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November 05, 2019, 07:35:23 AM
Last edit: November 05, 2019, 10:48:46 AM by Rikafip
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While checking something else, i found group of at least 16 accounts that are following each other through various Ann threads. All of those are currently active in the Dreamr Ann thread. There are more accounts that are doing similar thing in that thread, as they managed to churn out more than 1300 posts  in month and a half, but these accounts were most active in other threads as well, with strongest connections.





Ann threads
Dreamr     http://archive.md/OyUrK
Bitmax      https://archive.ph/pFvYJ
Elynet       http://archive.md/o33P1
Bitmovio   http://archive.md/kAGIT
Moozicore http://archive.md/PgnPh
Mitoshi     https://archive.ph/
Bow coin   http://archive.md/DclEE
Hiway       https://archive.ph/CspIj
Minedblocked  https://archive.ph/9ZPle
Imp          http://archive.md/Nefce
Bora         http://archive.md/QuH1W
Contentos   http://archive.md/iJd7T
Transburn   http://archive.ph/ddbZ4
STP Network   http://archive.ph/LbOuY


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Nathan01
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1306917
https://archive.ph/GdCmc

ning_aric
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205747
http://archive.md/0DDH5

Kinkadeinspired
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1271035
http://archive.md/QKWNF

gee777
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1248811
https://archive.ph/kyVfN

em777
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2039514
https://archive.md/71dEn

Anilbg
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1269653
https://archive.ph/P9uEX

jumiapaul
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2289747
https://archive.ph/tD9hG

nwosuchristabe2
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1634139
https://archive.ph/JANwr

charlop24
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1893700
https://archive.ph/cl6XS

Ace44
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=934247
https://archive.ph/E7qpj

Getadaaa
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2320825
https://archive.ph/lJ337

kriszz50983
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2613561
https://archive.ph/CJnjz

Pricebrianer
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2320512
https://archive.ph/IZlnJ

Sozialtourist
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1067257
http://archive.md/4Vnm4

Cnote112
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2291874
https://archive.ph/cd0rV

Mrcharles
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1436577
https://archive.ph/5uGK0

Olorijayz
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2496538
https://archive.md/QlgOd


Accounts are from Jr Member to Full Member rank. It is fair to say that their posts are not classic one-liners, but their goal is the same, to create buzz and interest with fake conversations.


Apologies if i made thread in wrong section, but i saw these kind of threads in Meta, Scam accusation and Reputation sections, so i wasn't sure where exactly to share this.










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November 05, 2019, 07:56:01 AM
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That's a lot of work you done there, good job.

move this to rep fella.. nice work man

I was always wondering what the best section to post this kind of stuff was. On one hand, its definitely related to the reputation of these accounts; on the other hand, nobody seems to know exactly what to do with paid thread bumpers, as they are not technically breaking any rules except for spamming, perhaps.

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November 05, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
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If you ask me, Meta is the place, often when I report the ann thread bumping spammers, the Ann threads get deleted and/or some of the bumping accounts get banned/nuked.
Keep it here,better exposure to mod's attention.

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November 05, 2019, 10:14:50 AM
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This seems to be a pretty common service nowadays  Angry
I bet you if you open a random ANN/Bounty thread, click on the ALL button to display all posts you will find plenty of users doing that. CRTL + F and copy-paste their username and see what comes up. A bunch of fake conversations, questions being asked by one newbie, a second one replies and a third one confirms and praises the project for their amazing work...

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November 05, 2019, 10:29:30 AM
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I just checked the first page of both "Announcements (Altcoins)" and "Tokens (Altcoins)" boards.
Thanks to the new bumping system, except Moozicore which is now the third thread in "Tokens (Altcoins)" boards, none of these threads were on the first page of the board and bumping services are only wasting their money as their attempts are useless. (Better to say project owners are wasting their money.)

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November 05, 2019, 10:43:59 AM
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I just checked the first page of both "Announcements (Altcoins)" and "Tokens (Altcoins)" boards.
Thanks to the new bumping system, except Moozicore which is now the third thread in "Tokens (Altcoins)" boards, none of these threads were on the first page of the board and bumping services are only wasting their money as their attempts are useless. (Better to say project owners are wasting their money.)


It just goes to show how little research the projects that hire these services do in terms of their marketing... They never even realize its a waste of money. They just get sold on the idea that it needs to be done, and throw money at it. To me, this lack of attentiveness is a sign of a scam project, who I believe are the main customers of this type of service... Its the same reason why scams plagiarize their white papers, website content and hastily produce fake teams -- they are in it for the short term only.

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Awesome work is done by Rikafip. These accounts should be banned from the forum I think. The neg rep trust is not enough alone for them. Because thus they are helping to promote scam projects. Only banned for posting can stop those accounts or it will be ongoing.

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November 05, 2019, 01:11:27 PM
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This seems to be a pretty common service nowadays  Angry
I bet you if you open a random ANN/Bounty thread, click on the ALL button to display all posts you will find plenty of users doing that. CRTL + F and copy-paste their username and see what comes up. A bunch of fake conversations, questions being asked by one newbie, a second one replies and a third one confirms and praises the project for their amazing work...

