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December 28, 2019, 04:53:23 PM
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It can't be, because even good projects can become scams and this forum also doesn't have a checking system for projects that will be promoted in this forum so there's nothing to do, to make this forum free of scammers

But not all because I experience in the year 2017 where almost a lot of projects do succeed and for now it was impossible to happen because there are a lot of high person who create something different to have an easy money from the investor until it spread. So now, there are a lot of investor who scared to invest that's why there's a lot of campaign that are not going successful.



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December 28, 2019, 06:42:06 PM
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It can't be, because even good projects can become scams and this forum also doesn't have a checking system for projects that will be promoted in this forum so there's nothing to do, to make this forum free of scammers
the time will come and the market, as well as this forum itself, will be cleaned from scammers. I think that in a few years there will be 80 percent fewer scammers and only very strong hackers will remain whom will be impossible to find and who will always exist, just as they exist in traditional markets. there is nothing that we can do right now. just be careful before invest


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December 28, 2019, 10:47:50 PM
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hello everyone

I have came to think of something reasonable about some projects, today everyone just wakeup to create his project and introduced it to btt just for people to suffer and promote probably at last the project will not succeed and they will foldup why? everywhere and there having much projects trooping in the forum today but few succeeds.
today, tomorrow, next tomorrow came up with all such of tokens, or could it be they want to build their social media groups and pages then they will come create fuck token and disbursed to the people whose manage to follow them on their media page and at last such token has no value in the market. they will even stole some other project websites just to boost their pages. this is improper... We hear scam and thief everywhere due to not have a proper documentations about the ventures.  
I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their  facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?


Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment

The community of bitcointalk itself is very observant in determining the legitimacy of the project. Every small detail that seems to be bogus is posted as early as possible. The ANN thread is full of them. But even the legitimacy of the project does not guarantee the success. The project can still fail due to other factors just like market conditions and dev team management.

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December 29, 2019, 02:53:35 AM
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If there is a way to track down easily those potential scam projects then no more complaints will be seen here. I know some developing some software in order to do this investigation but still a vivid inspection is needed cause these scammers nowadays are very smart and sometime got more knowledge than experience developers.
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December 29, 2019, 08:36:23 AM
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in the crypto market anything can happen unexpectedly, be it a good project or a bad one that can change immediately. including the ico project that we predicted could be successful but could turn out otherwise. it is important for you to always be careful before investing in a project and ensure that the entire contents of the project are real or not, including the transparency of the team and the developer's background.
We should expect the worst that can happen, not all the projects that we join and participated can last till the end or they succeed. Many of them turn to be scam because of the lack of support of the developer some of them succeed but in the end turned to be shit coin due to the unstable market prices, and they choose some shit exchanges with low number of traders . We need to be prepared on what wi gonna happen.
Anything can happen and for new projects now it can be said that there are many new projects that are difficult to develop the projects they bring, maybe because of the difficulty of attracting investors to invest in the project which then makes the project unable to run due to lack of funds to run the project and for projects that have received funding also do not mean that the project will be successful and can provide benefits because as you many tokens the prices we get from new projects end up with no value.
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Typically scam projects boost their social media pages via promotions to attract more victims to buy in their tokens. The major reason why we see most projects fail is because the major aim of most team members is to make money and nothing else. Talking about Bitcointalk curbing scam projects, it's up to the members to be careful and also report such projects with relevant prove under scam accusations. It's not relevant for this forum to implement compulsory KYC as proposed, unless for new projects putting up an ANN thread per say in my own opinion. We just have to use common sense when dealing with these projects.

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December 29, 2019, 08:57:27 AM
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yes, and what is referred to as the main factor of failure is due to the altcoin dump market which causes most projects to then discontinue their projects for fear of falling exchange rates.
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December 29, 2019, 09:01:06 AM
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Many factors why make many projects not success because owner never serious for promoting their site and investor do not know about their investment project, developer have give higher reward allocation for every one promote their coin like for bounty campaign participants and give higher reward about 5% to 7% allocation reward for their participants.
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December 29, 2019, 11:08:45 AM
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I think many projects don't even end up developing their product, and tarry until no one waits for them

So many projects don't succeed,
Only investors can truly count the losses

But always dyor either a project is vetted on the platform or not
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December 29, 2019, 11:17:46 AM
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Typically scam projects boost their social media pages via promotions to attract more victims to buy in their tokens. The major reason why we see most projects fail is because the major aim of most team members is to make money and nothing else. Talking about Bitcointalk curbing scam projects, it's up to the members to be careful and also report such projects with relevant prove under scam accusations. It's not relevant for this forum to implement compulsory KYC as proposed, unless for new projects putting up an ANN thread per say in my own opinion. We just have to use common sense when dealing with these projects.

