Cryptotalk 1 BTC Contest Manipulation

[Doxiva]

I am member of the cryptotalk forum. Let me share some insights of their 1 BTC posting competition.
The beginning was by another member- https://cryptotalk.org/topic/16609-unusual-statistics-in-post-deletion
Later, I took some closer look onto this.
According to that stats, it's almost sure that the moderators are manipulating the contest. All the moderators are Russian and they are not deleting Russian Posts at all. You can check the stats there,

Aren't they spamming? Posting 100+ posts daily isn't easy, impossible in fact, and they are spamming, no doubts.

Here is stats of one user.
Topic created by Dimarrik- https://archive.is/FvASc
Most active topic(47 pages of reply)- https://archive.is/SLsWR
The topic title- Have you tried to bring friends to the crypto?
Topic translated into English, (google translator)-

I think this is relevant when a person himself learned about the crypt, got some success, saw a native and his eyes began to burn. (I got closer and it was) Immediately, of course, there was a desire for close friends to tell and convey all these sensations that crypto is a bomb!)

So, according to my stories, friends entered the world of crypto, someone just said no, all garbage is uninteresting. True, successes did not work out, altzyme began and most simply left the market, and never returned. True, now when there was a growth in the cue ball - one of them tried to ask questions a little. And this is to the point that so far there is such a tyagomotin - for many it’s not interesting, when we go 20k there they’ll run to buy a trip with pleasure 😂

How are you with a similar theme?

PS. The main thing is to immediately say that it’s a risky business, otherwise you can lose friends.

This topic got 47 pages of reply, no spam there 

I am not saying that English section generating spam. Of course it does, but Russian section also generating a lot of spam while Russian spams are not getting deleted, English is being deleted all the times.
It's obvious that there forum moderation is in question. Moderators are manipulating the contest, probably for their self benefits, who knows.
I would post it in cryptotalk but it seems moderators and the new admin doesn't want discussion on it, may be because it help force them to delete the posts from Russian spammers.

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[suchmoon]

I'm shocked that a forum paying 10 cents per post and giving a 1 BTC prize for most posts would have spam and cheating in it. Unthinkable. Wouldn't the greatest writers in history rise from their graves to fill that forum with masterpieces?

[yahoo62278]

I dont normally responded to people crying when they dont use their main account like sissies. Not like anyone is going to care if you complain about cryptotalk contests on your main account t and retaliate against you.

Regardless, it's a contest offering a damn 9000$ prize. Of course there are going to be cheaters. I'm sure there are multiple groups with multiple accounts making useless posts hoping to win.

You shouldn't come here crying because posts in russian sections aren't being deleted. Report the posts if you feel like they're spam. Crying here wont change anything. The admins are Russians correct? I would assume they understand the russian posts and don't consider them spam.

Just an fyi did you read the contest rules? Only 30 posts per day count. The posts that have been deleted for other users were probably reported as spam. Maybe noone has reported russian posts.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I'm shocked that a forum paying 10 cents per post and giving a 1 BTC prize for most posts would have spam and cheating in it. Unthinkable. Wouldn't the greatest writers in history rise from their graves to fill that forum with masterpieces?

LOL.  I could have predicted exactly what your sarcasm stated, because about two years ago there was someone who started a forum where members were paid to post, and it not only turned out to be a complete scam after it got started, but it basically skimmed the worst of the worst members from bitcointalk off the bottom of the crap-barrel and had only them for members.  Needless to say, there wasn't much discussion going on there except about getting paid.

I don't know if the scam accusation presented here is true or not, but it really wouldn't surprise me in the least.  I haven't visited that site and I don't plan to.  They're getting paid 10 cents per post?  That's pretty low, but I'm sure it attracted those people who are desperate for crypto gambling money.  Betcha it's a shit show so far, am I right?

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Nobody is criticizing you for your campaign management, I don't think.  Keep givin' 'em hell, Yahoo62278.

[yahoo62278]

I'm shocked that a forum paying 10 cents per post and giving a 1 BTC prize for most posts would have spam and cheating in it. Unthinkable. Wouldn't the greatest writers in history rise from their graves to fill that forum with masterpieces?

