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December 16, 2019, 05:16:03 PM
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it is because most of project team did not achieve there desired vision. team is not as much professional. sometimes project can't achieve hardcap. some of them stolen investors fund and run out. but the main factor is idea behind the project is not attantable.
True, if the idea or concept that the team wants to build is not reached, it will have an effect on project failure, it is certainly very common if it occurs, but the most common is the fraud committed by the team so that their project also fails to be developed.
a concept will always be the initial view for some investors, a good and useful concept will always target investors. coupled with the current situation, a good project concept will become the target of investors

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December 16, 2019, 05:21:37 PM
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it is because most of project team did not achieve there desired vision. team is not as much professional. sometimes project can't achieve hardcap. some of them stolen investors fund and run out. but the main factor is idea behind the project is not attantable.
True, if the idea or concept that the team wants to build is not reached, it will have an effect on project failure, it is certainly very common if it occurs, but the most common is the fraud committed by the team so that their project also fails to be developed.
a concept will always be the initial view for some investors, a good and useful concept will always target investors. coupled with the current situation, a good project concept will become the target of investors

In short, there were projects that set out goals or roadmaps which arent that  realistic or that can be achieved and with that alone, investors would really have those views that this project isnt really that serious.

One of the factors why they dont succeed and come to think that most scam projects would really have these kind of too good to be true roadmaps which you can already tell that youre dealing with a fraud but
there were legit ones that do ask out such support but they havent done enough on convincing potential investor.

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December 16, 2019, 05:42:40 PM
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In short, there were projects that set out goals or roadmaps which arent that  realistic or that can be achieved and with that alone, investors would really have those views that this project isnt really that serious.

One of the factors why they dont succeed and come to think that most scam projects would really have these kind of too good to be true roadmaps which you can already tell that youre dealing with a fraud but
there were legit ones that do ask out such support but they havent done enough on convincing potential investor.

Roadmaps are easily done. It is still sometimes up to the team whether they're gonna really follow the roadmap they made. I am pretty sure that change of plans is quite common like they can't guarantee that they can get the hardcap. I rarely see those project reaching the hardcap, especially that there are fear emerging to some investors already.
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December 16, 2019, 06:04:39 PM
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It's easy to show off. Some projects produce a very strong road map. You think they're going into space. Then they can't even agree with an Exchange. I'm trying to take my own precaution. That's what I do. I turn to projects that are transparent. Projects that clearly explain everything. Constantly updated projects in Github. Projects that run the chain to which they belong. The most important thing is that they openly declare the money they have collected in the IEO or ICO and prove it.
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December 16, 2019, 07:02:05 PM
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hello everyone

I have came to think of something reasonable about some projects, today everyone just wakeup to create his project and introduced it to btt just for people to suffer and promote probably at last the project will not succeed and they will foldup why? everywhere and there having much projects trooping in the forum today but few succeeds.
today, tomorrow, next tomorrow came up with all such of tokens, or could it be they want to build their social media groups and pages then they will come create fuck token and disbursed to the people whose manage to follow them on their media page and at last such token has no value in the market. they will even stole some other project websites just to boost their pages. this is improper... We hear scam and thief everywhere due to not have a proper documentations about the ventures.  
I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their  facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?


Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment
I have a friend who created his own token by his some friends without any roadmap or website during 2017. But they had good plan, bad luck they failed. To promote scam project this forum has rules to banned account or negative trust or red flags. I think there is no way to run free from scammer.
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December 20, 2019, 04:03:05 PM
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to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their  facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

I think this is the main interest of all cryptocurrency especially those who are seeking funds.  The stated platform have lots of possible investors so it is a basic step to target these platform's users.  It is that it is more exploited by scam projects.

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?


Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment

Admin only have the IP of the members, so I do not think there is other way than that.  And as for the project, it is on the discretion of the creator.  He can be fair or he can be a scam. 
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December 20, 2019, 04:31:26 PM
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hello everyone

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?


Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment
I think the only way to track them is thru their SEC number, I dont know if most of the countries have this number for each business. In this way you may check it in their local registry and ask if the project you want to join is real. But it could be a hassle thing, those people behind it can be track too.

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December 20, 2019, 04:49:46 PM
 #128

hello everyone

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?


Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment
I think the only way to track them is thru their SEC number, I dont know if most of the countries have this number for each business. In this way you may check it in their local registry and ask if the project you want to join is real. But it could be a hassle thing, those people behind it can be track too.
It was possible in the old days but now the scammers use very clever methods for cleaning the traces of fake companies. The virtual office suppliers don't share the information of the vendor with third parties and unless you have inside information, it is not possible to prove something. The advantages of online business opportunities are used in the wrong way by scam projects.

