Does MEDIA affect you? A poll

[Spendulus]

Okay, this may seem silly.

No cause or effect is ascertained by this poll!

Regardless...

Someone recently pointed out that people in the crypto world are likely not typical consumer "TV watchers."

Is this true or are we the same as the rest?

Any suggestion on how to handle international outside of USA?

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[ChiBitCTy]

I’ve made a great group of friends from all over the world from this forum and it’s insane to me how alike many of us are, despite our vastly different cultural Upbringings. One thing most of us seem to have in common is our dislike for mainstream media /news /government. Mostly political independents who think outside the box and never take the news at face value until careful review. It’s extremely refreshing to me. So my experience is we do not let the media take hold of us, like most of the modern world does. I believe many members here are similar in this fashion.

[Spendulus]

I’ve made a great group of friends from all over the world from this forum and it’s insane to me how alike many of us are, despite our vastly different cultural Upbringings. One thing most of us seem to have in common is our dislike for mainstream media /news /government. Mostly political independents who think outside the box and never take the news at face value until careful review. It’s extremely refreshing to me. So my experience is we do not let the media take hold of us, like most of the modern world does. I believe many members here are similar in this fashion.

I went for a solid ten years really never watching any tv, but have recently changed that and sort of spot watch a few minutes here and there.

Now my main problem with the TV style media is the concepts and ideas move way too slow. Like I can read a complex paragraph in a minute, but they'll waste ten minutes with it and stay on the shallow analysis.

[tvbcof]

Knowing that mainstream media is nearly 100% Zionist owned and with the mission to herd the stupid goyim in a direction of their choosing makes it possible to extract useful information by analyzing it.  But I don't own a TV so mostly what I see from the MSM are clips from internet based information outlets.

[styca]

TV news is appallingly biased. I'm from the UK, and the much-vaunted "impartial" BBC has always been aggressively right-wing. I would say newspapers are far worse than TV though, it's not just manipulation and distortion of truth, there is a lot now that is just outright lies. Everyone has an agenda, and it is obviously the ultra-rich who control the media, so they promote their own agenda. It is extremely depressing that they can so easily manipulate the electorate. We also have the internet as a news source, and I would agree to an extent that a lot of it is echo chambers where you only hear opinions that you already agree with.

Even so, being aware of all this - I would suspect I am still influenced by the media. It is just a relentless bombardment, and even if you think you are immune to "news", you still get influenced by TV advertising for example, no matter how much you try to fight it.

[tvbcof]

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Even so, being aware of all this - I would suspect I am still influenced by the media. It is just a relentless bombardment, and even if you think you are immune to "news", you still get influenced by TV advertising for example, no matter how much you try to fight it.

Very good point!

Also, it is critical to try to gain an understanding of whoever is disseminating information.  It is also critical to realize that every source almost without exception is subject to shift over time.  Often they are bought out directly and the organization changes hands.  Often key elements within an organization is incentivized to introduce a shift or slant into their content.

Currently one of my main sources of information is 'trunews'.  These guys are Christians and they make no bones about wishing people to become Christians or become better Christians as they define it.  That is fine.  It doesn't interest me much but I admire their candor.  They have professional production quality and most of their information is quite solid in evaluating their track record and cross-checking with other sources.

I've constantly switch my 'short list' of information sources.  Sometimes they have been corrupt and gave their hand away (usually on some 'key event' which was important enough to someone to risk their cover.)  Fine.  There are a handful of people who I've followed for a very long time.  Corbett comes to mind.  He's got his shortisightedness and aversion to certain realities, but the information he does put forward tends to be rock solid.  He also is creative enough to find angles I'd not thought of sometimes.

[styca]

Also, it is critical to try to gain an understanding of whoever is disseminating information.  It is also critical to realize that every source almost without exception is subject to shift over time.  Often they are bought out directly and the organization changes hands.  Often key elements within an organization is incentivized to introduce a shift or slant into their content.

Very true. My main news source for the UK is The Guardian, which is probably as close to independent unbiased news as we would get in a newspaper. The paper is owned by a Trust, which "forms part of a unique ownership structure [...] that ensures editorial interests remain free of commercial pressures"
https://www.theguardian.com/the-scott-trust/2015/jul/26/the-scott-trust  

I also follow a lot of people who do not appear to have any commercial incentive to write the stuff they write, people like Noam Chomsky. Also (and I know some people don't like him), Michael Moore is good.

But as with everything in life, it is important to question everything, every "fact" that you hear, no matter how independent the source may seem.

[squatz1]

Eh, in this day and age I honestly cant even watch tv from either side. Fox is too right, CNN is too left. They both have their own twist on how they present things.

The only thing I can do at this point is read the news -- mostly the WSJ. Seems a lot better then anything else. Limits the amount of bias that I can put on myself.

[tsaroz]

We may not know it but everything we see and hear are influencing us to same extent. It would be safe to assume all of us are filled by larger amount of propaganda and lesser amount of truth.
In order to know the right things, we should always keep our mind open to every new and uncomfortable ideas. Listen to everyone and verify every details yourself.
While judging things, we should always provide bias towards the voice that is less heard. By default, the people in power tends to misuse it.

[ewaspiro]

Okay, this may seem silly.

No cause or effect is ascertained by this poll!

Regardless...

Someone recently pointed out that people in the crypto world are likely not typical consumer "TV watchers."

Is this true or are we the same as the rest?

Any suggestion on how to handle international outside of USA?