LOL.  I could have predicted exactly what your sarcasm stated, because about two years ago there was someone who started a forum where members were paid to post, and it not only turned out to be a complete scam after it got started, but it basically skimmed the worst of the worst members from bitcointalk off the bottom of the crap-barrel and had only them for members.  Needless to say, there wasn't much discussion going on there except about getting paid.

I don't know if the scam accusation presented here is true or not, but it really wouldn't surprise me in the least.  I haven't visited that site and I don't plan to.  They're getting paid 10 cents per post?  That's pretty low, but I'm sure it attracted those people who are desperate for crypto gambling money.  Betcha it's a shit show so far, am I right?

There are a good chunk of crap topics but that is to be expected for the duration of this contest IMO.

Not saying there aren't some decent topics as well, but a good portion of the users seem to be only worried about getting paid and the contest.

The real test for that forum is going to be when they end the contest. Will they continue the pay per post campaign? Will the traffic die?

I have no issues with that forum but it would be good to see some real discussions happening.

Maybe some of you should have open minds and see if there is anything of value to add without being worried about money? After all, it is a forum and not illegal to be members on multiple forums

[JohnBitCo]

I'm shocked that a forum paying 10 cents per post and giving a 1 BTC prize for most posts would have spam and cheating in it. Unthinkable. Wouldn't the greatest writers in history rise from their graves to fill that forum with masterpieces?

There is nothing to be shocked when it comes to Yobit in terms of money. When they can spend 10 Btc on this forum monthly , 1 Bitcoin is nothing for them.

The campaign had a 10btc budget for the 1st month

I only wonder why they pay so low in their own forum as compare to the rates they pay here. But in any case they are spending BTC like water and I do not think this will help them in anyway in the long run.

[TryNinja]

I only wonder why they pay so low in their own forum as compare to the rates they pay here. But in any case they are spending BTC like water and I do not think this will help them in anyway in the long run.

Too much spam, lol. I just skimmed through their forum and it's 99% garbage. According to the stats panel, there are 239113 posts made in that forum.

Considering that it started 1 month ago, that's 7970 posts per day and their is rate of 0.00001/post, so they paid an average of 0.0797 BTC per day or 2.391 BTC per month. And that's with a payment of 0.00001 BTC/post. Imagine if that number was higher.

I can't see the forum surviving after the campaign is over. People are only there to spam and get paid.

[FIFA worldcup]

Considering that it started 1 month ago, that's 7970 posts per day and their is rate of 0.00001/post, so they paid an average of 0.0797 BTC per day or 2.391 BTC per month.

Just for a comparison how many posts are done here on bitcointalk daily ?

LoyceV, as always will help us again on this stat. 

[suchmoon]

Maybe some of you should have open minds and see if there is anything of value to add without being worried about money? After all, it is a forum and not illegal to be members on multiple forums

I can't blame you for being optimistic about your employer but I think Yobit is trying way too hard to fill their forum with worthless crap. Don't get me wrong, promoting the forum here is a shrewd idea. Cryptotalk has some rules that if enforced properly would appeal to a lot of Bitcointalk users who might be disappointed in the uber-anarchist nature of this forum:

https://cryptotalk.org/topic/207-general-rules-of-cryptotalkorg-forum-official/

1. Political discussions are prohibited. No talk of war. No talk of violence. No talk of narcotic substances. Manifestations of racism and xenophobia are prohibited.

2. Abusive expressions in any form are prohibited. It is forbidden to offend other members of the forum.

3. Threats to other forum participants in any form are prohibited.

4. Using multiple accounts is prohibited.

But at the same they incentivize posts on that forum with the measly 10 cents per post (so obviously filled by farmers with zero value garbage) and moderation is spotty at best. Granted, idiotic rules like "Using multiple accounts is prohibited" are not enforceable, not without invasive KYC anyway. However they're not even trying to enforce the ones that they can. There are mountains of garbage that would make Bitcointalk signature spam look deep and insightful. Just a random example from the front-page:

https://cryptotalk.org/topic/12119-is-gamling-addiction/

I mean if I wanted to post in a place like this I could just go to the Gambling Discussion board here and immerse myself in that dumpster without having to create a new account.

[LoyceV]

I'm shocked that a forum paying 10 cents per post and giving a 1 BTC prize for most posts would have spam and cheating in it. Unthinkable. Wouldn't the greatest writers in history rise from their graves to fill that forum with masterpieces?

