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November 12, 2019, 07:17:03 PM
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the problem is that these DEXes that we see today aren't really "decentralized exchanges" in my opinion.

a decentralized exchange in its true form must not contain any kind of middle man whatsoever which means there is absolutely  NO FEES  involved when using a "true DEX". the exchange will only be between two parties through a secure channel using cryptography, hashed locktime smart contracts similar to what bitcoin has and the only fee is the transaction (aka network) fees.
with introduction of Atomic Swap technology which majority of altcoins (since they are copies of bitcoin) have this becomes an even bigger reality.

as a result i don't think there is going to be that much "fees" to earn from DEXes in the future as the current design will become obsolete eventually too. just like the centralized "altcoin" exchanges (not those that have fiat involved) will become obsolete too.

Blocknet, as mentioned by the OP, actually is 100% decentralized. It's a 4th gen DEX, check the pic below Wink

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November 13, 2019, 02:30:19 AM
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I really like decentralized exchanges and I hope that they will become popular in 2020. However, many people do not use decentralized exchanges due to trading volume.

honestly, it is not just the trading volume that I consider in choosing an exchange. I am also not certain to connect my wallet directly to the dex exchange, though I have the private key, the regulation, and convenience that a centralized exchange is what I want to consider. Most of the time, the volume in DEX is determined by traders, and it might not be the reason why people don't want to trade in DEX since the volume can be achieve if the crpyto do really is performing well in the market. It is the regulation that centralized exchange provides, despite of wallet security or also known as "not your keys, not your coins".
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November 13, 2019, 07:09:22 PM
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I really like decentralized exchanges and I hope that they will become popular in 2020. However, many people do not use decentralized exchanges due to trading volume.

honestly, it is not just the trading volume that I consider in choosing an exchange. I am also not certain to connect my wallet directly to the dex exchange, though I have the private key, the regulation, and convenience that a centralized exchange is what I want to consider. Most of the time, the volume in DEX is determined by traders, and it might not be the reason why people don't want to trade in DEX since the volume can be achieve if the crpyto do really is performing well in the market. It is the regulation that centralized exchange provides, despite of wallet security or also known as "not your keys, not your coins".

True! A friend of mine has traded on DEX's for a few months already, and otherwise used exchanges with no KYC. He's a very "private" person, told me NOT to tell anyone of our friends that he even owns any crypto.
There's a LOT of people who straight up AVOID exchanges with KYC, because they want to remain private. Makes sense, it's the reason BTC was created in the first place. It's nobodys business what you trade and hold.
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November 13, 2019, 07:40:08 PM
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I really like decentralized exchanges and I hope that they will become popular in 2020. However, many people do not use decentralized exchanges due to trading volume.

honestly, it is not just the trading volume that I consider in choosing an exchange. I am also not certain to connect my wallet directly to the dex exchange, though I have the private key, the regulation, and convenience that a centralized exchange is what I want to consider. Most of the time, the volume in DEX is determined by traders, and it might not be the reason why people don't want to trade in DEX since the volume can be achieve if the crpyto do really is performing well in the market. It is the regulation that centralized exchange provides, despite of wallet security or also known as "not your keys, not your coins".

True! A friend of mine has traded on DEX's for a few months already, and otherwise used exchanges with no KYC. He's a very "private" person, told me NOT to tell anyone of our friends that he even owns any crypto.
There's a LOT of people who straight up AVOID exchanges with KYC, because they want to remain private. Makes sense, it's the reason BTC was created in the first place. It's nobodys business what you trade and hold.

Guess what? KYC/AML is coming to every exchange, be it a CEX or a DEX.
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November 14, 2019, 07:08:23 PM
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I really like decentralized exchanges and I hope that they will become popular in 2020. However, many people do not use decentralized exchanges due to trading volume.

honestly, it is not just the trading volume that I consider in choosing an exchange. I am also not certain to connect my wallet directly to the dex exchange, though I have the private key, the regulation, and convenience that a centralized exchange is what I want to consider. Most of the time, the volume in DEX is determined by traders, and it might not be the reason why people don't want to trade in DEX since the volume can be achieve if the crpyto do really is performing well in the market. It is the regulation that centralized exchange provides, despite of wallet security or also known as "not your keys, not your coins".