Im from Europe and stopped reading MSM newspapers and stopped watching TV. Now mostly reading "alternative" news and only watch TV shows (but try to avoid the PC bullshit)

But reading all comments here it truely makes sense, if you are here (bitcointalk) you automatically defy the system and think independantly.

My 1 cent

[styca]

Okay, this may seem silly.

No cause or effect is ascertained by this poll!

Regardless...

Someone recently pointed out that people in the crypto world are likely not typical consumer "TV watchers."

Is this true or are we the same as the rest?

Any suggestion on how to handle international outside of USA?

Im from Europe and stopped reading MSM newspapers and stopped watching TV. Now mostly reading "alternative" news and only watch TV shows (but try to avoid the PC bullshit)

But reading all comments here it truely makes sense, if you are here (bitcointalk) you automatically defy the system and think independantly.

My 1 cent

I think this is generally true, yes. It probably applies even more to the hero/legendary people on here who have been involved in crypto since near the beginning - in those days there weren't any positive news stories that might entice people in. I would say if you have a very old account, there is a strong correlation there with independent thinking.

[tvbcof]

I think this is generally true, yes. It probably applies even more to the hero/legendary people on here who have been involved in crypto since near the beginning - in those days there weren't any positive news stories that might entice people in. I would say if you have a very old account, there is a strong correlation there with independent thinking.

I became aware of Bitcoin because Paypal interfered with my ability to help fund a journalism platform which was one of the relatively few which I had respect for at the time.  That would be wikileaks.  Paypal telling me what I could and could not support with my own fuckin money pissed me off quite a lot, and I already understood what a scam the debt-based fiat money system was at that time.

The above was 2010.  Unfortunately I didn't immediately get around to compiling the code and CPU mining.  Oh well.  As for mainstream media, I distrusted it before the election of 2000, but the going's on with Bush/Gore really opened my eyes to what a corrupt mess the media was and how phony the 'two-party' charade is.  I've never paid any attention to them since except for things like the weather or earthquake footage and such.

When I do watch or read mainstream media (for the last 20 years now!) it has always been to analyze how they are spinning things in order to understand what is really going on and what the priorities of the ruling classes are.

[styca]

When I do watch or read mainstream media (for the last 20 years now!) it has always been to analyze how they are spinning things in order to understand what is really going on and what the priorities of the ruling classes are.

Yes, I am exactly the same. The scary thing for me though is that I am sure that mainstream media still has an effect on my thinking. Particularly advertising, at a subconscious level. The manipulation is becoming more sophisticated and more nuanced, particularly with social media sites like Facebook and their (successful) attempts to nudge people into desired behaviour patterns.

[Bttzed03]

I rarely watch TV/news nowadays and it's one of the best decisions I've had. I realized that they have been showing me a lot of negative craps for years.

[Spendulus]

I changed one item in the poll.

FROM: "No TV for me!"
TO: "No TV News for me!"

So for the results are quite surprising.

[tvbcof]

I changed one item in the poll.

FROM: "No TV for me!"
TO: "No TV News for me!"

So for the results are quite surprising.

They surprise me too.  I don't think there is a big enough sample size and/or enough honesty.  Based on the content I'm sure that 90% of the forum participants spend more than a little time in front of the zio-con owned idiot box.

You should have made an addition rather than a substitution.  'Entertainment' is at least as mind-shattering as 'news' in mainstream media-land.  It would be interesting to know (or think we know) how many people avoid both.

[chaoscoinz]

Okay, this may seem silly.

No cause or effect is ascertained by this poll!

Regardless...

Someone recently pointed out that people in the crypto world are likely not typical consumer "TV watchers."

Is this true or are we the same as the rest?

Any suggestion on how to handle international outside of USA?

To speak for myself, I don't watch a lot of television broadcasting stations and got rid of cable years ago. I'm more of a streamer than anything. When I do watch TV it is usually Netflix or Prime Video through the Roku Box or the Amazon Fire-stick. I find my self watch documentaries or 1-on-1 tutorials or guides on YouTube and try to keep my viewing habits to educational  programming if possible. Every now and then I watch a fw music videos. I usually watch TV in the morning just for the local news in order to find out whats happening around my neighborhood and the surrounding areas.
 

[yazher]

I'm only interested in Sports news since I cannot watch all the games I want at once. They seem reliable with this kind of information, but about politics and others, No! I don't want to hear from them anymore. I'm thankful for the social media creator because of them we know that the media are not a trusted source of giving information. News from the different part of the world are doctored, most of them are biased. They only broadcast what they think is right, the rest are news blackout.

[electronicash]

i'm a typical tv news watcher as will really be affected to news that doesn't go along with the politicians i support. if a news somehow supports Trump, i might just ignore it and even express my opinion about it even when the news isn't crypto related. but will also switch to another channel because its just more fun to watch Family guy than news. news are often lies orchestrated to make those people look good or look bad when motivations are there.

[Bightening]

Let’s take the ongoing protests in Hong Kong as an example. Visit the social media/website of any major news in your area and you get the impression that the Hong Kong Protest, US-CHINA Trade wars and the ISIS fightings are the biggest stories in the world right now. But Are They?
An Analysis shows that the US is the focal point for headlines over the decades. With countries like China, Iraq, North Korea, Hong Kong(just recently) and Afghanistan appearing in US-related international News and articles. Conflict zones in Nigeria, DRC Congo, Sub Saharan Africa and South America receive little or no attention in the media.

Here’s a map of the world if it was as painted looking at the number of times an influential media, The British Guardian Newspaper mentioned each region.


It’s important you rethink, next time you read the news.