It's no use anymore after the new bumping rules are in power, they just fool the people that they gonna bump the thread but what they do is just to steal the money and make fake thread volume. I hope in a couple of months those services to die out, when the buyers realize that they all the money are thrown away for nothing.

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November 05, 2019, 03:38:11 PM
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This seems to be a pretty common service nowadays  Angry
I bet you if you open a random ANN/Bounty thread, click on the ALL button to display all posts you will find plenty of users doing that. CRTL + F and copy-paste their username and see what comes up. A bunch of fake conversations, questions being asked by one newbie, a second one replies and a third one confirms and praises the project for their amazing work...

It's no use anymore after the new bumping rules are in power, they just fool the people that they gonna bump the thread but what they do is just to steal the money and make fake thread volume. I hope in a couple of months those services to die out, when the buyers realize that they all the money are thrown away for nothing.

The new bumping rules were made to eliminate such fake services but it will take time until the external stake holders realize that bumping Ann is no longer possible in bitcointalk.
There is only one way this can continue that if any person have few high quality accounts with merits and they have the power to bump the threads but i am sure no one will be doing the bumping service with high quality accounts.

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   10. Full Member coin_1122 (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   11. Sr. Member Btc_1856 (Trust: neutral) (BPIP)

   14. Full Member crustycrab666 (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   15. Full Member dongosquad (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)

I'm probably making a giant understatement here, but a lot of these sig spammers seem to be following each other's posts and posting in the same threads. I see the same names appear constantly in the same threads. Makes me believe that many of them are one and the same person.

In the cases quoted above, it's even more obvious: coin_1122 and BTC_1856 have the user numbers 925742 resp. 925744, and crustycrab666 and dongosquad are 995891 resp. 995892.

I suppose the numbers are created in order of forum subscription?

I've seen this kind of practices before. The same people bumping each other's threads, sometimes to keep the ANN thread alive, but also because they want to pump their activity.

Although I'm no member of the Spambusters Club, I've been welcomed to report these user IDs on the SpamBusters Club's thread. Simply send the IDs to LoyceV who will convert them for you, like in my quotes above.

Just a friendly suggestion, Rikafip. (edit: and by the way, good job  Cheesy)

 
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November 05, 2019, 08:58:03 PM
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There is only one way this can continue that if any person have few high quality accounts with merits and they have the power to bump the threads but i am sure no one will be doing the bumping service with high quality accounts.
High-merited users can easily bump threads without any need to make a post. They can super-bump the thread. This is much more effective that mini-bump.
At the time I am making this post, there are 6 threads on the first page of  Announcements (Altcoins) boards without any posts in the past 36 hours. These threads have been super-bumped by high-merited users. So, there are some quality users not make posts on ANN threads but super-bump them.

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There is only one way this can continue that if any person have few high quality accounts with merits and they have the power to bump the threads but i am sure no one will be doing the bumping service with high quality accounts.
High-merited users can easily bump threads without any need to make a post. They can super-bump the thread. This is much more effective that mini-bump.
At the time I am making this post, there are 6 threads on the first page of  Announcements (Altcoins) boards without any posts in the past 36 hours. These threads have been super-bumped by high-merited users. So, there are some quality users not make posts on ANN threads but super-bump them.


There are people who follow the projects and they can super bump them too. We should not always look for the loop holes and should have faith in the ones who are bumping the threads for any reason they have. The main issue was the mini-bumps from the Newbies which has been resolved to a great extent after the implementation of new bumping rules.

 
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It's no use anymore after the new bumping rules are in power...
To be honest I haven't read up on the new rules regarding thread bumping so I don't know what changed. From the info in this thread and thinking about it logically I assume that new replies no longer place those ANN threads on top of the ANN board and that is why it is no use to have fake conversations.

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November 06, 2019, 11:01:23 AM
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If you ask me, Meta is the place, often when I report the ann thread bumping spammers, the Ann threads get deleted and/or some of the bumping accounts get banned/nuked.
Keep it here,better exposure to mod's attention.

Alright, gonna keep it here then, thanks for the input.




It just goes to show how little research the projects that hire these services do in terms of their marketing... They never even realize its a waste of money. They just get sold on the idea that it needs to be done, and throw money at it. To me, this lack of attentiveness is a sign of a scam project, who I believe are the main customers of this type of service... Its the same reason why scams plagiarize their white papers, website content and hastily produce fake teams -- they are in it for the short term only.

From what i noticed usually these things are done during IEO/ICO period, but there are  cases where this ann bumping thing goes on after that period. Perfect example of that is Cocos BCX.  99% of their Ann thread is filled with newbie spam, while they are already listed on Binance. I simply don't understand why is that going on there, it's not like they really need that kind of exposure, it can only have counter effect.



    10. Full Member coin_1122 (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    11. Sr. Member Btc_1856 (Trust: neutral) (BPIP)

    14. Full Member crustycrab666 (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    15. Full Member dongosquad (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)

I'm probably making a giant understatement here, but a lot of these sig spammers seem to be following each other's posts and posting in the same threads. I see the same names appear constantly in the same threads. Makes me believe that many of them are one and the same person.