True! A friend of mine has traded on DEX's for a few months already, and otherwise used exchanges with no KYC. He's a very "private" person, told me NOT to tell anyone of our friends that he even owns any crypto.
There's a LOT of people who straight up AVOID exchanges with KYC, because they want to remain private. Makes sense, it's the reason BTC was created in the first place. It's nobodys business what you trade and hold.

Guess what? KYC/AML is coming to every exchange, be it a CEX or a DEX.

No it's not. What makes you even think that? A real DEX is not owned by anyone. Based on your logic, everyone of us would have to undergo KYC every time we access the internet, which isn't true at all. Use a prepaid phone, and jump on an open Wifi connection, and you're pretty much anonymous.

I think you need to do some research here buddy, as decentralized trading works just like when you download torrents. These transactions happens between users, and no one else.
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November 14, 2019, 07:14:57 PM
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I really like decentralized exchanges and I hope that they will become popular in 2020. However, many people do not use decentralized exchanges due to trading volume.

honestly, it is not just the trading volume that I consider in choosing an exchange. I am also not certain to connect my wallet directly to the dex exchange, though I have the private key, the regulation, and convenience that a centralized exchange is what I want to consider. Most of the time, the volume in DEX is determined by traders, and it might not be the reason why people don't want to trade in DEX since the volume can be achieve if the crpyto do really is performing well in the market. It is the regulation that centralized exchange provides, despite of wallet security or also known as "not your keys, not your coins".

True! A friend of mine has traded on DEX's for a few months already, and otherwise used exchanges with no KYC. He's a very "private" person, told me NOT to tell anyone of our friends that he even owns any crypto.
There's a LOT of people who straight up AVOID exchanges with KYC, because they want to remain private. Makes sense, it's the reason BTC was created in the first place. It's nobodys business what you trade and hold.

Guess what? KYC/AML is coming to every exchange, be it a CEX or a DEX.

No it's not. What makes you even think that? A real DEX is not owned by anyone. Based on your logic, everyone of us would have to undergo KYC every time we access the internet, which isn't true at all. Use a prepaid phone, and jump on an open Wifi connection, and you're pretty much anonymous.

I think you need to do some research here buddy, as decentralized trading works just like when you download torrents. These transactions happens between users, and no one else.

Several DEX are owned by people just like Mcaffees and Ivanov, there is a possibility that they may ask KYC if government asks them to. The one DEX that might not really be compromised by government is blocknet since you can install the exchange itself. The problem with blocknet is that there isn't much coins listed to it, they don't even have ETH there.




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November 14, 2019, 08:24:25 PM
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It goes to show how huge crypto is becoming.. These exchanges keep raking on serious profits in fees and charges. No wonder a lot of prospective project developers are going into exchange developments. Truth is, this will get even bigger with more crypto adoption and recognition.
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November 14, 2019, 11:27:37 PM
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It goes to show how huge crypto is becoming.. These exchanges keep raking on serious profits in fees and charges. No wonder a lot of prospective project developers are going into exchange developments. Truth is, this will get even bigger with more crypto adoption and recognition.
I ask you, how much DEX are getting huge volumes these days? compared with the centralized exchange site and DEX is charing a little fee caused by anytime you must pay to the blockchain and not with the developer of the dex. The majority of developers are going for centralized exchange site

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November 15, 2019, 02:00:29 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong but I was thinking about this. Aren't Dex fees very similar to a casinoes house edge? If you keep waging your balance eventually you will lose it all. If you kee trading your crypto back and forth you will eventually pay it through fees to wouldn't you? If you get 0.2% on each trade eventually you will end up with very little. If you trade back and forth for the same things just for argument's sake so this will all work.
Now think about the capital and how much that gets moved around. Now the exchange gets a fee on every single one of those movements even if the movement is the exact same crypto moving again. So, in theory, you could move the crypto back and forth until there is nothing left and you have paid it all-in fees. Can you imagine how much money these people are constantly making with all that movement? It must be nice to just sit back and watch your income rolling in like that.

