Adult woman asks for help with btc withdrawal. Thank you than I can

[helenmanasir79]

Good day! My name is Helen Manasir. I’m 40 years old. It so happened that I had 2 sons, but 2 months ago my eldest died of lung cancer. It was a very heavy loss, I could not believe it and so far it seems to me that this is not true. This is a very big loss. I did not have time to move away from this grief. As 2 weeks ago my youngest son had an accident, I'm just in shock. I barely speak and write messages. My life just doesn't make sense anymore. I spent all my savings playing a beautiful funeral for my boys. At the moment I don’t have any money left, just a little 1-2 months of food, I don’t know what to do next. My husband is disabled, I need expensive pills and vaccines. I know that the eldest one was engaged in cryptocurrency, but I'm probably a bad mom and generally do not know how to work with it. This is my last hope and last chance to live and eat. My youngest son has about 5 bitcoins in his wallet. This is all that remains of the youngest son. But I just don’t understand what to do with it and how to turn it into real money, please help me please, I will be very grateful and I will definitely thank you for something.

Text me please in Telegram: @helenmanasir_1 or on Mail my husband: Johnbekker@zohomail.eu

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[BitMaxz]

Be careful if someone contacted you with the email you provided above and telling that they can help you there is a high risk that you can be scam if you give the details of your son's wallet.

Much better to stay ask help here on the forum than outside from this forum.

Anyway, Let me ask if what wallet that 5 BTC stored?
If you have access to the wallet you can send it to local exchanges in your country where you can sell it into real money.
Just tell us more about the wallet and if you have access to this wallet?  and let me know where do you live?

So that we can guide you the right way how to exchange it into real money.

[bitmover]

First thing I can say is:

Be careful, do not accept anyone trying to help you via private messages or via email (as they will likely be scammers)

And second thing:

Nobody should send any email or private message to this person, as this person (OP) could really be a scammer.

So, what to do?

Everyone should make all discussions here public.

I can help you, but only in public posts here in this forum.
Do you have 12/24 words seed? Those words are the best way to access your bitcoins. Just download Electrum.org and insert your words there. Then send those funds to Coinbase, or any other great exchange in your country (like bitstamp, kraken, whatever) and sell those bitcoins for Fiat (about 50,000 USD now).

[jackg]

If you need any help feel free to send me a pm or telegram, no one here should really handle your wallet files with the 5btc stored in them, but perhaps you could send a screenshot of where they're listed so we can best help you? A picture of the window is all we really need.

State your country and we can help you try to conver them (check what the best exchange is in that country and also help you to send your funds to it and ensure your connection is as secure as it can be).

Also, I'd recommend using 5 or 10 chunks when sending funds since they're such a high value for the exchange to receive, they might not have all that money in their hot wallet sand there may be trouble with the transaction (if one bounces then you have to contact their support and wait a few days, but if the same happens and you already took out 2BTC worth then it's much less stressful.

[creepyjas]

First of all, my deepest condolences to you OP.


OP: This is very frustrating to you and my only advise is do not let anyone handle the private keys/or wallet for you. The only help you could get from here is the advise from the forum people. There’s a lot of articles here where you can learn how to handle the withdrawal on yoir own.

For all: Please do not engage thru private conversation, this could be a trap. The only thing you can do is give her the best advise what to do and where o start. This type of posts are too shady.

I hope you get the help you need, OP.

[Laskoo]

First of all condolences for your children, I bet this is very hard for you. 
Like other forum members said, try to stay in here as there are many good intended people than outside this forum, but always stay vigilant.
One suggestion is to contact a well known member who provides Escrow services, in this way you'll know your funds are in safe hands.
Here is a list of recommended escrow services: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910.0

[Dogboy714]

I love the open hearts here, but this is an obvious scammer. Stay vigilant my friends...