In the cases quoted above, it's even more obvious: coin_1122 and BTC_1856 have the user numbers 925742 resp. 925744, and crustycrab666 and dongosquad are 995891 resp. 995892.

I suppose the numbers are created in order of forum subscription?

Although I'm no member of the Spambusters Club, I've been welcomed to report these user IDs on the SpamBusters Club's thread. Simply send the IDs to LoyceV who will convert them for you, like in my quotes above.

Just a friendly suggestion, Rikafip. (edit: and by the way, good job  Cheesy)

Thank you for the suggestion, I will look into that. I noticed @LoyceV makes those things and they seem very convenient, but i wondered how exactly he does that. I thought about posting some of things like this to SpamBuster Club's thread, but then i saw i need at least 300 reports, and I am quite far away from that number.

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November 06, 2019, 11:36:41 AM
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From what i noticed usually these things are done during IEO/ICO period, but there are  cases where this ann bumping thing goes on after that period. Perfect example of that is Cocos BCX.  99% of their Ann thread is filled with newbie spam, while they are already listed on Binance. I simply don't understand why is that going on there, it's not like they really need that kind of exposure, it can only have counter effect.

They are only trying to keep their thread alive. Like what is going on in Telegram groups of many tokens and IEOs/ICOs.
Generally there are three reasons for such activities.
1. They don't know how the new bumping system works.
2. They don't want to bump their thread. They only want to have an alive thread.
3. They want to be on the first page of the board when threads are sorted by the last post.

And about a thread you referred to:
I just checked their website. Their bounty is still going on and there are some tasks offered to people. They are likely spending money for posting on their ANN thread too.

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November 06, 2019, 12:06:47 PM
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Thank you for the suggestion, I will look into that. I noticed @LoyceV makes those things and they seem very convenient, but i wondered how exactly he does that.
I just download the profile, and get the data from there. That's it Smiley
If you get me a list of userIDs, I'll get you a human readable list.

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I thought about posting some of things like this to SpamBuster Club's thread, but then i saw i need at least 300 reports, and I am quite far away from that number.
It's not a very strict requirement to post in that thread.

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November 06, 2019, 12:56:50 PM
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From what i noticed usually these things are done during IEO/ICO period, but there are  cases where this ann bumping thing goes on after that period. Perfect example of that is Cocos BCX.  99% of their Ann thread is filled with newbie spam, while they are already listed on Binance. I simply don't understand why is that going on there, it's not like they really need that kind of exposure, it can only have counter effect.


And about a thread you referred to:
I just checked their website. Their bounty is still going on and there are some tasks offered to people. They are likely spending money for posting on their ANN thread too.


Yeah i thought the same thing when i saw bounty section on their website, so i registered to have access, and i from what i could see they don't have bounty for that. Oh well, whatever is going on there, it doesn't help them much.



Thank you for the suggestion, I will look into that. I noticed @LoyceV makes those things and they seem very convenient, but i wondered how exactly he does that.
I just download the profile, and get the data from there. That's it Smiley
If you get me a list of userIDs, I'll get you a human readable list.

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I thought about posting some of things like this to SpamBuster Club's thread, but then i saw i need at least 300 reports, and I am quite far away from that number.
It's not a very strict requirement to post in that thread.

Ok good to know, I might ask for permission to join that thread when i stumble upon something Wink

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Today at 07:06:18 AM
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If you ask me, Meta is the place, often when I report the ann thread bumping spammers, the Ann threads get deleted and/or some of the bumping accounts get banned/nuked.
Keep it here,better exposure to mod's attention.

I have a question though. Isn't this a marketing activity from the look of things this team might be part of a project that is seeking  to push for publicity. This kind of thing happens all around us all the time. When we visit big site like google, YouTube and Facebook it is what sales people do. I would like to know how you think marketing should be done. I am an investor and I get to know about project when a lot of people are talking about it then I carry out an intensive research to verify their authenticity before pouring bucks into the project. This is just an opinion I don't know how things are done here.
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 #20

If you ask me, Meta is the place, often when I report the ann thread bumping spammers, the Ann threads get deleted and/or some of the bumping accounts get banned/nuked.
Keep it here,better exposure to mod's attention.

I have a question though. Isn't this a marketing activity from the look of things this team might be part of a project that is seeking  to push for publicity. This kind of thing happens all around us all the time. When we visit big site like google, YouTube and Facebook it is what sales people do. I would like to know how you think marketing should be done. I am an investor and I get to know about project when a lot of people are talking about it then I carry out an intensive research to verify their authenticity before pouring bucks into the project. This is just an opinion I don't know how things are done here.

I honestly doubt that you are an investor as i just checked your post history, and if we exclude this post you made, all others (3) were made on the same threads where this same group of accounts "worked".
So i would say that you are most likely part of the same group.


edit: can any of the DT members tag those accounts from first post? They are not newbie accounts, so might be worth it. Thank you.

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