics seen on a hundred other ICO web pages
- white paper plagiarizes several sources (don't have time to list them all)*
- team founders and CEO likely don't exist
- no social media profiles of any team member

*To be fair plagiarized parts are only language surrounding the idea and not the technical aspects of the idea itself -- those parts seem to be original. Regardless, its certainly not something I would consider investing in.

You have to buy $200 worth of their token to take part in "Investbox", and then after a week you will get a 3.5% "bonus" in the form of tokens. Hard to tell if it compounds or not. Basically its a way of suckering people into buying into their ICO (IEO, whatever).

Basically all of the "investbox opportunities" look like ways for IEOs to raise funds by promising their investors a little extra. I'd have to register a Coinsbit account to find out the details about how it works.





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October 24, 2019, 10:30:59 AM
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So please for the good of crypto and the credibility of your website design a structure that brings closure either way to such allegations in a promt period of time.....

Dude... you are promoting them via referral program for some shittokens. To be honest you should be tagged for that, but I will wait for the opinion of Nutildah and Jollygood .

It dose seem like a very generous airdrop and I can justify reasons for this being legitimate and also a scam. But no doubt the most painful position I could end up in for this project is if I think it's a scam and don't take the free coins and then down the track this exchange does what it's potential is suggesting and overtakes Bianance with its CNB token soaring to a value of $20 in a few years time and I decided not to spend the little time needed to get the free coins. That would be a really bad spot that I will make sure I can't be in. So I will continue to promote the referral program as $100 worth of coins for every recruitment is to good to miss out on and I have nothing to lose but a bit of time. Fingers crossed it's legitimate which as I said can make reasons for yes or no but I do know the platform is built really nice, the foundation of the whole project looks very solid with lots of great features that would entice many serious traders to take notice.

Here is my referral link anyway for anyone who wants to get 2000 free CNB:

https://coinsbit.io/referral/9811110a-9cfb-4dfb-b99e-5d200945afe5

I strongly support joining the referral program as you have nothing to lose apart from your time.

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October 24, 2019, 11:40:00 AM
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So please for the good of crypto and the credibility of your website design a structure that brings closure either way to such allegations in a promt period of time.....

Dude... you are promoting them via referral program for some shittokens. To be honest you should be tagged for that, but I will wait for the opinion of Nutildah and Jollygood .

Here is my referral link anyway for anyone who wants to get 2000 free CNB:

https://coinsbit.io/referral/9811110a-9cfb-4dfb-b99e-5d200945afe5

I strongly support joining the referral program as you have nothing to lose apart from your time.

It is against the rules to post referral links so I reported the comment.






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October 24, 2019, 01:29:52 PM
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So please for the good of crypto and the credibility of your website design a structure that brings closure either way to such allegations in a promt period of time.....

Dude... you are promoting them via referral program for some shittokens. To be honest you should be tagged for that, but I will wait for the opinion of Nutildah and Jollygood .

Here is my referral link anyway for anyone who wants to get 2000 free CNB:

https://coinsbit.io/referral/9811110a-9cfb-4dfb-b99e-5d200945afe5

I strongly support joining the referral program as you have nothing to lose apart from your time.

It is against the rules to post referral links so I reported the comment.



No hard feelings, I honestly didn't know you couldn't post links here which is surprising to say the least. I won't ever post a link again and it was removed.

And yes I'm happy to promote them as I feel it's more likely a legitimate project that yes is pumping up volumes, who can hold that against them when they are entering a market where that is the general practice? Next thing car salesman will be doing hard time because they didn't tell the truth?
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October 26, 2019, 07:38:19 AM
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Dear members,

My name is Umit Kurt, inventor of iGO Safe and CEO of IGO Tech LTD.

The reason that I am writing is to highlight some of the above accusations in regards to plagiarism of the invention which is totally incorrect.

I didn't say you plagiarized your invention, I said you plagiarized your white paper. I even qualified my statement in my first post:

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To be fair plagiarized parts are only language surrounding the idea and not the technical aspects of the idea itself -- those parts seem to be original.

From your whitepaper (archived):

From page 6:

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From seat belts to Electronic Stability Control, car safety has come a long way since the first automobiles were developed during the 19th century. Car safety is as old as the automobile itself. The first recorded fatality involving a vehicle happened in 1869 when Mary Ward, an Anglo-Irish scientist, was killed when she fell under the wheels of an experimental steam car built by her cousins. It’s likely that this event spurred authorities to adopt vehicle and road safety measures to protect not only drivers but also pedestrians.

From an article on hyundai.news:

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11 May 2018 - From seat belts to Electronic Stability Control, car safety has come a long way since the first automobiles were developed during the 19th century.

