Adult woman asks for help with btc withdrawal. Thank you than I can

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Good day!<snip>

Whenever I read this sort of scam, the sort that references children and cancer and accidents, I find myself wishing all sorts of terrible things on the scammer.

[crairezx20]

How did you guys know that she is a scammer? Weird she is looking for help here to withdraw or how to exchange the 5btc from his child wallet.

Did you guys try to contact the email? or the telegram?

Maybe she is telling the truth.

To keep everything safe all conversation should be posted here or in public don't deal with newbie only high-rank members and trusted members should be trusted here if she is planning to share info of her child wallet.

[Podol_eos]

Good day! My name is Helen Manasir. I’m 40 years old. It so happened that I had 2 sons, but 2 months ago my eldest died of lung cancer. It was a very heavy loss, I could not believe it and so far it seems to me that this is not true. This is a very big loss. I did not have time to move away from this grief. As 2 weeks ago my youngest son had an accident, I'm just in shock. I barely speak and write messages. My life just doesn't make sense anymore. I spent all my savings playing a beautiful funeral for my boys. At the moment I don’t have any money left, just a little 1-2 months of food, I don’t know what to do next. My husband is disabled, I need expensive pills and vaccines. I know that the eldest one was engaged in cryptocurrency, but I'm probably a bad mom and generally do not know how to work with it. This is my last hope and last chance to live and eat. My youngest son has about 5 bitcoins in his wallet. This is all that remains of the youngest son. But I just don’t understand what to do with it and how to turn it into real money, please help me please, I will be very grateful and I will definitely thank you for something.

Text me please in Telegram: @helenmanasir_1 or on Mail my husband: Johnbekker@zohomail.eu

It looks like scam in 1990+ " I am a lawyer from Zimbabwe... Sent me your ID card...

[UserU]

How did you guys know that she is a scammer? Weird she is looking for help here to withdraw or how to exchange the 5btc from his child wallet.

Did you guys try to contact the email? or the telegram?

Maybe she is telling the truth.

To keep everything safe all conversation should be posted here or in public don't deal with newbie only high-rank members and trusted members should be trusted here if she is planning to share info of her child wallet.

Lots of red flags:
1) Of all places, Bitcointalk
2) A sob story from the start
3) Straight away gives social contact

And funnily some even thought it was an email template :facepalm:

[helenmanasir79]

it is very easy to judge this when you are doing well, I do not ask you for money and financial assistance, I just ask you to help withdraw the money. All.

[Kakmakr]

it is very easy to judge this when you are doing well, I do not ask you for money and financial assistance, I just ask you to help withdraw the money. All.

You are not thinking straight. You are opening yourself up to a lot of harm, because you are giving out way too much personal information on a forum full of scammers. The scammer <not everyone on the forum> will use that information to track you down and to get to those coins. <It is worth about $46,260 at today's price>

There are some very knowledgeable people on this forum, with a very good reputation like DannyHamilton --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60820 that would give you genuine information. Send him a private PM and ask him if he would be willing to help you.  

Sorry for your loss.

Ps.. If this is a scam, you will seriously regret it, because the people will pull you apart.

[Rikafip]

So i contacted her yesterday through Telegram, and here is  the info she shared so far




So based on this, she has email that is russian, yandex.ru. I found it weird that UK guy would use something like that for exchange registration, but that's just me i guess, and seems she has password too. And  surprisingly, she found on her son's laptop some webpage with coinpays.uk on it. coinpays.uk is some kind of exchange that i couldn't even find on CMC or  Coingecko, and i seriously doubt that her son would hold 5 BTC on some shady exchange.Maybe someone else knows more about this exchange?

I don't know about you, but for me this is  a pure scam, simply too many red flags.

edit:archived this thread
https://archive.md/9dtVS

[DdmrDdmr]

The site seems to have been registered on the 10th of October 2019 (see http://www.simplywhois.com/whois/coinpays.uk) and ScamAdvisor is not too happy either (https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/coinpays.uk). No way this is for real.

The site is a cloned derivate of anotherone that is not online now:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://bitschain.net
(the data on both sites are the same)

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@Rikafip , where you directed to do something, or you just left it there?

[Rikafip]

The site seems to have been registered on the 10th of October 2019 (see http://www.simplywhois.com/whois/coinpays.uk) and ScamAdvisor is not too happy either (https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/coinpays.uk). No way this is for real.

The site is a cloned derivate of anotherone that is not online now:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://bitschain.net
(the data on both sites are the same)

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@Rikafip , where you directed to do something, or you just left it there?

Nah, i didn't do anything else. My idea how this would play out is that i would log in, and there would be 4.9 BTC or some similar amount and then minimum withdrawal would be 5 BTC , or some similar story with missing some BTC to be able to withdraw. Since OP doesn't know anything about BTC, she would probably offer me to add  BTC that is missing and in return i would get part of that 5 BTC.

edit:now you got me curious if i'm correct, gonna contact her now 

[Suslived]

Kudos to the guy who found the image! I knew that paragraph sounded sketchy and too desperate, especially with the part saying "this is my last chance to eat and live" like WTF, everyone is dead and you still want to eat and live? If that'd happened to me I'd be too sad as fuck to even think of going online more less going to an online bitcoin forum and begging for help.