Lol
I actually considered spending a month just to get their 1 BTC, but OP's accusation is exactly what I expected and why I didn't even bother.

Considering that it started 1 month ago, that's 7970 posts per day

Bitcointalk has just over 10,000 posts per day (it was under 10,000 per day before Yobit started it's campaign).
If they're close to the same number of posts just for their campaign, that can't be good for quality.

https://cryptotalk.org/topic/207-general-rules-of-cryptotalkorg-forum-official/

It is forbidden to offend other members of the forum.

Being offensive is subjective, so anyone can claim anything is offensive and therefore against the rules? That's dumb, I'm offended by that rule!

[hacker1001101001]

By looking at some of the comments there and users observations, I can say there is a slit slip through for Russian spam posters there as they too are producing a hell lot of spam on this said to be HIGH PAYING FORUM and still getting off it.

I even don't support promoting it here as it is surely harming bitcointalk forum's health in one way or the other. ( no offence to the manager its just want I think )

about two years ago there was someone who started a forum where members were paid to post, and it not only turned out to be a complete scam after it got started, but it basically skimmed the worst of the worst members from bitcointalk off the bottom of the crap-barrel and had only them for members.  Needless to say, there wasn't much discussion going on there except about getting paid.

If I get you correctly, it was ICOforums.net and they had a bounty campaign here which was surely a pain in ass due to its generated spam. Still even after spending large amount of ETH for the promotion they were just buried and ended up with no real and valuable discussion on the forum. I could see the same story here too.

[yahoo62278]

I even don't support promoting it here as it is surely harming bitcointalk forum's health in one way or the other. ( no offence to the manager its just want I think )

No offense taken, you're allowed to have an opinion.

[hugeblack]

We will not create a forum with healthy discussions. If the main purpose of posting is to get paid, people will stop once the money is over.
Despite the activity of this forum, serious discussion boards did not contain much discussion.
I do not know any reason to pay 1BTC credibly, if they wanted to do so they would have chosen a reliable third party to lead the process.

I think they are betting on getting enough traffic to post the ads and thus continue the promotion.

[hacker1001101001]

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No offense taken, you're allowed to have an opinion.

Thanks to Bitcointalk forums free of speech rules.. Or else I just can't stop laughing by reading the rules on Cryptotalk.

It is forbidden to offend other members of the forum.

WTF !  

[suchmoon]

Being offensive is subjective, so anyone can claim anything is offensive and therefore against the rules? That's dumb, I'm offended by that rule!

I think it's a bit of a translation issue and it's meant to address the intent rather than what someone feels. Admins seem to be Russian, so this might be due to the difference between words like "ocкopблять" / "ocкopбить", or "oбижaть" / "oбидeть" , both of which Google translates as "offend" but the meaning is not the same. In other words, if I call someone a turd waffle it's probably going to break that rule even if the target of that expression doesn't feel offended. It should be reworded to something like "forbidden to attack other members of the forum", "or "insult" or whatever.

That's just my speculation though, because I don't really see those rules being consistently enforced there.

[LoyceV]

It should be reworded to something like "forbidden to attack other members of the forum", "or "insult" or whatever.

It still sounds a lot like Social Justice Warrior forum, I don't like it. I'm not usually going nuts at insulting people, but I love having the freedom do do so. What's left of a forum about crypto if you can't even have freedom of speech?

[suchmoon]

It should be reworded to something like "forbidden to attack other members of the forum", "or "insult" or whatever.

It still sounds a lot like Social Justice Warrior forum, I don't like it. I'm not usually going nuts at insulting people, but I love having the freedom do do so. What's left of a forum about crypto if you can't even have freedom of speech?

I've been on a biker forum (long story), name escapes me know, that had a similar rule of no insults towards one's person or their choice of transportation. Some people get their fix of "freedom" IRL and go online to escape from that I guess.

And why the fuck are you making me defend cryptotalk?!!!@#!#@

[LoyceV]

And why the fuck are you making me defend cryptotalk?!!!@#!#@

Your offensive language hurts my feelings @%&^(@#^)

[suchmoon]

And why the fuck are you making me defend cryptotalk?!!!@#!#@

Your offensive language hurts my feelings @%&^(@#^)

Oh well, there goes my chance to win 1 BTC - now I'll never be accepted to Cryptotalk and it's all your fault

[webtricks]

^^ ^^
You two should get a room.