Car safety is as old as the automobile itself. The first recorded fatality involving a vehicle happened in 1869 when Mary Ward, an Anglo-Irish scientist, was killed when she fell under the wheels of an experimental steam car built by her cousins. It’s likely that this event spurred authorities to adopt vehicle and road safety measures to protect not only drivers, but also pedestrians.

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Constantly evolving vehicles have created the need for more car safety features than vehicles of the past. As cars become faster and more efficient, they must also become safer.

From a carsdirect.com article:

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Constantly evolving vehicles have created the need for more car safety features than vehicles of the past. As cars become faster and more efficient, they must also become safer.

From page 11:

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Improvements in roadway and automobile designs have steadily reduced injury and death rates in all first world countries. Nevertheless, auto collisions are the leading cause of injury-related deaths, an estimated total of 1.2 million in 2014, or 25% of the total from all causes. Of those killed by autos, nearly two-thirds are pedestrians. Risk compensation theory has been used in arguments against safety devices, regulations and modifications of vehicles despite the efficacy of saving lives.

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Improvements in roadway and automobile designs have steadily reduced injury and death rates in all first world countries.

Nevertheless, auto collisions are the leading cause of injury-related deaths, an estimated total of 1.2 million in 2004, or 25% of the total from all causes.

Of those killed by autos, nearly two-thirds are pedestrians.

Risk compensation theory has been used in arguments against safety devices, regulations and modifications of vehicles despite the efficacy of saving lives.

Your white paper is littered with plagiarism of this sort. Even if some instances of it is lifted directly from your references, you should put the parts you are taking word-for-word in quotations. Otherwise it looks like you are passing their writing off as your own.

The team does exist and I am one of the members. In regards to the social media profiles, information will be updated and even without, it shouldn't be a reason to mention that we don't exist.

Its highly suspicious that you didn't just include it in the first version of your website. Its absurd to think people will trust you without being able to verify any of your team members through social media links. Have you not studied what ICO norms are in this regard?

Ico Template, many project are using ICO templates as it is more convenient and adapting them to their taste doesn't make them illegitimate.

This is true, but it just looks lazy.

Every opinion is valuable and with respect towards anyonce taste, for some this project is not interesting, and for the other it is, also this doesn't make any project illegitimate. So, please do not make any other false accusations towards us as it might damage our image.

I strongly recommend you at least put annotations in your white paper where you are citing other sources. More importantly, you need to include social media links to your team members. Really, this is standard procedure and its hard to believe you are unaware of this.

Coinsbit looks like a scammy exchange, it lists several projects known to be scams (such as KEP for example). The burden of proof is on you to prove you are not a scam in an environment where more often a project is a scam than not.





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October 26, 2019, 09:21:54 AM
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Example: If you performed a non difficult research by only looking at our website, you can find our email and also my phone number from the CEO that you said that might not exist at all, you could drop me a Whatsapp message and had yourself introduced, and after a nice chat we could have a video call for you to provide a constructive feedback in this forum what gives you more credibility, and you should know this as well, especially in this forum. I know from different posts that there are ongoing topics related to this exchange, for that reason I will soon share my experience with this exchange here in order to show in a constructive way, if the experience with them is Positive or Negative, with the hope to bring additional value and light upon the unanswered questions on the topics in regards to this exchange.

Thank you once more for your time.

Best regards,
Umit Kurt

Nobody is going to reveal his identity to some shady person, who is associated with a scam exchange. Forget about that. If you want to share your experience about that scammy exchange, open a new thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=85.0 Also it will be nice, if you will post your opinion in another scam accusation thread related to that exchange. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194551
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October 26, 2019, 09:42:52 AM
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Plagiarism is an accusation indeed when someone is accused as making its own when its not, in this case there is no plagiarism, as all references are there.

You copied text from your references word-for-word without providing quotations. It technically is plagiarism, and at very best its extremely lazy to not come up with your own wording based on the information contained in the references.

In regards to the Whitepaper where the reference links need to be visible as you mentioned directly under the research materials are optional, it is more important that the references are in the Whitepaper, this is yet onother discussion in how a Whitepaper needs to be build up, as we not differ with the Whitepaper from any other big trustworthy projects.

Sorry but "other big trustworthy projects" simply don't engage in the behavior you do. They don't lift material straight from another source. Even if its a reference, they credit the reference while rewriting the information contained therein using their own words.

With full respect to your opinion that people associate a team with scam with lack of social media profiles I can not agree upon, every person before making statements or allegations need to do their own due diligence, as you mentioned that i should be aware of this I can only comment that this is wrong in my case.

So it sounds like you're not going to add social media profiles for your team members. Again, this is standard procedure when it comes to ICOs. Again, its lazy to shift the burden of responsibility onto your investors. While I agree they should perform "due diligence" on their own, its not exactly easy to find you on the internet given you share a name with a couple of well-known personalities.

