Farm of 10 Copper Members.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Yesterday, I found some Russian bounty cheaters. I was interested in sending Merit account TheICE007 Merit seller.

Merits were handed out on the same day 2018-09-17 6:20:00 PM at the same time.
This may indicate the sale of merit.

Next, I decided to read the cabinet of this account.

Eth Address: 0x7cDCF77733f88467E6424E8f8933cb3D057bDb54

https://archive.ph/Q8jZg

Then I checked all matches by number.

Facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/favoured.hart.5
Eth address: 0x7cDCF77733f88467E6424E8f8933cb3D057bDb54

https://archive.ph/SUUWi
Favouredhart Autoban user, but he has an account that evades the ban.

Jannyh

https://www.facebook.com/favoured.hart.5
Eth Address: 0xE2b17b822aC373eD1ed5a0b6F06Ff8Fa878eD836

https://archive.ph/HYRVt

And if you look at transactions by tokens, the most interesting story begins.


There are many token transactions per wallet. All transfers belong to a farm of 10 live accounts.

Chomsy Copper Member
Jannyh Copper Member
Dannev Jr. Member
Ifychuks    Copper Member
Globen  Copper Member
Waltermeks Jr. Member
deodivine1  Copper Member
Ebubuemma  Newbie
Blesko  Copper Member
chuksmy Newbie

https://etherscan.io/address/0xfa5b136320fc80b569b949b2a70d2f62a20d3d40#tokentxns
https://archive.ph/ERerf   Address 0xFA5b136320fc80B569B949B2a70d2F62A20d3d40


Chomsy Copper Member

ERC20 Wallet: 0x2249C7eEd5CF914d391916E2736774Bfb5Db4905

https://archive.ph/ec0ui

Jannyh Copper Member

ETH Address:  0xE2b17b822aC373eD1ed5a0b6F06Ff8Fa878eD836

https://archive.ph/pOLpy

Dannev Jr. Member

ERC20 Wallet: 0xBA0F56F913640CBC2f00a1E99eEBc4d0b7A392B3

https://archive.ph/D7iuU

Ifychuks    Copper Member

ERC20 Wallet: 0x95ddc55F740E6C7CebAB638F7E8748c7826b56C8

https://archive.ph/u0iZV

Globen  Copper Member

Eth Address: 0xF9356dEBb6D7a9e511d13D3e58591b5E1B69c2EC

https://archive.ph/cmSA4#selection-751.0-751.55

Waltermeks Jr. Member

ERC-20 wallet: 0x7B38c51e3485BA181e8b0fc918997B375eEF2417

https://archive.ph/AbQAi

deodivine1  Copper Member

ERC20 Wallet: 0xd84cD30cCEeA61e6D14D97BdAf22E0a8C55fcF1A

https://archive.ph/ncV6T

Ebubuemma  Newbie

ERC20 Wallet: 0xEe9C88ca223A65E297CbF3b32fc0dAdfDc31AF24

https://archive.ph/53nAI

Blesko    Copper Member

ERC20 Wallet: 0x419A0a8f9fd052c57Ff1a8638df22aaaf2Ea642d

https://archive.ph/uxGcH

chuksmy Newbie

ERC20 Wallet: 0x6D6Cf199B1Dbf90e0685D00a91eEE8AC8D2375c4

https://archive.ph/0YykS

All these accounts repeatedly participated in the same subscription companies.
E3T - BOUNTY CAMPAIGN
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q-ppPPnLmLEx-VQdvboTB9alFHJ8W_0ZujlTxPk0NQw/edit#gid=92258037

StableDEX Bounty Campaign
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fx91aiBWxHvsDD6hn3NXLoS6d5VjJHVfbicEQmMHER8/edit#gid=325377537

[deodivine1]

PLEASE I AM NOT GUILTY OF ACCLAIMED ACCUSATION & RED TRUST

Greetings, first of all let me commend you for trying to sanitize this forum by trying to spot bounty cheats. I was a victim here but I'm not in anyway guilty of the acclaimed accusation or red trust.

