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November 05, 2019, 07:10:22 PM
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I wonder why nobody here is discussing about the upcoming rematch fight between The Bronze Bomber and the The Real King Kong. Is this rematch battle too long overdue that there is no more hype left? Well, the day is coming near and the battle is definitely going to end with one of them lying on the canvas.

Probably because the talks are already in for the rematch of Wilder and Fury to happen in 2020, I don't know how this works but they already have a agreed fight even before their first bout will happen. Originally the match against Wilder in 2020 was meant for Dillian Whyte but he tested positive for substance abuse removing his right for a mandatory fight against Wilder. This fight against Luis Ortiz isn't really the one that fans want nor they even expect this to happen. The organization might just be treating this as a filler bout in order for Wilder to maintain his belt.

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November 05, 2019, 07:33:12 PM
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Yeah, I don't know why isn't anybody talking about this game. This could be a great fight. But, even though I think it's still a 50/50 chance because last match was a TKO at 10th, I still think that Deontay the Bronze Bomber will take this match again. And I was expecting for a TKO again this time.




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November 06, 2019, 01:28:44 AM
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@spadormie. Are you certain that there will be a 50/50 chance? The odds the sportsbooks are offering is telling us another story hehehe.

Also, this fight, similar to Tyson Wilder's last fight shows how broken boxing as a sport is.

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November 06, 2019, 05:59:05 AM
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Yeah, I don't know why isn't anybody talking about this game. This could be a great fight. But, even though I think it's still a 50/50 chance because last match was a TKO at 10th, I still think that Deontay the Bronze Bomber will take this match again. And I was expecting for a TKO again this time.

It's because Wilder has improved after their first meeting while Ortiz was just squeezing in order to win. And the age though, Ortiz is not getting any younger, although he can still punch but we don't think that they are in the same level that's why this fight is not a 50/50 and Wilder are highly favoured to win by ko.

@bbc.reporter - this is how boxing is right now, business of making money that's why managers are carefully cherry picking to protect their boxers and milk them out.
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November 06, 2019, 08:34:38 AM
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Yeah, I don't know why isn't anybody talking about this game. This could be a great fight. But, even though I think it's still a 50/50 chance because last match was a TKO at 10th, I still think that Deontay the Bronze Bomber will take this match again. And I was expecting for a TKO again this time.
There is not much interest in this match up because Deontay Wilder already defeated Luis Ortiz even though Wilder took some shots that rocked him and the promoters wanted an easy fight and so is the reason they went for a rematch expecting to make a ton of money and getting in shape for the rematch against Tyson Fury. Ortiz is a tough fighter but he is 40 years old and if this match up was in his prime then we would have seen a good contest.
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November 13, 2019, 11:19:18 PM
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Current Sportsbet.io odds:



Just a small shift on the odds, Ortiz odds looks attractive, but we all know that Wilder is hitting his prime now and it's going to be very hard to win against him at this point. Not thinking of putting a bet of Wilder though, probably will just watch and see how Wilder will win (KO/TKO).

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November 14, 2019, 01:18:40 AM
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Current Sportsbet.io odds:



Just a small shift on the odds, Ortiz odds looks attractive, but we all know that Wilder is hitting his prime now and it's going to be very hard to win against him at this point. Not thinking of putting a bet of Wilder though, probably will just watch and see how Wilder will win (KO/TKO).

I can't wait to watch this fight! Time fly so fast...
I will probably go with live betting, or some special bet., maybe D.Wilder KO win.
I have to wait for bookies add more specials

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November 14, 2019, 03:51:22 AM
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Current Sportsbet.io odds:



Just a small shift on the odds, Ortiz odds looks attractive, but we all know that Wilder is hitting his prime now and it's going to be very hard to win against him at this point. Not thinking of putting a bet of Wilder though, probably will just watch and see how Wilder will win (KO/TKO).

I am excited to watch the fight but not excited to place a bet either. I have great respect and admiration for Luiz Ortiz II but it seems the circumstances of the fight are in favor of Deontay. This will probably be Deontay's fight as you said. If only Ortiz II is a few years younger, this would have been a much more thrilling battle. Well, I'm looking forward to both men's performance inside the ring.   

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November 14, 2019, 04:28:53 AM
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I have watched their first match and Wilder almost knocked down on the 7th round but lucky for him he got saved by the bell and after that round it is a complete turn of events. The last 3 rounds are dominated by him and Ortiz got knocked out in the 10th round IIRC.

Now, I know that Wilder is for me the best Heavyweight right now with 41 wins with 40 of them ending with a KO but it will be a busy night for him. Ortiz is determined to give Wilder his first loss. He almost got it last year and now he will try it again.

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November 20, 2019, 11:44:44 AM
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I have watched their first match and Wilder almost knocked down on the 7th round but lucky for him he got saved by the bell and after that round it is a complete turn of events. The last 3 rounds are dominated by him and Ortiz got knocked out in the 10th round IIRC.

That is right, that's why we are have a part II because people thinks that Ortiz will have a chance to do it again but this time, it will be a KO.

Now, I know that Wilder is for me the best Heavyweight right now with 41 wins with 40 of them ending with a KO but it will be a busy night for him. Ortiz is determined to give Wilder his first loss. He almost got it last year and now he will try it again.

But we have to think that Wilder improved a lot after their fight while Ortiz deteriorate specially that he has age a lot.

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November 20, 2019, 12:06:02 PM
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I have watched their first match and Wilder almost knocked down on the 7th round but lucky for him he got saved by the bell and after that round it is a complete turn of events. The last 3 rounds are dominated by him and Ortiz got knocked out in the 10th round IIRC.