[Taskford]

Good day! My name is Helen Manasir. I’m 40 years old. It so happened that I had 2 sons, but 2 months ago my eldest died of lung cancer. It was a very heavy loss, I could not believe it and so far it seems to me that this is not true. This is a very big loss. I did not have time to move away from this grief. As 2 weeks ago my youngest son had an accident, I'm just in shock. I barely speak and write messages. My life just doesn't make sense anymore. I spent all my savings playing a beautiful funeral for my boys. At the moment I don’t have any money left, just a little 1-2 months of food, I don’t know what to do next. My husband is disabled, I need expensive pills and vaccines. I know that the eldest one was engaged in cryptocurrency, but I'm probably a bad mom and generally do not know how to work with it. This is my last hope and last chance to live and eat. My youngest son has about 5 bitcoins in his wallet. This is all that remains of the youngest son. But I just don’t understand what to do with it and how to turn it into real money, please help me please, I will be very grateful and I will definitely thank you for something.

Text me please in Telegram: @helenmanasir_1 or on Mail my husband: Johnbekker@zohomail.eu

I will not suggest you to come here since there are so many scammers around that will take advantage for situation, and the best thing for you to do now is to contact the neighbor nor the friends of your son who is engaged with cryptocurrency and by then he/she can help you to get and encashed the 5 BTC remains of your son safely.

[erickastella]

I am sorry for the departure of your son, I can only pray from here, you try to log on the local market exchange in your country.
if you have a bitcoin private key you can login using trustwallet which can be downloaded at PlayStore then you can sell and deposit it to the local market exchange in your country.
and please be careful not to send emails haphazardly because these emails could have been sent phishing or things that are dangerous for people who intend evil

[lobat999]

I don't like to sound very rude but I want to ask if your youngest son is still alive since you didn't specify what happened after his accident? If not, then how did you know he has 5 Bitcoins in his wallet since you've stated that you "don't know how to work with it"?

Forgive me if I have offended you but the least I could say If what you are telling is true, is that I think it is  much better if you can find a person you personally knew and can be trusted like a close relative who are also into cryptocurrency and can probably help you with your issue. Imho.

[Casdinyard]

Seriously? Another newbie account again making their selves pitiful. Is this the trend now?

Pretty sure it's another scam attempt whoever will fall to their trap moreover asking if she can just sell the 5btc account to 2.5btc or at least lend nor deposit her some money. What's next then? Nothing new, anyway.

Little you can do now is to find something on your son's things that might contain important information ( like a notebook ) and look for someone that you can trust, whether your neighbor or friend that is familiar with crypto.


Nice.

[helenmanasir79]

Thanks to all those who responded with help, I read everything and your advice is very valuable to me. But unfortunately I am a very primitive computer user. And all I can do is use a browser and mail, a little messenger. I really don’t understand anything about it. I will be glad to care people who will respond to my plea for help, you have a wonderful forum. Thank! God exists.

[Saint-loup]

Good day! My name is Helen Manasir. I’m 40 years old. It so happened that I had 2 sons, but 2 months ago my eldest died of lung cancer. It was a very heavy loss, I could not believe it and so far it seems to me that this is not true. This is a very big loss. I did not have time to move away from this grief. As 2 weeks ago my youngest son had an accident, I'm just in shock. I barely speak and write messages. My life just doesn't make sense anymore. I spent all my savings playing a beautiful funeral for my boys. At the moment I don’t have any money left, just a little 1-2 months of food, I don’t know what to do next. My husband is disabled, I need expensive pills and vaccines. I know that the eldest one was engaged in cryptocurrency, but I'm probably a bad mom and generally do not know how to work with it. This is my last hope and last chance to live and eat. My youngest son has about 5 bitcoins in his wallet. This is all that remains of the youngest son. But I just don’t understand what to do with it and how to turn it into real money, please help me please, I will be very grateful and I will definitely thank you for something.

