Do double RX 570 is fine and how much daily ?

[commandera]

Hello

I almost starting mining in my room small rig

I don't know really which 2 gpu is best here i read few RX 570  is cool

questions

1- which best 2 gpu ?
2- do all motherboard support crossfire and SLI for nvidia ?
3- do cpu matter here ?
4- i guess 8 Ram is fine ?
5- for 2 gpu do mining BTC or ETH and which pool ?


Thank you

[nc50lc]

1- which best 2 gpu ?

Depends on the Altcoin that you're planning to mine. If it's Ethereum, anything but 3/2/1GB cards are fine.
Just visit whattomine.com to check the current profitability of GPUs over known Algos.

2- do all motherboard support crossfire and SLI for nvidia ?

Mostly new Mobos does, but it's usually not required for Altcoin Mining.

3- do cpu matter here ?

No, any newer models like i3 can handle the mining software and other processes.
The GPUs will do most of the work.

4- i guess 8 Ram is fine ?

4GB is fine, 8 is sufficient.
You might need to increase your Virtual Ram to 16GB and up though, depending on the coin.

5- for 2 gpu do mining BTC or ETH and which pool ?

You can't mine BTC using GPUs, you can earn BTC by selling your hashrates to Nicehash as an alternative.
If you will directly mine Altcoins that pays altcoins, here's the list of Altcoin Pools: Pools (Altcoins)

[Lafu]

You can't mine BTC using GPUs,

Wrong on that point !

You can mine BTC but you will dont find a share with GPUs as the Asics are to fast and the diff is to high !
Its still possible with the cgminer-3.7.2 to mine scrypt algo with GPU but here are the same as for the sha256 algo.

I would say if you want to mine maybe Go for Nvidia as they are realy good on the hashrates and power consum!
1070 -1080 GTX or if you would like to spend more money you can go for the 2070 - 2080 but they are realy expensive.
And yeb it depends on what coin and algo you would mine .

[dothebeats]

RX 570s are somewhat weak now when it comes to crypto mining, and will also depend on which algorithms/coins are you going to mine. Also, it’s more likely for you to toast your GPUs right even before you make a few dollars and never meet your ROI. For that price, I’d rather buy a few alts and then work my way from there. Risks may be higher but the realistic profit is there.

[UserU]

You can't mine BTC using GPUs,

Wrong on that point !

You can mine BTC but you will dont find a share with GPUs as the Asics are to fast and the diff is to high !
Its still possible with the cgminer-3.7.2 to mine scrypt algo with GPU but here are the same as for the sha256 algo.

I would say if you want to mine maybe Go for Nvidia as they are realy good on the hashrates and power consum!
1070 -1080 GTX or if you would like to spend more money you can go for the 2070 - 2080 but they are realy expensive.
And yeb it depends on what coin and algo you would mine .

Actually mining BTC on GPUs has become pretty much a waste of resources due to the difficulty.

Sure, you can still get some Sats but you're paying more on electricity, heat dissipitation and possible replacement on a heavily worn-out GPU.

[nc50lc]

You can't mine BTC using GPUs,

Wrong on that point !

You can mine BTC but you will dont find a share with GPUs as the Asics are to fast and the diff is to high !
Its still possible with the cgminer-3.7.2 to mine scrypt algo with GPU but here are the same as for the sha256 algo.

That's the point
*Facepalms* I don't know what you're trying to prove there but; because of "that", you can't mine BTC with GPUs.

BTW, your hashrate will be too low, the pools won't even know you're mining.

[mocacinno]

You can't mine BTC using GPUs,

Wrong on that point !

You can mine BTC but you will dont find a share with GPUs as the Asics are to fast and the diff is to high !
Its still possible with the cgminer-3.7.2 to mine scrypt algo with GPU but here are the same as for the sha256 algo.

I would say if you want to mine maybe Go for Nvidia as they are realy good on the hashrates and power consum!
1070 -1080 GTX or if you would like to spend more money you can go for the 2070 - 2080 but they are realy expensive.
And yeb it depends on what coin and algo you would mine .