I am in same crypto group with some guys on the list on whatsapp and someone posted the image of this thread which resulted to my red trust. I do transact and share reliable bounties sometimes with members of the WhatsApp group and the last time I transacted was TAN (taklimakan) I sent to someone (Chomsy) to help me sell on cointiger, since the exchange has issues loading on my mobile device. I think my last transaction connected me to this accusation but I have proof to defend myself.

Below is my proof, uploaded to Google drive:
First ( the guy who posted image of this thread in my WhatsApp group)

Next 👇is my chat with Chomsy who helped me sell TAN last after the bounty and is also a victim here: (you can check the conversation date)

🔗 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1Rt206lJOw3hxZv8H83QNgv2R_PiIlAj1

You also mentioned that we are on same bounty spreadsheet, like I said some of us are in same crypto group and share info and even chat privately. Below is my proof of my chat with chomsy about E3T.
Here 🔗 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1-TZo-W84UjSB55c-edRK877IfpRHYl3O

Please  you can check it, the very day I said I will do E3T (5th November 2019) on the screenshot is same as my E3T proof of authentication 👉  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194523.msg52987646#msg52987646

I also share many groups in common with chomsy. See proof here 👉 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-gyquDh7bIvJHm1eRElnNgiRk4Fwm7A_/view?usp=drivesdk

I hope the red trust on my account is removed after seeing my proof, since it will be so unfair if it's still there, thanks and God bless you.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Can you explain why those transactions from different accounts came in within a few minutes from each other involving the same token of which on of the transaction was of your ETH account? Did they also agree to send in the tokens at the same time?

https://etherscan.io/address/0xfa5b136320fc80b569b949b2a70d2f62a20d3d40#tokentxns

If it was a deal between you and your "friend" then i guess it would just be only 1 or 2 transactions

[Globen]

I am also a victim here. CHOMSY  is in the same group with me, immediately I received the token, I was on may way travelling and as such network was fluctuating, I reached out to her to send me the exchange wallet she was about sending hers and immediately I sent sent token to her exchange wallet , I was surprised seeing this.

This accusation isn't right.

And please why am I having Red Trust? I am just seeing it. 

I am not Guilty

[Chomsy]

Can you explain why those transactions from different accounts came in within a few minutes from each other involving the same token of which on of the transaction was of your ETH account? Did they also agree to send in the tokens at the same time?

https://etherscan.io/address/0xfa5b136320fc80b569b949b2a70d2f62a20d3d40#tokentxns

If it was a deal between you and your "friend" then i guess it would just be only 1 or 2 transactions

I can explain this. All I need is a listening ear. When the payment from Taklimakan was made, I made announcement on the groups am in which resulted to the victims  asking me to help them sell immediately.

I dropped my exchange wallet for those who contacted me to sell and I have proof to my conversations with Globen, Ifychuks and Dannev that morning.

I'm just a victim of help here.

This is the link to a Google file containing screenshots of when and how I got to know about the negative trust, and my conversation in one of the groups with victims here as well.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1ZU5GSNiBQkk1V7STch9TlYcAucl_YU7e

I just hope the red trust is removed as I am not guilty of this.

[deodivine1]

Can you explain why those transactions from different accounts came in within a few minutes from each other involving the same token of which on of the transaction was of your ETH account? Did they also agree to send in the tokens at the same time?

https://etherscan.io/address/0xfa5b136320fc80b569b949b2a70d2f62a20d3d40#tokentxns

If it was a deal between you and your "friend" then i guess it would just be only 1 or 2 transactions

Tokens were distributed same time, we are in same crypto group and we update everyone when there is a necessary update for any bounty or project we invested in, even when tokens are distributed.  since chomsy agreed to sell on cointiger, I don't see any reason why it's bad to send to her within same timeframe to sell.

[dengineersprof]

This post is not enough to warrant a red trust in my opinion (although its subject to change after proof). Some of us needs to learn that bounty hunting is now a source of livelihood for many people in Asia and Africa. And thus there are bounty groups or communities scattered all over Whatsapp and Telegram.