Text me please in Telegram: @helenmanasir_1 or on Mail my husband: Johnbekker@zohomail.eu

I'm sorry for this awful tragedy. But you don't explain us if you are in possession of the seed of your son's wallet. A seed is a word sequence of 12-24words usually with these english words https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt

[DdmrDdmr]

Be very wary with this sort of pleads for help, wrapped in a drama situation to soften the reader. The likely outcome is that anyone who tries to engage in a private conversation will receive an "irresistible" offer to swipe those alleged 5 BTCs from their hands in exchange for some other sort of crypto or cash in some form.

Now if the OP comes back to the thread with compelling arguments and convinces us of the opposite, then so be it, but we know it’s not going to happen.

[Saint-loup]

I love the open hearts here, but this is an obvious scammer. Stay vigilant my friends...

I'm sorry but if other beginners read this kind of comment, they'll never dare to post here. I think only advanced users should try to privately help newcomers but you don't need to be rude here. You can stay vigilant and assuming the good faith of the newcomers when you're replying to them.

[jseverson]

In the off chance that this is legit, your best chance to recover the coins are probably by using this service:

https://walletrecoveryservices.com/
Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240779.0

As for everyone else, don't send this person money under any circumstance unless you 100% believe her story and are solely doing it for charity. If she is really in the circumstance she says she's in, she'll try to get help from an actual professional with a good track record. if Dave from above link can't do it, there's probably zero chance of recovering the coins.

[Rikafip]

Seriously? Another newbie account again making their selves pitiful. Is this the trend now?

Pretty sure it's another scam attempt whoever will fall to their trap moreover asking if she can just sell the 5btc account to 2.5btc or at least lend nor deposit her some money. What's next then? Nothing new, anyway.

Little you can do now is to find something on your son's things that might contain important information ( like a notebook ) and look for someone that you can trust, whether your neighbor or friend that is familiar with crypto.


Nice.

I smell BS here as well.

Be careful everyone, this is where "Helen Manasir" took  Telegram profile pic from



https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/hollyoaks/a840185/hollyoaks-frankie-osborne-exit-helen-pearson-johnno-dean-colin-wells/

Seems like it's an actress Hellen Pearson from some  Brittish soap opera called "Hollyoaks"

[lobat999]

Be very wary with this sort of pleads for help, wrapped in a drama situation to soften the reader. The likely outcome is that anyone who tries to engage in a private conversation will receive an "irresistible" offer to swipe those alleged 5 BTCs from their hands in exchange for some other sort of crypto or cash in some form.

Now if the OP comes back to the thread with compelling arguments and convinces us of the opposite, then so be it, but we know it’s not going to happen.

That is what I'm thinking! Maybe the OP should modify her script and tell us a more convincing story because I believe there are conflicting statements around story and we ought to be very cautious about it.

In fact the OP didn't reply  or didn't provide further clarifications to my previous inquiry above which I find rather unusual if she is indeed needs the help of the community.

I smell BS here as well.

Be careful everyone, this is where "Helen Manasir" took  Telegram profile pic from



https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/hollyoaks/a840185/hollyoaks-frankie-osborne-exit-helen-pearson-johnno-dean-colin-wells/

Seems like it's an actress Hellen Pearson from some  Brittish soap opera called "Hollyoaks"

Lol. The cryptocommunity has been already fed up with different kinds of scam that this kind of modus operandi will not likely  prosper.

[creepyjas]

Seriously? Another newbie account again making their selves pitiful. Is this the trend now?

Pretty sure it's another scam attempt whoever will fall to their trap moreover asking if she can just sell the 5btc account to 2.5btc or at least lend nor deposit her some money. What's next then? Nothing new, anyway.

Little you can do now is to find something on your son's things that might contain important information ( like a notebook ) and look for someone that you can trust, whether your neighbor or friend that is familiar with crypto.


Nice.

I smell BS here as well.