I'm sorry, but this post gives newbies the illusion it's a good idear to start mining with a GPU. I know, on a technical level, it's possible to create sha256d hashes using a cpu, gpu or even pen and paper... However, if you can't resist making a  statement that nc50lc is wrong, i'd defenatly include a warning not to mine with a GPU since it'll literally earn satoshi's per year.

For example, if you mine with an Nvidia GTX 1070, you'll hash @ ~981,43 Mh/s while drawing ~150 Watt*
The current difficulty: 13691480038694
The average block reward + fees: 12.5 + 0.18 = 12.68
The formula to calculate the AVERAGE income per day:
((((Hashrate (hashes/sec) * average block reward * 600 * 65535) / 2^48) / Difficulty) * 6 * 24)
((((981430000 * 12.68* 600 *65535)/2^48)/13691480038694) * 6 * 24) = 1,8 satoshi's/day

=> 0.000007 BTC /year for mining 24/7, 365 days... That's about 5 cents a year, after burning 1,3 Megawatt of power...
If you're pool mining, the odds of not finding a single share at their mininum diff are pretty big, and even if you do... The odds of ever reaching their minimum payout are incredibly small...

So, i agree with nc50lc that saying you cannot mine using a GPU is acceptable in order to protect newbies and uninformed members. IF you say that mining with a GPU is possible, i must insist it's allmost mandatory to add a big, fat warning so that newbies don't try this at home...

source:
*https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2054800.0

[Lafu]

You dont have to explain that all to me because i know that !
I have mined in the early days btc and ltc with gpus as there was no asic and i just written that its still possible !
Never said or has written that its profitable or you get something back of doing it .
For sure its a waste of time and power.

[mocacinno]

You dont have to explain that all to me because i know that !
I have mined in the early days btc and ltc with gpus as there was no asic and i just written that its still possible !
Never said or has written that its profitable or you get something back of doing it .
For sure its a waste of time and power.

I know you've been around longer than i have... The explanation wasn't for you, it was for any newbie that stumbled upon this thread, browsed trough the replys and, based on these replies ,concluded it was wise to start GPU mining.
My main point is: you're both correct... Technically, it's possible to mine with a cpu, gpu, excel-formula, pen and paper,... HOWEVER, nc50lc is also correct in saying you can not mine with a GPU, eventough this is technically wrong, these statements prevents newbies from wasting time and resources on a wild goose chase.

My main concern is that this isn't a discussion between Lafu, nc50lc and myself... It's a public forum, and whatever is written by a longtime member is going to be read by newcomers searching for information. I don't think it's a bad idear to tell them it's impossible to mine with a GPU.

It's like saying: you cannot poke a rattlesnake with a stick... Sure, on a technical level it just requires a snake and a stick, and the physics of stickpoking are actually quite simple. HOWEVER, it's not a good idear: it's very nature-unfriendly, it's hazardous for both the snake and the poker, and you'll gain nothing. So, instead of going on a public forum stating you CAN poke a ratllesnake with a stick, i think it's perfectly acceptable to tell newcomers that snakepoking is something you cannot do.

But since all three of us are basically saying the exact same thing, and we're having a discussion about semantics, i'm going to step out of this discussion here.

[philipma1957]

Hello

I almost starting mining in my room small rig

I don't know really which 2 gpu is best here i read few RX 570  is cool

questions

1- which best 2 gpu ?
2- do all motherboard support crossfire and SLI for nvidia ?
3- do cpu matter here ?
4- i guess 8 Ram is fine ?
5- for 2 gpu do mining BTC or ETH and which pool ?


Thank you

cpu matters bigly bro

the amd ryzen 9 3900x  is a solid cpu for mining

it mines xmr

I would get

this ram

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164104?

this cpu


https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103?

this mobo

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157886?

this ssd


https://www.newegg.com/corsair-force-mp510-480gb/p/N82E16820236476?