Most of these people are friends and siblings and some help others trade in exchanges too (including otc).

Kindly re-evaluate your stance Op

[lovesmayfamilis]

but you know exactly what they'll say:  "We're in a team/family, we're all part of the same network", etc.

How familiar this is. We are family, friends, neighbors and blah blah. Somewhere I already saw it.
I will add a neutral feedback to everyone that all 10 people are on the team. And very often they are registered at the same companies. The rest is at the discretion of the managers.

[rhomelmabini]

bounty hunting is now a source of livelihood for many people in Asia and Africa.

That's poor mindset to think this forum will really earn much over a stable job and to be honest the thing that they are a family tree doing over a bounty is not reliable to tell. I have a hunch that there are only few people that control these accounts and just saying they are a community or a family bounty hunters, that line made a millions already you may tell that to a noob.

[dengineersprof]

bounty hunting is now a source of livelihood for many people in Asia and Africa.

That's poor mindset to think this forum will really earn much over a stable job and to be honest the thing that they are a family tree doing over a bounty is not reliable to tell. I have a hunch that there are only few people that control these accounts and just saying they are a community or a family bounty hunters, that line made a millions already you may tell that to a noob.

Its no poor mindset its a fact. More than half the world is poor and many depend on crypto for endsmeet. I can get you stats on this but its not the point anyway.

I am not saying that there are no account farmers but we must still not neglect the fact that some hunters sell coins for some hunter. Yes, this is a fact too. And untill Bitcointalk criminalises it, i see it continuing. As we speak. My TAN tokens is currently in the hands of my Bangladesh friend Saheeb. He is yet to sell.

Anyways, good job by the OP and i hope that collectively we can make Bitcointalk a better place. Thank you

[The Sceptical Chymist]

As we speak. My TAN tokens is currently in the hands of my Bangladesh friend Saheeb. He is yet to sell.

What is the advantage of doing that, may I ask?  And I'm genuinely curious about this, because obviously we've all seen this before and besides being the perfect excuse for employing alt accounts to abuse bounties it seems irrational--to me, at least.  I'd like to know why people give control of their tokens or coins to family members/friends.

In any case, I've started giving such members the benefit of the doubt and don't tag them anymore based on this kind of evidence.  That's just me, though.  Part of me believes it's just a lie to cover up abuse in bounties, but part of me just doesn't know.

Oh yeah, I'd like to see that data about this:

More than half the world is poor and many depend on crypto for endsmeet. I can get you stats on this but its not the point anyway.

You can PM me with it if you like.

[Ebubuemma]

Someone just called me now from the group to tell me what happened. I hardly visit the group but I always get direct informations from my friends there. I'm just a victim like the other persons mentioned.

[TryNinja]

Its no poor mindset its a fact. More than half the world is poor and many depend on crypto for endsmeet. I can get you stats on this but its not the point anyway.

I am not saying that there are no account farmers but we must still not neglect the fact that some hunters sell coins for some hunter. Yes, this is a fact too. And untill Bitcointalk criminalises it, i see it continuing. As we speak. My TAN tokens is currently in the hands of my Bangladesh friend Saheeb. He is yet to sell.

Anyways, good job by the OP and i hope that collectively we can make Bitcointalk a better place. Thank you

Then you should do more for the forum and treat your “place of work” with some respect other than just spam it with bounty reports and nothing else. The problem are the leeches that only want the money. The forum is doing wonders for them by giving them a living and yet they can’t spend a single hour actually reading the forum and trying to contribute to it. How hard could be that? You get a “job” and yet you do it in the laziest way possible. Ingratitude.

[dengineersprof]

As we speak. My TAN tokens is currently in the hands of my Bangladesh friend Saheeb. He is yet to sell.

What is the advantage of doing that, may I ask?  And I'm genuinely curious about this, because obviously we've all seen this before and besides being the perfect excuse for employing alt accounts to abuse bounties it seems irrational--to me, at least.  I'd like to know why people give control of their tokens or coins to family members/friends.