Be careful everyone, this is where "Helen Manasir" took  Telegram profile pic from



https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/hollyoaks/a840185/hollyoaks-frankie-osborne-exit-helen-pearson-johnno-dean-colin-wells/

Seems like it's an actress Hellen Pearson from some  Brittish soap opera called "Hollyoaks"

Well, this explains everything. This is obviously a scam and people should be aware in the first place.

Easily click “report” at the bottom. This post should not stay here any longer.

[DdmrDdmr]

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Well, this explains everything. This is obviously a scam and people should be aware in the first place.
Easily click "report" at the bottom. This post should not stay here any longer.

Scams are not moderated on the forum, therefore reporting the OP for being an alleged scam should have no real effect. Were it to break any other rule, then by all means report, but, as yet, I don’t think it has.

In my opinion, what’s been done so far is correct: people have spoken-up to warn on the possible intent behind trying to lure people to private communication channels. It is perhaps not yet flagrant enough to add a negative trust rating (*), and a bit less distant from a yellow flag. Nevertheless, if anyone considers these may apply, then go ahead.

(*) The name and surname do not necessarily mean the OP is impersonating the actress (could be a coincidence).

[tmfp]

Good day!<snip>

Whenever I read this sort of scam, the sort that references children and cancer and accidents, I find myself wishing all sorts of terrible things on the scammer.

[crairezx20]

How did you guys know that she is a scammer? Weird she is looking for help here to withdraw or how to exchange the 5btc from his child wallet.

Did you guys try to contact the email? or the telegram?

Maybe she is telling the truth.

To keep everything safe all conversation should be posted here or in public don't deal with newbie only high-rank members and trusted members should be trusted here if she is planning to share info of her child wallet.

[Podol_eos]

Good day! My name is Helen Manasir. I’m 40 years old. It so happened that I had 2 sons, but 2 months ago my eldest died of lung cancer. It was a very heavy loss, I could not believe it and so far it seems to me that this is not true. This is a very big loss. I did not have time to move away from this grief. As 2 weeks ago my youngest son had an accident, I'm just in shock. I barely speak and write messages. My life just doesn't make sense anymore. I spent all my savings playing a beautiful funeral for my boys. At the moment I don’t have any money left, just a little 1-2 months of food, I don’t know what to do next. My husband is disabled, I need expensive pills and vaccines. I know that the eldest one was engaged in cryptocurrency, but I'm probably a bad mom and generally do not know how to work with it. This is my last hope and last chance to live and eat. My youngest son has about 5 bitcoins in his wallet. This is all that remains of the youngest son. But I just don’t understand what to do with it and how to turn it into real money, please help me please, I will be very grateful and I will definitely thank you for something.

Text me please in Telegram: @helenmanasir_1 or on Mail my husband: Johnbekker@zohomail.eu

It looks like scam in 1990+ " I am a lawyer from Zimbabwe... Sent me your ID card...

[UserU]

How did you guys know that she is a scammer? Weird she is looking for help here to withdraw or how to exchange the 5btc from his child wallet.

Did you guys try to contact the email? or the telegram?

Maybe she is telling the truth.

To keep everything safe all conversation should be posted here or in public don't deal with newbie only high-rank members and trusted members should be trusted here if she is planning to share info of her child wallet.

Lots of red flags:
1) Of all places, Bitcointalk
2) A sob story from the start
3) Straight away gives social contact

And funnily some even thought it was an email template :facepalm:

[helenmanasir79]

it is very easy to judge this when you are doing well, I do not ask you for money and financial assistance, I just ask you to help withdraw the money. All.

[Kakmakr]

it is very easy to judge this when you are doing well, I do not ask you for money and financial assistance, I just ask you to help withdraw the money. All.

You are not thinking straight. You are opening yourself up to a lot of harm, because you are giving out way too much personal information on a forum full of scammers. The scammer <not everyone on the forum> will use that information to track you down and to get to those coins. <It is worth about $46,260 at today's price>

There are some very knowledgeable people on this forum, with a very good reputation like DannyHamilton --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60820 that would give you genuine information. Send him a private PM and ask him if he would be willing to help you.  