Scammers these days.. Tsk tsk karma will get you one day!

[Laskoo]

So i contacted her yesterday through Telegram, and here is  the info she shared so far

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So based on this, she has email that is russian, yandex.ru. I found it weird that UK guy would use something like that for exchange registration, but that's just me i guess, and seems she has password too. And  surprisingly, she found on her son's laptop some webpage with coinpays.uk on it. coinpays.uk is some kind of exchange that i couldn't even find on CMC or  Coingecko, and i seriously doubt that her son would hold 5 BTC on some shady exchange.Maybe someone else knows more about this exchange?

I don't know about you, but for me this is  a pure scam, simply too many red flags.

edit:archived this thread
https://archive.md/9dtVS

Hmmm this is really strange indeed, and yes, it smells like something is not good.
What I can suggest: Do NOT log in with the credentials provided into any exchange or website because the account may be involved in some scams or illegal activities and you can get in trouble.
No one should try to log in so is better to censor the credentials or part of them.
Stay safe!

[tmfp]

The site seems to have been registered on the 10th of October 2019 (see http://www.simplywhois.com/whois/coinpays.uk) and ScamAdvisor is not too happy either (https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/coinpays.uk). No way this is for real.

The site is a cloned derivate of anotherone that is not online now:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://bitschain.net
(the data on both sites are the same)

The coinpays.uk (Fixxtrade) company registration is fake.
There are a number of associated scam and phishing sites (e.g. cryptonex, swithcoin, coinbascet), a Reddit scam post about "Jaxon Strickland" and a thread on the forum based on the same fake company registration number used in an attempted Gdax clone scam.

So, what do we have?

A fabricated sob story which, as soon as it gets a naive fish on its hook, introduces a scam exchange into the equation, which is part of a systemic pattern of attempted fraud and theft.
Quite how the White Knight actually gets ripped off from here on I don't know, but ripped off he unquestionably will be.

Here's hoping the scammers behind this will suffer the invented fate of the OP's two imaginary sons.
I am raising a flag on this in the hope that, seeing it is in the Newbie Section, this thread will be read and understood and the meaning of the phrase "Don't trust, verify" will be comprehended more widely.

Scammer flag here, should you wish to support it. Or if you are terminally naive, you can oppose it.

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=927

[DdmrDdmr]

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I was halfway through creating one (intended to finish it at lunchtime, and reference a (not yet created not will be now) thread on Reputation), but since you’ve beaten me to the line, I’ll stick to supporting yours.

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I was halfway through creating one (intended to finish it at lunchtime, and reference a (not yet created not will be now) thread on Reputation), but since you’ve beaten me to the line, I’ll stick to supporting yours.

It's lunchtime here already. 
Up to you, but I doubt the need for cluttering up Reputation with a reference to a throwaway account that we won't hear of again.
Might be worth pulling all the different fake websites together for a Scam Accusation, maybe based on the repeated use of the Jaxon Strickland character.
Or maybe see where the Reddit leads go 

discord: SRLORD#5886, twitch: skadilodr, steam account: Merkyrial.

I have a bit of a backlog of time consuming scam analyses atm tho, so I won't be doing it for a while.

[jackg]

edit:now you got me curious if i'm correct, gonna contact her now 

Did you get anywhere with that? You should've tried logging onto the site. Though that is probably excatly how it would go.

Her broken english didn't seem very broken a few things seemed amiss with the OP (didn't want to say it until they were proven to be a scammer - just in case I was wrong)... 

Edit: aha I got it! The tone completely changes from start to finish about half way through as I read it... I read things alloud in my head and it started off broken and seemed to fix itself further down.

I supported that flag (posting that here because it's late and I might have accidentally clicked oppose) - not sure if my support does too much though it at least adds another member if anyone clicks it.

[Rikafip]

edit:now you got me curious if i'm correct, gonna contact her now 

Did you get anywhere with that? You should've tried logging onto the site. Though that is probably excatly how it would go.

Her broken english didn't seem very broken a few things seemed amiss with the OP (didn't want to say it until they were proven to be a scammer - just in case I was wrong)... 

Edit: aha I got it! The tone completely changes from start to finish about half way through as I read it... I read things alloud in my head and it started off broken and seemed to fix itself further down.

I supported that flag (posting that here because it's late and I might have accidentally clicked oppose) - not sure if my support does too much though it at least adds another member if anyone clicks it.

No, she didn't reply to me, i guess she saw in this thread that we figured her out. But email and password are  there, so everyone is free to try log in

Worst thing is, even though this was a bad scam attempt, there are people that will fall for this, there are bunch of people that wouldn't think someone would make up this kind of back story.

[Lafu]

If i read this whole thread it smells for sure that its a scam attempt in someway.
Besides the story can be true or not but in my opinion its scam as a normal human that have no clue about all this things would be share more details.
And also there would be more replys in here from her as the things that she has written.

[jackg]

Yeah I can't seem to get on that account. Can access the site and that's it...

Looks like an awful homepage (bad animation).

[Drai]

I really don't know the endgame but I know for a fact that this message doesn't appear as it seems ,it's basically a Cryptocurrency version of the "rich princess scam story" and it seems people are already lining up to help, I would advice everyone to stay far away from this to avoid getting scammed in some way.