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November 15, 2019, 03:30:49 AM
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To be honest, I prefer DEX to CEX. But the problem is with promotion. At CEX more promotions are done just to give free crypto so people are swayed by it. They always make hype one after another endlessly and this is done by all CEX. So there is no best choice for someone other than following them.
I think if DEX did the same thing it would definitely be very competitive with CEX. Moreover, many people are lazy to reveal their identities just to sell their crypto assets.



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November 15, 2019, 05:38:03 AM
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Some people love DEX because they are more simple than other markets. Because some people do not want to give up their identity when trading or commonly referred to as KYC.
Choose Dex to replace it including I was very good though DEX is still not crowded with markets like Binance, IDEX includes the lively DEX used by people to trade.

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November 15, 2019, 11:26:31 PM
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I really like decentralized exchanges and I hope that they will become popular in 2020. However, many people do not use decentralized exchanges due to trading volume.

honestly, it is not just the trading volume that I consider in choosing an exchange. I am also not certain to connect my wallet directly to the dex exchange, though I have the private key, the regulation, and convenience that a centralized exchange is what I want to consider. Most of the time, the volume in DEX is determined by traders, and it might not be the reason why people don't want to trade in DEX since the volume can be achieve if the crpyto do really is performing well in the market. It is the regulation that centralized exchange provides, despite of wallet security or also known as "not your keys, not your coins".

True! A friend of mine has traded on DEX's for a few months already, and otherwise used exchanges with no KYC. He's a very "private" person, told me NOT to tell anyone of our friends that he even owns any crypto.
There's a LOT of people who straight up AVOID exchanges with KYC, because they want to remain private. Makes sense, it's the reason BTC was created in the first place. It's nobodys business what you trade and hold.

Guess what? KYC/AML is coming to every exchange, be it a CEX or a DEX.

No it's not. What makes you even think that? A real DEX is not owned by anyone. Based on your logic, everyone of us would have to undergo KYC every time we access the internet, which isn't true at all. Use a prepaid phone, and jump on an open Wifi connection, and you're pretty much anonymous.

I think you need to do some research here buddy, as decentralized trading works just like when you download torrents. These transactions happens between users, and no one else.

Several DEX are owned by people just like Mcaffees and Ivanov, there is a possibility that they may ask KYC if government asks them to. The one DEX that might not really be compromised by government is blocknet since you can install the exchange itself. The problem with blocknet is that there isn't much coins listed to it, they don't even have ETH there.





A DEX is not owned by ANYONE. Jesus christ, does nobody here even understand what a REAL DEX is? A real DEX is DECENTRALIZED - Meaning NO one controls it. Sure you can "start/launch" it, but once you've done that, it's no longer in YOUR control. Any "DEX" claiming otherwise, is not a real DEX. Simple as that.

This means, that while the devs are asked to pull down their DEX nodes by the governments because it's "illegal", it doesn't make the DEX dissapear. It's the same as when they shut down ThePirateBay. Did torrents and file sharing die? NO!!!!

Not trying to offend anyone here, but it frustrates me that nobody seems to understand the bigger picture here!

It goes to show how huge crypto is becoming.. These exchanges keep raking on serious profits in fees and charges. No wonder a lot of prospective project developers are going into exchange developments. Truth is, this will get even bigger with more crypto adoption and recognition.
I ask you, how much DEX are getting huge volumes these days? compared with the centralized exchange site and DEX is charing a little fee caused by anytime you must pay to the blockchain and not with the developer of the dex. The majority of developers are going for centralized exchange site

What is your point? That's like arguing back in 2010, that BTC was useless, because it didn't have an exchange? Or claiming that Facebook would never succeed, because we had Myspace.. The crypto world is forever changing, and if you invest based on what's happening RIGHT NOW, contra what you believe will be BIG someday, you wont profit as much.