Sorry for your loss.

Ps.. If this is a scam, you will seriously regret it, because the people will pull you apart.

[Rikafip]

So i contacted her yesterday through Telegram, and here is  the info she shared so far




So based on this, she has email that is russian, yandex.ru. I found it weird that UK guy would use something like that for exchange registration, but that's just me i guess, and seems she has password too. And  surprisingly, she found on her son's laptop some webpage with coinpays.uk on it. coinpays.uk is some kind of exchange that i couldn't even find on CMC or  Coingecko, and i seriously doubt that her son would hold 5 BTC on some shady exchange.Maybe someone else knows more about this exchange?

I don't know about you, but for me this is  a pure scam, simply too many red flags.

edit:archived this thread
https://archive.md/9dtVS

[DdmrDdmr]

The site seems to have been registered on the 10th of October 2019 (see http://www.simplywhois.com/whois/coinpays.uk) and ScamAdvisor is not too happy either (https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/coinpays.uk). No way this is for real.

The site is a cloned derivate of anotherone that is not online now:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://bitschain.net
(the data on both sites are the same)

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@Rikafip , where you directed to do something, or you just left it there?

[Rikafip]

The site seems to have been registered on the 10th of October 2019 (see http://www.simplywhois.com/whois/coinpays.uk) and ScamAdvisor is not too happy either (https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/coinpays.uk). No way this is for real.

The site is a cloned derivate of anotherone that is not online now:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://bitschain.net
(the data on both sites are the same)

<...>

@Rikafip , where you directed to do something, or you just left it there?

Nah, i didn't do anything else. My idea how this would play out is that i would log in, and there would be 4.9 BTC or some similar amount and then minimum withdrawal would be 5 BTC , or some similar story with missing some BTC to be able to withdraw. Since OP doesn't know anything about BTC, she would probably offer me to add  BTC that is missing and in return i would get part of that 5 BTC.

edit:now you got me curious if i'm correct, gonna contact her now 

[Suslived]

Kudos to the guy who found the image! I knew that paragraph sounded sketchy and too desperate, especially with the part saying "this is my last chance to eat and live" like WTF, everyone is dead and you still want to eat and live? If that'd happened to me I'd be too sad as fuck to even think of going online more less going to an online bitcoin forum and begging for help.

Scammers these days.. Tsk tsk karma will get you one day!

[Laskoo]

So i contacted her yesterday through Telegram, and here is  the info she shared so far

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So based on this, she has email that is russian, yandex.ru. I found it weird that UK guy would use something like that for exchange registration, but that's just me i guess, and seems she has password too. And  surprisingly, she found on her son's laptop some webpage with coinpays.uk on it. coinpays.uk is some kind of exchange that i couldn't even find on CMC or  Coingecko, and i seriously doubt that her son would hold 5 BTC on some shady exchange.Maybe someone else knows more about this exchange?

I don't know about you, but for me this is  a pure scam, simply too many red flags.

edit:archived this thread
https://archive.md/9dtVS

Hmmm this is really strange indeed, and yes, it smells like something is not good.
What I can suggest: Do NOT log in with the credentials provided into any exchange or website because the account may be involved in some scams or illegal activities and you can get in trouble.
No one should try to log in so is better to censor the credentials or part of them.
Stay safe!

[tmfp]

The site seems to have been registered on the 10th of October 2019 (see http://www.simplywhois.com/whois/coinpays.uk) and ScamAdvisor is not too happy either (https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/coinpays.uk). No way this is for real.

The site is a cloned derivate of anotherone that is not online now:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://bitschain.net
(the data on both sites are the same)

The coinpays.uk (Fixxtrade) company registration is fake.
There are a number of associated scam and phishing sites (e.g. cryptonex, swithcoin, coinbascet), a Reddit scam post about "Jaxon Strickland" and a thread on the forum based on the same fake company registration number used in an attempted Gdax clone scam.

