{LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more smerit. New Round.

[The Cryptovator]

Its seems I need more smerit, need to increase allocation. Merits ending before end of month. I have ZERO smerit now (source merits & earned smerit). Sometimes missing good post due to refill duration. It's quite hard to bookmarked or remember during busy time.

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[o_e_l_e_o]

Is it just my imagination that sMerits are being burnt slowly?

Taken to its extreme, every merit that is sent can generate a theoretical maximum of 1 sMerit.

If I send 1000 merits, 500 sMerits are generated.
If those 500 merits are sent, 250 sMerits are generated.
If those 250 merits are sent, 125 sMerits are generated.
If those 125 merits are sent, 62.5 sMerits are generated (the 0.5 sMerit is only realized when the user in question receives another 1 merit (and therefore 0.5 sMerit) to round it up to 1 sMerit).
And so on.

Add 500 to 250 to 125 to 62.5 to 31.25 to 15.625 and so on, and eventually you will become infinitely close to 1000. Because of this, if I send 1000 merits, then they could generate 1000 more, meaning 2000 in total would have been sent.

Currently, the only way merits are "lost" is when people don't send them on or accounts holding them become inactive or banned. In addition to that, there is a maximum of 21671 sMerits being created every month and given to merit sources, which as above, could result in a maximum of 43342 merits entering the system.

[El duderino_]

I could use a similar merit allowance increase as last time

 

I think then I will be good

[TheBeardedBaby]

The OP was updated today. Seven Eight sources requested increase of their source merit. We getting back to the time I opened this thread. This can be only a positive aspect. Hopefully more source will be added soon.
Again If anyone wants to be on that list, just leave a comment.

Edit:

ETFbitcoin added to the list

[cabalism13]

Add 500 to 250 to 125 to 62.5 to 31.25 to 15.625 and so on,...

Well in my silly imagination without adding up those numbers and just look into it individually it seems it is burning.

Sorry for the confusion it really BrokeMyLife ✌😂
Well yeah, is I had 1000 Merits it could also Generate close to 1000 but the thing is if it is distributed then it is slowly getting burned up ? Just an example of a cycle:

Me a Sauce have 100sMerits:
I gave 10 users 10Merits each which would give them 5 sMerits (generates 50)
Then those 10 users single picked 5 persons to give their sMerits which will end up 2.5 sMerits for each of them.
After that they pick again 2 users for that and generate 1.
And there goes. Until that 1 sMerit has been sent, End of cycle,... Nothing can be distributed again unless I spend another 100.

What I mean here is the cycle of Merits. Even if its distributed evenly the cycle will stop unless the 30day of span will make it to us. Or other sauces will try to give another round for another cycle.

It's more likely those merit source prefer PM

✌😂 Mate it gives me DoubleMeaning 😂😂😂

[DdmrDdmr]

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That’s kind of how it’s intended to go, and that’s the reason behind Merit Sources being able to pump more into the network. I’m pretty sure that the number of total aggregate awarded merits are monitored to some extent, and the current values are within what someone considers to be enough.

If there were no merit-to-sMerit halving of value, we’d see a bunch of pip-pong matches of a single merit being sent back and forth between two or more profiles.

We could debate though whether instead of generating 1 sMerit for every 2 earned Merits, we could be of a different ratio (i.e. 1:2 -> 2:3). That could make the propagation tree go another node down or so. Changing the ratio is not the same as incrementing the merit allowances for merit sources necessarily.

[TheBeardedBaby]

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It's more likely those merit source prefer PM

Maybe I should add also anonymous applications for those who need more smerit but don't want to reveal their accounts ( not that it really matters anymore with all those merit stats), just for a overview how many are in need.
If anyone else want to be includes anonymously, just sent me a PM

Edit> OP updated with Royse777's application.

[TheBeardedBaby]

@Ratimov, no matter if there will be a better allocation of the already distributed merit or increase of the total source merit in general, this is up to theymos decide, but those who to exhaust their smerit before those 30 days, and still find worthful posts should get some increase.

I guess theymos should first evaluate each applicant here for the quality of the posts they usually sent merit to and then decide for each case if it really requires increase.
 
OP is updated.

[vapourminer]

so now im here too, requesting an increase.

turns out even trying to limit to 1 merit a post there have been so many good, informative, pertinent posts i have started running out again.

i try to spread the merits over that 30 day to the second shelf life thing but i sometimes have extend time away (well days) from the forum and that messes things up a bit.

i may be sporadic in where i read but i try to also read around the forums sections in general as much as i can rather than concentrate in one particular spot.  that of course again varies with time.

but my aim is always to be near out of merit. collectibles these arent.

[TheBeardedBaby]

so now im here too, requesting an increase.

turns out even trying to limit to 1 merit a post there have been so many good, informative, pertinent posts i have started running out again.

i try to spread the merits over that 30 day to the second shelf life thing but i sometimes have extend time away (well days) from the forum and that messes things up a bit.

i may be sporadic in where i read but i try to also read around the forums sections in general as much as i can rather than concentrate in one particular spot.  that of course again varies with time.

but my aim is always to be near out of merit. collectibles these arent.

That is good, I will add you to the list as well, tomorrow.
My phone is with a broken screen now and it's really difficult to edit and write posts. It will be like this for a while. Sorry if there are many typos in my posts.

Updated.