2 of these cards
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-1165-KR

and the evga bundle of this case

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=166-W1-2232-KR
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-G3-0850-X1

as a bundle  they charge  199  which is cheap.

so

 529 cpu
 165 mobo
   69 ssd
 129 ram
 458 gpus
 199 case and psu

1550  for a really good pc  but it earns about 1.50 a day  before power.


 Still it is a really nice pc. Frankly you could cheap out and go in other directions I have 2 pcs very much like above.

[Lafu]

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Dont worry all is cool and good i got your point  and also i got nc50lc 's point and yes you are right !

Today and in the last 2 years it is and was much easyer to find the settings and more information how to setup the miner software!
And i am realy glad that there are some guides and helping post's for setup the miners .
As i started there wasnt so much information on that and the most times you have to figure out by yourself what was the best settings and commands in your start.bat !
And at this time there was a much more commands in it as you have it today !

Anyway hope the OP got the information or the most on his questions and with philipma1957 's post there is a good view what he need !

[commandera]

Thank you very much guys i really thinked about Bitman i think is s9 but is very loud can`t use it in my home for starting mining

anyway i know not that big profit and i`m so late about mining i will make one soon but as you said maybe i go with nvidia 1660ti or 2060

additional

When the BTC price 10K$ do mining is easier than now 7k ?

Compare the difficulty mining between BTC 10k dollar before few months , and BTC 7$ now Which best mining time ? ?

isn`t when BTC dropped that better mining ?

note : i already using Ryzen 1600 and 1060 with mobo b350 main pc since 2017
i`ll upgrade soon to ryzen gen 3 soon with mobo x570  < so i will have free mobo b350 and cpu 1600 for mining but there something like PCIe to make more than 1 gpu ? i have 1 slot gpu

[nc50lc]

note : i already using Ryzen 1600 and 1060 with mobo b350 main pc since 2017
i`ll upgrade soon to ryzen gen 3 soon with mobo x570  < so i will have free mobo b350 and cpu 1600 for mining but there something like PCIe to make more than 1 gpu ? i have 1 slot gpu

B350 (product link) has 2 PCI-e x16 slots and 2 PCI-e x1 slots, so you can theoretically use up to 4 GPUs (using 2-4 PCI-e risers).
If you're not planning to mine XMR using your CPU and stick to GPU mining, you don't have to upgrade. If you really want to, just do the math and go on if it's reasonable.

For the difficulty, it's not based from the current price of Bitcoin (or Altcoins), it's based from the total hashrate of the previous weeks/days depending on the coin.

[batsonxl]

Thank you very much guys i really thinked about Bitman i think is s9 but is very loud can`t use it in my home for starting mining

anyway i know not that big profit and i`m so late about mining i will make one soon but as you said maybe i go with nvidia 1660ti or 2060

additional

When the BTC price 10K$ do mining is easier than now 7k ?

Compare the difficulty mining between BTC 10k dollar before few months , and BTC 7$ now Which best mining time ? ?

isn`t when BTC dropped that better mining ?

note : i already using Ryzen 1600 and 1060 with mobo b350 main pc since 2017
i`ll upgrade soon to ryzen gen 3 soon with mobo x570  < so i will have free mobo b350 and cpu 1600 for mining but there something like PCIe to make more than 1 gpu ? i have 1 slot gpu

1660 and 2060 not so good choice because they are expensive. rx480 and rx 580 smarter choice they are cheap and draw 90watts and also brings nearly same as 1660TI,
BTC 10k worst time was to mine, i really liked mining when it was 3.2k,. but honestly it is not worth because it pays pennies now,almost every card just pennies.rx 580 at 32Mhs paing just 35cents for a day,minus electricity you do the maths. even with free electricity it brings 10dollars for a month.
Good luck

[swogerino]

I think double Rx570 is great for gaming and I think 16 Gb of Ram is ok,the motherboard should support crossfire in order to get best performance.

For mining right now they make about 0.08mBtc daily which is one really small amount.