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October 25, 2019, 09:53:36 AM |
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Satoshi wrote: "If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry" from this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6269#msg6269I reflected upon this statements so many times since i discovered Bitcoin long time ago. Today I had an idea: I don't have time sounds to me like someone who knows that he doesn't have time. I mean someone who knew his life was going to end soon. Maybe he had cancer and he was going towards a sure death in few time. I thought about this for the first time today and I have such a realistic feeling about this..I can't explain .
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October 25, 2019, 10:09:54 AM |
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This sounds interesting! So do you have any suggestions on who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto? But base on your statement and if I'm not mistaken, I would like to assume you are implying that the real Satoshi Nakamoto could be the late Hal Finney as what some people also had theorized. Though unfortunately he died not from cancer but some other kind of disease. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 25, 2019, 10:26:54 AM |
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Nah, the word " I don't have time" can mean so many things. you can check this thread. but him suddenly leaving the project really gives you that kind of thoughts. but in the end, we don't know what really happened to him and we are left wondering about it.
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October 25, 2019, 10:49:50 AM |
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you are overthinking it waaaaaay too much and are taking the statement out of context. the design is there, the explanation is also there and sometimes you can't just keep repeating yourself over and over to people. either they understand it or they resist understanding it. you can't spend your entire time trying to convince people why and how the system works fine!
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October 25, 2019, 10:51:56 AM |
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Before I read this post and read the thread that satoshi wrote, I was considering the same thing. He might be dead! I hope he is well and come to the arena in the near future. We will learn a lot from him but this seems unlikely. For the things that he has done, a person should study hard in his/her life to achieve the vision that they have. So, satoshi is/was probably very old and beyond our thoughts.
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October 25, 2019, 10:52:35 AM |
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Maybe he believes in saying, you can't please everyone, so than to explain he prefer to do more important things, experiment, create and innovate more blockchain networks. I don't think he's into social aspect to pleased everyone, he's just too smart and curious in developing project and I like to create him in my mind to be these mysterious and not in getting attention that might threaten his life. I hope he's still alive and enjoying his privacy he deserves.
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October 25, 2019, 10:55:53 AM |
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This sounds interesting! So do you have any suggestions on who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto? But base on your statement and if I'm not mistaken, I would like to assume you are implying that the real Satoshi Nakamoto could be the late Hal Finney as what some people also had theorized. Though unfortunately he died not from cancer but some other kind of disease. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I wouldn't have think this as well, perhaps " I don't have time" could imply something else. But if you look at that thread though, it seems that Satoshi is replying to someone and not wanting to go on another discussion to convince the other side. So it doesn't sound like he doesn't have " time in this world", or he could be dying of disease or something.
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October 25, 2019, 11:23:31 AM |
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I guess you should learn hermeneutics. You will understand why your interpretation is way out of hand.
No point discussing this anyway, unless you want to start a spam galore thread.
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October 25, 2019, 11:26:53 AM |
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Nope. He was pretty clear about what he said. You don't argue with trolls. There is nothing to gain and they make you waste your most precious resource: Your time. He is simply clever enough to be aware of this.
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October 25, 2019, 11:38:50 AM |
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Funny title op. What is the point of assuming what he meant the statement that you are referring to. In the end, no one will ever know the truth behind who he/she is, why he disappeared etc unless he/she reveal themselves(Legit).
This is like the Bermuda triangle and other unsolved mysteries which probably will never be cracked. People will come up with thousands of assumptions, but the truth will stay hidden. Forget about what he/she tried to convey through that statement and focus on the future of the crypto world instead.
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October 25, 2019, 11:58:43 AM |
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You're definitely overthinking it a bit too much. It's just like trying to explain something to your girlfriend when she thinks you're lying, even when you're not. At some point, you're going to get really tired of explaining and defending yourself that you're convinced that nothing is going to change her mind, so you're like "whatever" instead. I think it's the same with this case with Satoshi and Dan Larimer.
With that said, that's a decent theory though(At least compared to the other theories), probably tying the theory to Hal Finney.
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October 25, 2019, 12:38:33 PM |
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Well, I think he was very busy back then with bitcoin and probably was under pressure to make things work. Looks like he was very convinced about his idea. Not necessarily due to arrogance as some may have thought.