   We need to use common sense all the time! As you say Bananington, scam projects boost their pages via promotions, those
promotions are full with huge promises, sometimes I can't believe that people fall on that. It's up to us to think it trough, to
do some kind of research, to check real possibilities of the project, not just to believe in what someone wrote.
   I don't think that someone or something can end scam projects. Many of us can't do a proper research, we don't have
technical knowledge, and some scams are very well camouflaged.



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December 29, 2019, 11:43:15 AM
Last edit: December 29, 2019, 02:07:08 PM by KimmyF
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hello everyone

I have came to think of something reasonable about some projects, today everyone just wakeup to create his project and introduced it to btt just for people to suffer and promote probably at last the project will not succeed and they will foldup why? everywhere and there having much projects trooping in the forum today but few succeeds.
today, tomorrow, next tomorrow came up with all such of tokens, or could it be they want to build their social media groups and pages then they will come create fuck token and disbursed to the people whose manage to follow them on their media page and at last such token has no value in the market. they will even stole some other project websites just to boost their pages. this is improper... We hear scam and thief everywhere due to not have a proper documentations about the ventures.  
I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their  facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?


Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
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Where problem is doubt, how can we identify real project. Tagz is a exchange but by volume in top but still has doubt. We need clear information about scam project. After scam accusation so many scam project still exists in cryptocurrency. Very critical to find when this coin already listed in some exchange.
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December 29, 2019, 11:48:07 AM
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Maybe have been destiny many failed project not only ICO investment but also IEO could be scam with lower price after listing, maybe we must move from both investing way between ICO and IEO and have try other investing at the next time, I will waiting for which one kind of investment on 2020 after faced with many scam project on this year.
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December 29, 2019, 12:57:16 PM
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Its your own decision to be made, if you think the project is scammy then forget and move to the next project, as easy as that. However, if you already started in promoting that project then suddenly you saw some red flags along the way, leave it then move on to the next project. Its not very hard to track down this shady projects we just have to do some efforts on making our own research.

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December 29, 2019, 01:54:44 PM
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It can't be, because even good projects can become scams and this forum also doesn't have a checking system for projects that will be promoted in this forum so there's nothing to do, to make this forum free of scammers
That's right, there were a lot of fraudulent projects but there were also many amateur projects that simply could not do the job or simply looked far into the future. There are many more slag projects where a token and blockchain are completely unnecessary.
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December 29, 2019, 02:11:47 PM
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It can't be, because even good projects can become scams and this forum also doesn't have a checking system for projects that will be promoted in this forum so there's nothing to do, to make this forum free of scammers
That's right, there were a lot of fraudulent projects but there were also many amateur projects that simply could not do the job or simply looked far into the future. There are many more slag projects where a token and blockchain are completely unnecessary.

The most crypto project that doesn't have certainty and working product will simply won't go far but it kills their life shortly. This is common nowadays and people will think this is a scam. Yes, they are far from what the people must expecting for and most of us here have such bad experience learning that investing these kinds of projects is getting closer to put ends of our funds.

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December 29, 2019, 05:29:30 PM
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It can't be, because even good projects can become scams and this forum also doesn't have a checking system for projects that will be promoted in this forum so there's nothing to do, to make this forum free of scammers
You are right project are some scamming that we will have to avoid from investing as they show wrong and take advantage so I think forum or working system should keep their eyes open and not to trust without making proper research. Project succeed only with investors and investors support only real websites and Projects.

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January 13, 2020, 08:23:25 AM
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It can't be, because even good projects can become scams and this forum also doesn't have a checking system for projects that will be promoted in this forum so there's nothing to do, to make this forum free of scammers
You could say scammers will always be there with their tricks that can make others believe and participate in the projects they bring to be able to benefit for them personally. Indeed, for the moment I also think that there is no way that can be done to eliminate a scammer because scammers always have their own way to find a gap that they can enter. Maybe now it all depends on each of us, in choosing a project before making a decision, not in a hurry and easily believe the words of others.

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January 13, 2020, 10:11:43 AM
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Projects must be real in order to be successful. There's a lot of fake business on the market. They're using bitcoin for another benefit. They are looking for members for Twitter or Facebook pages. Bounty campaigns should be free of these frauds.
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January 19, 2020, 11:29:18 AM
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That is how crypto is. Doesn't matter how much time and effort you put into your project there's a good chance that the project will not succeed. This is because the only real space where crypto is useful at the moment is transferring the wealth between two parties without any third party risk. And it is doing it great, we do not need anything else in this space.

 
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January 19, 2020, 02:09:34 PM
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I don't think they can track and trace a scam project. The answer for this is we don't need to depend into btt for us to keep safe. Because to feel secure from a scam project, we need to be wiser amd aware from a project that we might  think that can benefit us. Because any project sell their info as much as good one. So it will really depend to us the way how we handle a researxh about a real amd good project that may benefit oir investment. So here I can give one name of a good alts the Aci coin to add to your portfolios.
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