Top Saudi Cleric: The Sun Revolves Around The Earth…

[LostDutchman]

I can't see the sun this morning at all due to cloud cover which causes me to question whether or not the sun is really still there.

My $.02.

[Balthazar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkWPApsbGaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsyZ0WgrwPY

I think those videos are interesting enough.

[mexxer]

lol this might be true guys, be open for suggestions and not this "closed"

[BitOnyx]

In US there is big organisation that believe |Earth is flat. I don't think we should care about this kind of people.

[pedrog]

In US there is big organisation that believe |Earth is flat. I don't think we should care about this kind of people.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/

[Wilikon]

In US there is big organisation that believe |Earth is flat. I don't think we should care about this kind of people.

Flat Earth Productions is a special effects company created in 1995 to provide the effects to the television series Xena: Warrior Princess and Hercules: The Legendary Journeys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Productions

[MP5KU]

I don't get how people believe in religion.. It's all a load of cobblers to me..

[jeffersonairplane]

Looks like they are living in another planet. 

[LostDutchman]

I don't get how people believe in religion.. It's all a load of cobblers to me..

I would have been less polite in my description of religion!

LOL!

My $.02.

[Vod]

Primitive, superstitious people.

Yet we are forced to interact with them on a regular basis.   

[Wilikon]

Primitive, superstitious people.

Yet we are forced to interact with them on a regular basis.   

Yep. Just like when you interact with my threads. sad I know. 

[Khadaji]

I don't get how people believe in religion.. It's all a load of cobblers to me..

When you are so firmly convinced of your righteousness (oops, wrong word), perhaps it's time to re-examine your fundamental (oops again) perceptions.

I'm reminded of the funny story told by Dinesh D'Souza: "Addressing the Big Bang theory, D'Souza agreed with Krauss that there was nothing in the beginning – no energy, no particles, no time or space. And that is "completely consistent with what Christians believe and exactly said by the ancient Hebrews thousands of years ago without doing a single experiment but solely on the basis of 'God told us.'"

"And the astounding fact is that 2,000 years later, modern science after climbing round and round the mountain has arrived at the top only to find a bunch of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries," said D'Souza to laughter from the audience."

It might be sobering to think that people far more intelligent than you or I have no problems believing in religion.

[pedrog]

I don't get how people believe in religion.. It's all a load of cobblers to me..

When you are so firmly convinced of your righteousness (oops, wrong word), perhaps it's time to re-examine your fundamental (oops again) perceptions.

I'm reminded of the funny story told by Dinesh D'Souza: "Addressing the Big Bang theory, D'Souza agreed with Krauss that there was nothing in the beginning – no energy, no particles, no time or space. And that is "completely consistent with what Christians believe and exactly said by the ancient Hebrews thousands of years ago without doing a single experiment but solely on the basis of 'God told us.'"

"And the astounding fact is that 2,000 years later, modern science after climbing round and round the mountain has arrived at the top only to find a bunch of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries," said D'Souza to laughter from the audience."

It might be sobering to think that people far more intelligent than you or I have no problems believing in religion.

It was a 50/50 chance, the universe always existed or it had a beginning, and the middle eastern bronze age sheep herders got it right, it had a beginning, but so did the Hindus and Buddha and the Egyptians and many others...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creation_myths

[merockstar]

Could they be talking about galaxies floating around a black hole?

[Khadaji]

I don't get how people believe in religion.. It's all a load of cobblers to me..

When you are so firmly convinced of your righteousness (oops, wrong word), perhaps it's time to re-examine your fundamental (oops again) perceptions.

I'm reminded of the funny story told by Dinesh D'Souza: "Addressing the Big Bang theory, D'Souza agreed with Krauss that there was nothing in the beginning – no energy, no particles, no time or space. And that is "completely consistent with what Christians believe and exactly said by the ancient Hebrews thousands of years ago without doing a single experiment but solely on the basis of 'God told us.'"

"And the astounding fact is that 2,000 years later, modern science after climbing round and round the mountain has arrived at the top only to find a bunch of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries," said D'Souza to laughter from the audience."

It might be sobering to think that people far more intelligent than you or I have no problems believing in religion.

It was a 50/50 chance, the universe always existed or it had a beginning, and the middle eastern bronze age sheep herders got it right, it had a beginning, but so did the Hindus and Buddha and the Egyptians and many others...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creation_myths

Accuracy is a useful thing... Hindu, for example, from the quick searches I did, seem far more consistent with a cyclical theory of the universe.

I'll also point out that your view that this was merely a statistical fluke means that science has been wrong for many centuries... certainly wrong when the evidence was in view, and most of science still rejected it.

I'm not anti-science, by the way... I'm anti-dogmatic.

I do, however, reject the belief in materialism so persistent in science.

[pedrog]

I don't get how people believe in religion.. It's all a load of cobblers to me..

When you are so firmly convinced of your righteousness (oops, wrong word), perhaps it's time to re-examine your fundamental (oops again) perceptions.

I'm reminded of the funny story told by Dinesh D'Souza: "Addressing the Big Bang theory, D'Souza agreed with Krauss that there was nothing in the beginning – no energy, no particles, no time or space. And that is "completely consistent with what Christians believe and exactly said by the ancient Hebrews thousands of years ago without doing a single experiment but solely on the basis of 'God told us.'"

"And the astounding fact is that 2,000 years later, modern science after climbing round and round the mountain has arrived at the top only to find a bunch of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries," said D'Souza to laughter from the audience."

It might be sobering to think that people far more intelligent than you or I have no problems believing in religion.

It was a 50/50 chance, the universe always existed or it had a beginning, and the middle eastern bronze age sheep herders got it right, it had a beginning, but so did the Hindus and Buddha and the Egyptians and many others...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creation_myths

Accuracy is a useful thing... Hindu, for example, from the quick searches I did, seem far more consistent with a cyclical theory of the universe.

I'll also point out that your view that this was merely a statistical fluke means that science has been wrong for many centuries... certainly wrong when the evidence was in view, and most of science still rejected it.

I'm not anti-science, by the way... I'm anti-dogmatic.

I do, however, reject the belief in materialism so persistent in science.

I see where you're coming from, but I saw a lot of D'Souza talks and debates and I don't find his arguments convincing, I remember watching the debate you quoted and I don't see any evidence for special knowledge on the bible based on that argument, they got that thing right but a lot of other simple stuff wrong, like slavery, or women coming from a mans rib, or a global flood, well, you can see where I'm going...

[Swordsoffreedom]

Well the Sun Revolves around the Galaxy and the Galaxy Revolves Around Something So Mind blowing  

But to troll the moon revolves around the earth in an elliptical orbit, with a mean eccentricity of 0.0549.

[pioter]

standard for goat lovers ...

[ijphlrnxewho]

“And the sun runs towards its stopping point. That is the determination of the All-Powerful, the All-Knowing.”

I don't think that quote was talking about the Sun. The Sun as in The "Son" of God. "All-Knowing" as in "To Know; knowledge" is referring to a physical being not a planet such as "The Sun" but as in "The Son"

Bottom line is:
The whole world revolves around me, the Son of God.

I guess you can say that:
The planet Earth revolves around the "Son".

[RodeoX]

Funny how people believe in something so provably wrong. You can go in your back yard with a toy telescope and a calculator and prove the Earth revolves around the sun. It's like saying evolution is not really happening, despite us seeing it everywhere.