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December 20, 2019, 07:54:31 PM
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You are right. Most scams are just fake volume. They nothing more than a website and some social media. They just want high numbers. If you see some bounties attract so many bot users or users that will never speak in the telegram chat, there are 10k+ people in such a short time. Sometimes the twitter accounts get blocked because the growth happens so quickly.
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December 20, 2019, 08:10:11 PM
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There is absolutely no way to overcome this problem, especially in this forum, anyone here does not guarantee your safety in project investment / crypto, only you can determine your destiny here. therefore before you do many things in the crypto space, know in advance about the risks and any consequences that exist.
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You are right. Most scams are just fake volume. They nothing more than a website and some social media. They just want high numbers. If you see some bounties attract so many bot users or users that will never speak in the telegram chat, there are 10k+ people in such a short time. Sometimes the twitter accounts get blocked because the growth happens so quickly.
Not only fake volume other also faked thier sale so once its listed in exchange they will dump it traders.
In telegram they can easily add member using mass adding if there are many members it doesnt mean it is legit most of them is just paid by the owner.

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December 28, 2019, 10:02:09 AM
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Most times, fake projects usually display red flags that are obvious for anyone to see but the fact is that some bounty hunters are not even qualified to bear that name because they do not even have the slightest idea when research means, so even with the glaring indicators of a scam project, you see them trooping in to promote them and when the expected happens, they start blaming scam projects for making them waste their time.

As bounty hunters, we have our own role to play, as investors, we have our own role to play too and we shouldn't always expect the scam busters to do all the work for us, we should also try our best to do our own personal due diligence on every project we plan to promote to avoid tears.
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December 28, 2019, 11:55:58 AM
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Indeed, the majority of projects won't even collect their soft caps and when they do, they would likely fail to keep the price on the same level as during the token sale. This is sad, but true and we cannot do much about it on such a market.
In fact, there are many new projects that ultimately fail because of not achieving softcap. I personally think this is a normal thing to happen where many scam projects then make investors afraid to start investing in new projects and would prefer to play it safe by watching or waiting for the right moment to start investing.
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December 28, 2019, 12:05:06 PM
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The truth here is, most of the projects that are popping in the market are just useless and all they have is hype. They don't have the commitment for long term progress of their project and they are in the market for the cash. I would suggest to stay away from trusting the new projects and stick to the solid existing projects that we have and invest in them for long term.

 
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December 28, 2019, 12:08:03 PM
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it is because most of project team did not achieve there desired vision. team is not as much professional. sometimes project can't achieve hardcap. some of them stolen investors fund and run out. but the main factor is idea behind the project is not attantable.
True, if the idea or concept that the team wants to build is not reached, it will have an effect on project failure, it is certainly very common if it occurs, but the most common is the fraud committed by the team so that their project also fails to be developed.
a concept will always be the initial view for some investors, a good and useful concept will always target investors. coupled with the current situation, a good project concept will become the target of investors

In short, there were projects that set out goals or roadmaps which arent that  realistic or that can be achieved and with that alone, investors would really have those views that this project isnt really that serious.

One of the factors why they dont succeed and come to think that most scam projects would really have these kind of too good to be true roadmaps which you can already tell that youre dealing with a fraud but
there were legit ones that do ask out such support but they havent done enough on convincing potential investor.
We should find a projects where their roadmap is feasible and it is realistic. There are roadmaps that are not realistic that can really identify as a scam project. All of projects have road map, we are the one who can identify if the project can achieve its road map or not. There are roadmaps that are really fishy and we can easily identify it if it is legit or not.
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December 28, 2019, 12:51:45 PM
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There is absolutely no way to overcome this problem, especially in this forum, anyone here does not guarantee your safety in project investment / crypto, only you can determine your destiny here. therefore before you do many things in the crypto space, know in advance about the risks and any consequences that exist.
True, no one guarantees our safety here, except ourselves, and it is highly recommended that everyone conduct various studies on the crypto project before participating or promoting it.
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December 28, 2019, 12:57:02 PM
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There is absolutely no way to overcome this problem, especially in this forum, anyone here does not guarantee your safety in project investment / crypto, only you can determine your destiny here. therefore before you do many things in the crypto space, know in advance about the risks and any consequences that exist.
True, no one guarantees our safety here, except ourselves, and it is highly recommended that everyone conduct various studies on the crypto project before participating or promoting it.
when we research projects that we follow we should be ready with all the risks of losing it. There is no guarantee except ourselves, and for this reason, we should not blame other people or circumstances for our investments.









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December 28, 2019, 02:41:35 PM
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Most project do not succeed due to scam many projects caus d investors, as we can see market is down, some exchanges folded, investors lost huge some are running out of liquidity, no trust in the market and only regulation to eliminate fake projects will solve this issue.

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December 28, 2019, 02:54:53 PM
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Most project do not succeed due to scam many projects caus d investors, as we can see market is down, some exchanges folded, investors lost huge some are running out of liquidity, no trust in the market and only regulation to eliminate fake projects will solve this issue.
If the rules for eliminating fake projects seem to have existed, just how far can we all block the birth of fake projects, because if everyone can block the birth of fake projects, then in the future there will not be many more people who are deceived by scammers.
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December 28, 2019, 03:56:39 PM
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hello everyone

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?


Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment
I think the only way to track them is thru their SEC number, I dont know if most of the countries have this number for each business. In this way you may check it in their local registry and ask if the project you want to join is real. But it could be a hassle thing, those people behind it can be track too.
Can SEC really be able to track down all those possible scam projects? Why there were projects that are able to scam and ran aways with money from investors without being caught. That is why I think they are brave enough to scam cause they know they can not be caught easily due to fact that they fakes their informations given in their project proposals.
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