Example: If you performed a non difficult research by only looking at our website, you can find our email and also my phone number from the CEO that you said that might not exist at all, you could drop me a Whatsapp message and had yourself introduced, and after a nice chat we could have a video call for you to provide a constructive feedback in this forum what gives you more credibility, and you should know this as well, especially in this forum.

Anybody can do any of this. It doesn't mean they are who they say they are. Again, its bizarre that you don't think you need social media profile links on your web page.





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October 28, 2019, 10:20:23 AM
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thank you very much for the information I am really helped by this post, I have been sure since the first coinbit held a 500 $ airdrop in the form of tokens, it was very impossible because there were too many people, and this news appeared coinsbit turned out to be a scam, thanks for the information I didn't invest there.
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exchanges with low reputation use tactics to attract users into their ponzi, airdrops is one of those tactics
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thank you very much for the information I am really helped by this post, I have been sure since the first coinbit held a 500 $ airdrop in the form of tokens, it was very impossible because there were too many people, and this news appeared coinsbit turned out to be a scam, thanks for the information I didn't invest there.

Must be careful if investing in coinbit looking for valid news because many threads say Coinsbit does have indications of fraud, the Coinsbit exchange is currently still active and there are lots of trades and also several tokens that enter the exchange, so hopefully you will do more research.

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November 14, 2019, 07:45:53 PM
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Must be careful if investing in coinbit looking for valid news because many threads say Coinsbit does have indications of fraud, the Coinsbit exchange is currently still active and there are lots of trades and also several tokens that enter the exchange, so hopefully you will do more research.
Are there any specific facts that confirm that Coinsbit exchange is a scam? I have an account on this exchange, and I traded a little there. I did not notice any problems with this exchange.
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November 15, 2019, 10:08:18 AM
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thank you very much for the information I am really helped by this post, I have been sure since the first coinbit held a 500 $ airdrop in the form of tokens, it was very impossible because there were too many people, and this news appeared coinsbit turned out to be a scam, thanks for the information I didn't invest there.
The CNB coin is not yet traded. Therefore, the figure of 500 dollars is a conditional concept. The CNB coin will begin to be traded on January 1 and then it will become clear how much money the participants of the Coinsbit airdrop received.
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November 15, 2019, 10:28:38 AM
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thank you very much for the information I am really helped by this post, I have been sure since the first coinbit held a 500 $ airdrop in the form of tokens, it was very impossible because there were too many people, and this news appeared coinsbit turned out to be a scam, thanks for the information I didn't invest there.
The CNB coin is not yet traded. Therefore, the figure of 500 dollars is a conditional concept. The CNB coin will begin to be traded on January 1 and then it will become clear how much money the participants of the Coinsbit airdrop received.
If more people received CNB coins for participating in an airdrop, then it is logical to expect coins to be dropped and, accordingly, a price dump. Although the main holder of coins is Coinsbit exchange, and accordingly they can maintain the course. I think that the Coinsbit team understood what they were doing when they distributed so many CNB coins.
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November 15, 2019, 10:33:41 AM
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Wow.. Now Coinsbit shills are posting in a scam accusation thread. Tagged all of them.
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Wow.. Now Coinsbit shills are posting in a scam accusation thread. Tagged all of them.

LOL. Maybe the posted here by mistake. What morons. I think Coinsbit themselves are even dumber for continuing to hire them as they are no longer bumping their main thread. Their thread just looks like 104 pages of scammy garbage now.





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November 15, 2019, 11:07:42 AM
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LOL. Maybe the posted here by mistake. What morons. I think Coinsbit themselves are even dumber for continuing to hire them as they are no longer bumping their main thread. Their thread just looks like 104 pages of scammy garbage now.

Deeponion is a record holder in the competition of spam threads, but Coinsbit is competing very hard to outrun them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2006010.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065
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November 16, 2019, 01:14:50 PM
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LOL. Maybe the posted here by mistake. What morons. I think Coinsbit themselves are even dumber for continuing to hire them as they are no longer bumping their main thread. Their thread just looks like 104 pages of scammy garbage now.

Deeponion is a record holder in the competition of spam threads, but Coinsbit is competing very hard to outrun them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2006010.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065
If you were held accountable for false charges, you would have already been punished. Coinsbit works without problems and has more than 500,000 users, DeepOnion has existed for several years and has thousands of supporters ... and only you say the dirt on these projects.
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November 16, 2019, 01:32:25 PM
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Coinsbit works without problems and has more than 500,000 users, DeepOnion has existed for several years and has thousands of supporters ... and only you say the dirt on these projects.

Dude.. Just fuck off. I already tagged you as a paid shill of Coinsbit scammers and I am sure that you will receive more tags very soon.
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November 17, 2019, 12:58:33 PM
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The more you write negative about the Coinsbit exchange, the more you attract the attention of users to this exchange.
Negative advertising is also advertising!
People register on Coinsbit and see that in reality is a completely normal exchange.
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