So, what do we have?

A fabricated sob story which, as soon as it gets a naive fish on its hook, introduces a scam exchange into the equation, which is part of a systemic pattern of attempted fraud and theft.
Quite how the White Knight actually gets ripped off from here on I don't know, but ripped off he unquestionably will be.

Here's hoping the scammers behind this will suffer the invented fate of the OP's two imaginary sons.
I am raising a flag on this in the hope that, seeing it is in the Newbie Section, this thread will be read and understood and the meaning of the phrase "Don't trust, verify" will be comprehended more widely.

Scammer flag here, should you wish to support it. Or if you are terminally naive, you can oppose it.

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=927

[DdmrDdmr]

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I was halfway through creating one (intended to finish it at lunchtime, and reference a (not yet created not will be now) thread on Reputation), but since you’ve beaten me to the line, I’ll stick to supporting yours.

[tmfp]

<…>

I was halfway through creating one (intended to finish it at lunchtime, and reference a (not yet created not will be now) thread on Reputation), but since you’ve beaten me to the line, I’ll stick to supporting yours.

It's lunchtime here already. 
Up to you, but I doubt the need for cluttering up Reputation with a reference to a throwaway account that we won't hear of again.
Might be worth pulling all the different fake websites together for a Scam Accusation, maybe based on the repeated use of the Jaxon Strickland character.
Or maybe see where the Reddit leads go 

discord: SRLORD#5886, twitch: skadilodr, steam account: Merkyrial.

I have a bit of a backlog of time consuming scam analyses atm tho, so I won't be doing it for a while.

[jackg]

edit:now you got me curious if i'm correct, gonna contact her now 

Did you get anywhere with that? You should've tried logging onto the site. Though that is probably excatly how it would go.

Her broken english didn't seem very broken a few things seemed amiss with the OP (didn't want to say it until they were proven to be a scammer - just in case I was wrong)... 

Edit: aha I got it! The tone completely changes from start to finish about half way through as I read it... I read things alloud in my head and it started off broken and seemed to fix itself further down.

I supported that flag (posting that here because it's late and I might have accidentally clicked oppose) - not sure if my support does too much though it at least adds another member if anyone clicks it.

[Rikafip]

edit:now you got me curious if i'm correct, gonna contact her now 

Did you get anywhere with that? You should've tried logging onto the site. Though that is probably excatly how it would go.

Her broken english didn't seem very broken a few things seemed amiss with the OP (didn't want to say it until they were proven to be a scammer - just in case I was wrong)... 

Edit: aha I got it! The tone completely changes from start to finish about half way through as I read it... I read things alloud in my head and it started off broken and seemed to fix itself further down.

I supported that flag (posting that here because it's late and I might have accidentally clicked oppose) - not sure if my support does too much though it at least adds another member if anyone clicks it.

No, she didn't reply to me, i guess she saw in this thread that we figured her out. But email and password are  there, so everyone is free to try log in

Worst thing is, even though this was a bad scam attempt, there are people that will fall for this, there are bunch of people that wouldn't think someone would make up this kind of back story.

[Lafu]

If i read this whole thread it smells for sure that its a scam attempt in someway.
Besides the story can be true or not but in my opinion its scam as a normal human that have no clue about all this things would be share more details.
And also there would be more replys in here from her as the things that she has written.

[jackg]

Yeah I can't seem to get on that account. Can access the site and that's it...

Looks like an awful homepage (bad animation).

[Drai]

I really don't know the endgame but I know for a fact that this message doesn't appear as it seems ,it's basically a Cryptocurrency version of the "rich princess scam story" and it seems people are already lining up to help, I would advice everyone to stay far away from this to avoid getting scammed in some way.