In any case, I've started giving such members the benefit of the doubt and don't tag them anymore based on this kind of evidence.  That's just me, though.  Part of me believes it's just a lie to cover up abuse in bounties, but part of me just doesn't know.

Oh yeah, I'd like to see that data about this:

More than half the world is poor and many depend on crypto for endsmeet. I can get you stats on this but its not the point anyway.

You can PM me with it if you like.

I sent you a pm bud

[dengineersprof]

Its no poor mindset its a fact. More than half the world is poor and many depend on crypto for endsmeet. I can get you stats on this but its not the point anyway.

I am not saying that there are no account farmers but we must still not neglect the fact that some hunters sell coins for some hunter. Yes, this is a fact too. And untill Bitcointalk criminalises it, i see it continuing. As we speak. My TAN tokens is currently in the hands of my Bangladesh friend Saheeb. He is yet to sell.

Anyways, good job by the OP and i hope that collectively we can make Bitcointalk a better place. Thank you

Then you should do more for the forum and treat your “place of work” with some respect other than just spam it with bounty reports and nothing else. The problem are the leeches that only want the money. The forum is doing wonders for them by giving them a living and yet they can’t spend a single hour actually reading the forum and trying to contribute to it. How hard could be that? You get a “job” and yet you do it in the laziest way possible. Ingratitude.

I agree. More respect should be given.

[Coin_trader]

but you know exactly what they'll say:  "We're in a team/family, we're all part of the same network", etc.

How familiar this is. We are family, friends, neighbors and blah blah. Somewhere I already saw it.
I will add a neutral feedback to everyone that all 10 people are on the team. And very often they are registered at the same companies. The rest is at the discretion of the managers.

Holy mowly fckn shit is that picture. This really made my day! 

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@OP, You should give them a negative tag instead of neutral. They are obviously controlled by one user. The timing of the accounts posting here is very consistent.
You are just very nice to give them the benefit of the doubt.

[TryNinja]

I agree. More respect should be given.

Then give it more respect. The rant was also directed to you. Take a look at your post history. All I can see are bounty reports and some generic shitposts on the Altcoin board.

[KTChampions]

I believe that someone who has not made a note in the accounts of relatives / friends about their connection and begins to tell "stories" only after the abuse is found should blame himself.
Even if the “story” is true (I’m talking about theory and not about this case), then the one who hid the connection between accounts (while performing actions that are regarded as abuse) should be red tagged. He took the risks, these are his problems and responsibility.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I believe that someone who has not made a note in the accounts of relatives / friends about their connection and begins to tell "stories" only after the abuse is found should blame himself.

Yeah, but the problem with this is that I don't think any new bounty hunters ever bother to read any threads in Meta, Reputation, or Scam Accusations and don't realize that many bounty hunting "families" have gotten red-trusted because they apparently shared a wallet and were linked to each other through blockchain evidence.  Thus they have no way of knowing beforehand that this might be a possibility and wouldn't even think to tell anyone in advance of their plans.

Not that I think such a warning would be believed anyway.  We've seen so many instances of alt accounts abusing bounties that it sounds like just another far-fetched excuse by members trying to get their tag removed. 

I did get a PM from dengineersprof, who gave one reasonable explanation as to why bounty hunters might share a wallet, and I'm not sure why he didn't just post it here.  I'll leave it to him to do that if he wants, because I don't want to quote the PM in public since he might not want me to.

[KTChampions]

I believe that someone who has not made a note in the accounts of relatives / friends about their connection and begins to tell "stories" only after the abuse is found should blame himself.

Yeah, but the problem with this is that I don't think any new bounty hunters ever bother to read any threads in Meta, Reputation, or Scam Accusations and don't realize that many bounty hunting "families" have gotten red-trusted because they apparently shared a wallet and were linked to each other through blockchain evidence.  Thus they have no way of knowing beforehand that this might be a possibility and wouldn't even think to tell anyone in advance of their plans.

But in this case, everything turns out very fairly - the one who does not read the rules (actually does not respect the forum and its participants) receives a penalty.