That is right, that's why we are have a part II because people thinks that Ortiz will have a chance to do it again but this time, it will be a KO.

Now, I know that Wilder is for me the best Heavyweight right now with 41 wins with 40 of them ending with a KO but it will be a busy night for him. Ortiz is determined to give Wilder his first loss. He almost got it last year and now he will try it again.

But we have to think that Wilder improved a lot after their fight while Ortiz deteriorate specially that he has age a lot.

I'll still go for Wilder, he is at the peak of his career, he will adjust he has a lot of advantages for this fight, height reach power, he as has everything he needs to beat Ortiz, and he knows that this guy can hurt him so Wilder will take all the necessary adjustment, to beat Ortiz, I will still want to see a Wilder - Joshua in the future.

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November 20, 2019, 09:53:31 PM
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Ortiz: I Wasn't Knocked Out By Wilder; Was Completely Fatigued

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“I don’t like to lose, especially in that fashion,” Ortiz said, according to a translator, while talking to a small group of reporters recently. “And to make it very clear, I wasn’t knocked out. I was completely fatigued and [dead] tired. That’s what it was, more than anything else. I would’ve preferred to get knocked out.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ortiz-i-knocked-out-by-wilder-completely-fatigued--144376

I think this is similar to Pacquiao vs Morales 2. Morales claims that he was really tired and that's why he was knockdown, but we all know that happens to their third and last fight. I think Ortiz will touch the canvass for good here and quit.

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November 21, 2019, 12:40:39 AM
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Only few days until this fight kick-off.
Interesting thing is that Tyson Fury trainer Ben Davison will be there watching the fight.
Team Fury is getting ready Wink

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November 21, 2019, 07:07:49 PM
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I have watched their first match and Wilder almost knocked down on the 7th round but lucky for him he got saved by the bell and after that round it is a complete turn of events. The last 3 rounds are dominated by him and Ortiz got knocked out in the 10th round IIRC.

Now, I know that Wilder is for me the best Heavyweight right now with 41 wins with 40 of them ending with a KO but it will be a busy night for him. Ortiz is determined to give Wilder his first loss. He almost got it last year and now he will try it again.

I have watched that round multiple times already and all I can say is that that Wilder got disoriented but what it looks to me he wasn't ready to go down for the count, he was like that for the last 40 seconds and he didn't look like Anthony Joshua wen get combo'ed by Ruiz. At the end Wilder still won the fight by TKOing him three rounds later. Maybe in the next fight I would say that Wilder wouldn't be too careless when facing Ortiz for the second time now since he already know what Ortiz can do in the ring.

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November 22, 2019, 11:29:38 AM
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Only few days until this fight kick-off.
Interesting thing is that Tyson Fury trainer Ben Davison will be there watching the fight.
Team Fury is getting ready Wink

Yeah mate, just a couple of days so let's see if Wilder can remove all the doubts and proved that he is the biggest heavyweight today. Because there are people who says that he just go lucky in round 7 that he didn't went down. That's why they second fight will put pressure on Wilder's shoulder, and with Fury's trainer watching on the sideline, I think Wilder is more "pressure" show he is the best man.

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November 22, 2019, 04:25:15 PM
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Only few days until this fight kick-off.
Interesting thing is that Tyson Fury trainer Ben Davison will be there watching the fight.
Team Fury is getting ready Wink

Yeah mate, just a couple of days so let's see if Wilder can remove all the doubts and proved that he is the biggest heavyweight today. Because there are people who says that he just go lucky in round 7 that he didn't went down. That's why they second fight will put pressure on Wilder's shoulder, and with Fury's trainer watching on the sideline, I think Wilder is more "pressure" show he is the best man.

I am more excited on the Joshua - Ruiz, fight but this Wilder Ortiz match is also a must watch fight because, there could be another upsets here and if Ruiz beat Joshua, then we have a major shake up in the heavyweight, this is something to watch out, suddenly the heavyweight
has become excited because of the entry of Andy Ruiz.
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November 22, 2019, 05:06:13 PM
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A lot a not talking about boxing anymore and I think many are now preferring the martial arts fights than just boxing, I think that is the case why there is no topic about this,

With this fight, I think Ortiz II is in a real pinch here and in danger with Deontay Wilder in my opinion because of the Bronze Bomber typically is improving every time he enters the ring and in my opinion getting buff up every time he has a match and that's not all Ortiz in my opinion sometimes gets lazy with his Defense and relying in his counter and head movements I think this is an advantage to Wilder to this can be a Deontay Wilder win pretty much it is seen from the Odds (-650).
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November 23, 2019, 11:20:43 AM
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I am taking Wilder win by KO here.
Interesting but risky bets are also to predict winner and round range
Wilder to win from round 1-3 or 4-6

I don't see this going more than 6 rounds.

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November 23, 2019, 11:54:01 AM
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Final Weigh-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc71OHR1DW4

"Grandpa" Ortiz looks fit came in light as compare to their first fight, while Wilder the same as ever, and relax. I agree that this fight won't last that long, maybe below 10 rounds for Wilder.
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November 23, 2019, 12:52:04 PM
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I am taking Wilder win by KO here.
I don't see this going more than 6 rounds.

Final Weigh-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc71OHR1DW4

I agree that this fight won't last that long, maybe below 10 rounds for Wilder.

Yeah, it looks like it. But I honestly want an upset here, even though this hope does not come with a bet. That may be next to impossible for this Cuban grandpa to defeat the very athletic and dangerous Wilder but the weigh-in gives us a little glimpse of the shape of the two, and to be fair the grandpa does not look like 40 in there. He has weighed the lightest today than in his previous battles. If this tells us anything, I hope it means he's going to be floating a little.

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