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October 25, 2019, 01:10:42 PM |
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I get your point but seeing it, I don't actually get it about why did you come up with kind of idea? I mean its your thoughts and opinion but how? Well no one is able to determine if its true or not but lets just hope that Satoshi is in a pretty good place right now. I know that some of you find it as peculiar but isn't this too much? yes its possible though. I think its better if we just respect him/her/them, we don't have to make everything complicated since Satoshi is the only person who can explain the real meaning of that.
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October 25, 2019, 01:21:59 PM |
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Today I had an idea: I don't have time sounds to me like someone who knows that he doesn't have time. I mean someone who knew his life was going to end soon. Maybe he had cancer and he was going towards a sure death in few time.
I thought about this for the first time today and I have such a realistic feeling about this..I can't explain .
With the forum anniversary coming it is quite natural to have some realistic feelings towards Satoshi and this is the second Satoshi thread i am responding today and there were many in the past few months. Like everyone said you are Overthinking and taking things out of context here. Satoshi during that time was trying to respond to every doubts and he was not willing to spend time for something which was discussed earlier and hence he said he does not have the time to convince each and everyone . You saw the thread and still you got this idea of taking a sentence out of context, let me guess, you are high right now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Take some rest and go through that thread carefully and you will understand what he was trying to say ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . probably tying the theory to Hal Finney.
While reading the thread even i thought he is concluding that it was Hal Finney ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .
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October 25, 2019, 01:24:06 PM |
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Satoshi wrote: "If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry" from this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6269#msg6269I reflected upon this statements so many times since i discovered Bitcoin long time ago. Today I had an idea: I don't have time sounds to me like someone who knows that he doesn't have time. I mean someone who knew his life was going to end soon. Maybe he had cancer and he was going towards a sure death in few time. I thought about this for the first time today and I have such a realistic feeling about this..I can't explain . You have taken the context of the sentence in a completely wrong way mate. In the above statement, Satoshi clearly said that he doesn't have time "to try to convince you" which means he doesn't want to waste time in convincing people who don't believe in him or the technology behind bitcoin. It's just as simple as that.
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Well, I think he was very busy back then with bitcoin and probably was under pressure to make things work. Looks like he was very convinced about his idea. Not necessarily due to arrogance as some may have thought.
He don't want to spoon feed the users of bitcoin, he already done his part in creating it. Why not should do our part to think how it works and benefits it can give us. As long as he know he do fine in creating the system and it works well in his perspective then he don't need others perception since he knows whose willing to learn will find ways to understand it.
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October 25, 2019, 03:58:35 PM |
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Satoshi wrote: "If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry" from this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6269#msg6269I reflected upon this statements so many times since i discovered Bitcoin long time ago. Today I had an idea: I don't have time sounds to me like someone who knows that he doesn't have time. I mean someone who knew his life was going to end soon. Maybe he had cancer and he was going towards a sure death in few time. I thought about this for the first time today and I have such a realistic feeling about this..I can't explain . I don't know... Satoshi can be dead by now, for sure. It could be Dave Kleiman, it could be someone else. But honestly, I don't see this phrase in the same way. To me, it sounds like "I won't waste my time on convincing you" or like "it'll take forever to change your mind, so it does not make sense for me to go for it". And the message was written months before Satoshi disappeared, it's not like it was very close to his last Bitcointalk visit. Taking a look at that thread, though, the person was right to raise the issue of micro-payments, because it is a serious obstacle on the way towards mass adoption these days.
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You have read between the lines I think. I think what he meant there is if you are not interested or don't believe in him he doesn't want to waste his time convincing other people. We don't actually know what really happened to Satoshi, everyone has their own speculation who he is or what happened to him. The only thing who can verify that would be people who knows his work and know him personally who I think keeps his secret and makes sure he stays anonymous.
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October 25, 2019, 05:52:01 PM |
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That's a very wild imagination with that statement op hahaha. What if he's pertaining to it as having no time because he's a busy person. You know, a genius are always busy. Or it could also mean that he has no time to teach each and everyone who doesn't want to belive it. Maybe he doesn't want to force everyone to use it if they don't really want. I think that's what he meant. You're over thinking about his statement. This ain't a detective thingy that we have to decipher every statement he made.
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Well, Satoshi was clearly quoting a member that asking him and trying to insist not to believe. And it doesn't mean that it's all about bitcoin. We respect what on Satoshi's decision and until now Satoshi was not revealing himself just for his own security. That was completely overthinking that a baseless conclusion, Indeed, still have a big question in my mind. " Where is/are Satoshi now?". Not asking a bitcoin nor asking how he made bitcoin but I want to say thank you for him for such a good gift on us and until now we used it.
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