[hugeblack]

I am here again, in fact, I am getting enough Merits per month "at a rate of 1 sMerit for posts with good content and 2 for 4 sMerits for posts with high content" but I decided to be generous (2 to 6 sMerits) and give more which made me run out faster.

If there is an adjustment, please add me, otherwise I am happy with the current situation. ~3XX/ Month.

[fillippone]

Merit allowance is always scarce.
I tend to regulate my meriting habits according to my MS sMerit allowance + personal sMerit stash, in order to deplete smoothly over 30 days.
So I am rarely bumbing into 0 merits to send, but it has happened a few times in the past. I was able to save the very good posts for later, but I might have skipped a few good ones.
 
More sMerits is better, but I trust theymos: if you want to inrease my MS source allowance, I'm ready and willing to!
If themyos walked down the road of any "AI controlled rebalancing algorithm", I'm also ok with that.
Just I don't want me not posting into this thread being interpreted as I weren't interested in having my MS sMerits allowance increased!

[gmaxwell]

I would expect all merit sources to get adjusted again in May:  Last adjustment was in November and used the prior six months of data.

[fillippone]

I would expect all merit sources to get adjusted again in May:  Last adjustment was in November and used the prior six months of data.

This is what I understood reading between the lines of last message by Theymos. But I think also some "manual adjustment" is still possible, that's why I am posting here. 

[TheBeardedBaby]

I would expect all merit sources to get adjusted again in May:  Last adjustment was in November and used the prior six months of data.

Sounds fair to me, this explians why it took some months to get the MS application approved of one of the best sources out there - LoyceV.
Anyway, hope this thread will save theymos some time.
OP updated!

Bump!

[cabalism13]

[TheBeardedBaby]

This thread is not dead, it's just waiting for the right time to remind theymos of the change we/you want. According to gmaxwell that should happen around May so we have some time.
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[fillippone]

This thread is not dead, it's just waiting for the right time to remind theymos of the change we/you want. According to gmaxwell that should happen around May so we have some time.
bumpity bump bump

Am I wrong or the supposedly revision of merit allowance (6 month from last reallocation) is going to overlap with halving? Interesting times ahead!

[JayJuanGee]

This thread is not dead, it's just waiting for the right time to remind theymos of the change we/you want. According to gmaxwell that should happen around May so we have some time.
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Am I wrong or the supposedly revision of merit allowance (6 month from last reallocation) is going to overlap with halving? Interesting times ahead!

If any of you recall, last time we had disclosures of more than a merit doubling for many merit sources that was in mid-November, at least that was disclosed by some smerit sources...  nearly a tripling for several sources.  

At the same time some smerit sources got cut in the fail to use and therefore lose kind of outcome.

Even though I would hate to go against any strongly held gmaxwell predictions, especially if I were to be playing against some of gmaxwell's strong suits, I am going to proclaim that theymos has not specifically committed to 6 months in the case of smerits, he has merely proclaimed that he will look at smerits from time to time, as far as I recall.  

Anyhow, seems difficult to wager upon theymos specifics, and even if he will tweak the smerit allocations in any kind of clockwork way because I don't recall that theymos had really stated that level of specifics with any actual words, so gmaxwell had been applying an algorithm to theymos, and maybe theymos is actually a computer program, and gmaxwell knows about that (cats out of the bag - you heard it here first)?

Remember with the default trust, theymos said something like he would adjust default trust list of 100 DT1s at "about" the beginning of each month, but I don't recall coming across anything even close to that level of specifics from theymos in regards to any 6 months/merit tweakenings even if such past practice of 6 months is identifiable.  

TLDR:  Personally, based on information outlined above, I am assigning 56.5/43.5 odds, at best, in favor of smerit tweakenings within 10 days of the halvening.

[fillippone]

This thread is not dead, it's just waiting for the right time to remind theymos of the change we/you want. According to gmaxwell that should happen around May so we have some time.
bumpity bump bump

Am I wrong or the supposedly revision of merit allowance (6 month from last reallocation) is going to overlap with halving? Interesting times ahead!

If any of you recall, last time we had disclosures of more than a merit doubling for many merit sources that was in mid-November, at least that was disclosed by some smerit sources...  nearly a tripling for several sources. 

At the same time some smerit sources got cut in the fail to use and therefore lose kind of outcome.

Even though I would hate to go against any strongly held gmaxwell predictions, especially if I were to be playing against some of gmaxwell's strong suits, I am going to proclaim that theymos has not specifically committed to 6 months in the case of smerits, he has merely proclaimed that he will look at smerits from time to time, as far as I recall. 

Anyhow, seems difficult to wager upon theymos specifics, and even if he will tweak the smerit allocations in any kind of clockwork way because I don't recall that theymos had really stated that level of specifics with any actual words, so gmaxwell had been applying an algorithm to theymos, and maybe theymos is actually a computer program, and gmaxwell knows about that (cats out of the bag - you heard it here first)?

Remember with the default trust, theymos said something like he would adjust default trust list of 100 DT1s at "about" the beginning of each month, but I don't recall coming across anything even close to that level of specifics from theymos in regards to any 6 months/merit tweakenings even if such past practice of 6 months is identifiable. 

TLDR:  I am assigning 56.5/43.5 odds, at best, in favor of smerit tweakenings within 10 days of the halvening.

The 6 months prediction came out of the length of the averaging window used by Theymos last time. 
So yes, he did mentioned back in November that new merit allowance is based on the average on the past 6 months total spent sMerits.
So yes, he didn't mention explicitly another rebalance in exactly 6 months.