This is the same logic as saying: "Naah, Why would I buy BNB coins for $0.1. This exchange has NO VOLUME" Yet we've seen the price rise to $20+ since these guys listened to the crypto community.
Let me ask you a different question, WHY did Binance launch their OWN "DEX" ? Answer me that. Wink
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November 24, 2019, 08:29:46 PM
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Opening a DEX is one thing, getting people to use it is another thing, same applies with Centralised exchanges, many has come and gone and some didn't even last long at all because of lack of users, you cannot make money from trading fees where there are no trades, it's not easy to run an exchange, these day opening it seems to be the easiest part, growing it organically is now the complicated part.

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November 26, 2019, 04:59:59 AM
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Many are called but few are chosen, it might look glorious from the outside but when you take the time to calculate the DEXs that has launched and failed or are just dormant, you would know that it's not easy at all, one of the major challenges is users, the market conditions are making new traders quit and the old traders are set in their ways, having already found the exchange that they think is right for them, so they wouldn't leave it to come trade in a new DEX.

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November 26, 2019, 05:07:23 AM
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Coinbase is not a decentralised Exchange and shouldn't be used as an example, what you should use as an example is Idex which is the decentralised exchange with the highest number of users but we know how long that exchange has been around, launching an exchange now is not the best if decisions especially in this market conditions when even established exchanges are shutting down because of bankruptcy, DEXs are really struggling to keep up since more and more traders prefer to trade in CEX.
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December 02, 2019, 11:53:29 AM
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CEX exchanges like ecxx are normally better because they have more liquidity but DEXs are better for people who want more privacy and security.
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December 02, 2019, 07:08:29 PM
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Coinbase is not a decentralised Exchange and shouldn't be used as an example, what you should use as an example is Idex which is the decentralised exchange with the highest number of users but we know how long that exchange has been around, launching an exchange now is not the best if decisions especially in this market conditions when even established exchanges are shutting down because of bankruptcy, DEXs are really struggling to keep up since more and more traders prefer to trade in CEX.

Wrong. IDEX is NOT a real DEX, since it's CENTRALIZED. You can't run a DEX, and at the same time enforce KYC. A real DEX cannot be shut down, is not owned by any companies, and doesn't require KYC, or submission of any personal details.

Unbelievable that SO many people have no clue what a real DEX looks like. The Binance "DEX" is not a true DEX either btw.
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December 03, 2019, 07:39:51 PM
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Coinbase is not a decentralised Exchange and shouldn't be used as an example, what you should use as an example is Idex which is the decentralised exchange with the highest number of users but we know how long that exchange has been around, launching an exchange now is not the best if decisions especially in this market conditions when even established exchanges are shutting down because of bankruptcy, DEXs are really struggling to keep up since more and more traders prefer to trade in CEX.

Wrong. IDEX is NOT a real DEX, since it's CENTRALIZED. You can't run a DEX, and at the same time enforce KYC. A real DEX cannot be shut down, is not owned by any companies, and doesn't require KYC, or submission of any personal details.

Unbelievable that SO many people have no clue what a real DEX looks like. The Binance "DEX" is not a true DEX either btw.

Thank you.. Finally someone who actually understands it. When trying to explain how a real DEX works, I typically try to compare it with downloading of torrents from ThePirateBay, which works in a similar way. ThePirateBay doesn't own the torrents, they simply link to them, which is the the same as a DEX is doing, linking peers together so they can trade with each other.
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December 04, 2019, 07:40:59 PM
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Coinbase is not a decentralised Exchange and shouldn't be used as an example, what you should use as an example is Idex which is the decentralised exchange with the highest number of users but we know how long that exchange has been around, launching an exchange now is not the best if decisions especially in this market conditions when even established exchanges are shutting down because of bankruptcy, DEXs are really struggling to keep up since more and more traders prefer to trade in CEX.

IDEX is NOT a DEX.

Good god, it's easy to fool people these days. You think a DEX can enforce KYC on it's users? Really? That's like asking the users of "ThePirateBay" to submit their passport ID before downloading. Come on now…

There's only a few real DEX's out there, and the Waves DEX, just moved to a hybrid solution, meaning it's no longer a real DEX, I'm guessing they want more "control" over their users, which is impossible on a DEX.

Please do some research on this topic to better understand how a DEX works.
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