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November 10, 2019, 10:48:54 AM
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It always have been my 'wet dream' to bet on sports without any risk involved. During the past few years I tried out many things to decrease or even exclude the risks of loosing money. I have tried value betting, arbitrage betting, system betting and some other things. But at the end every strategy had its issues so it wasn't what I was searching for.

But now I found a way how I can bet without risking to loose even a single penny. I can put 100s of Dollar in weekly sports bets with the guarantee to get back all the money I wagered even when every bet goes wrong. So this way of betting will guarantee you 100% sure profits. cause your stake back is guaranteed and unlimited. So every dollar you win is pure profits. This is not a fast rich opportunity but you can make real profits.

The only disadvantage is that the platform that offers this opportunity does not accept crypto payments and they do require a kyc procedure.
But for every problem there are solutions. So I am thinking about creating a group and do this together. I have a fully verified account over there.


How in earth can you bet risk free?


Read this carefully cause this is the only way in the world to bet risk free!!!!

I am a syndicate captain on that platform and one of the privileges of being a captain is that you can earn a 10% rebate on all your personal created syndicate pools. This rebate is based on your total value of personal created syndicates in the previous week. As a captain you are guaranteed a 5% rebate from the first syndicate you create and this increases to 7.5% when placing more than 250€ and the full 10% if you place over 750€ in total value.
There only is 1 obligation for syncicate captains. this requirement is that as a captain you must at least fund your own syndicates with a minimum of 10%. This means if you create a 25€ syndicate, I as syndicate captain, need to fund that syndicate with a minimum of 2.5€.


And this is the key of my risk free betting method. I first didnt believe it but I had contact with their support and they confirmed it indeed worked this way and that the rebate amount is unlimited. Just check out the example and then you understand.


Example

I have 500€ in my captain account.

I go through the available syndicates and after selecting the pools I want to join I create 10 syndicate with each a value of 750€. In every syndicate I make the minimum 10% captain contribution. So in total I add 75€ to all the syndicates.

So after placing the syndicates my balance is 425€ (500 minus the 75 I added to the syndicates)

But guess what. Because I placed a total of 750€ I qualified for the 10% captain rebate. And guess what the value of the 10% rebate is exactly the same as what I have put in the syndicates myself. Total amount of the syndicates is 750€ so I qualified for the 10% rebate. 10% of 750€ means a rebate of 75€.

And thats the magic about this. I paid 75€ min contribution to my own syndicates. And because I qualified for the 10% rebate I receive back 75€. So guess what I own 10% of 750€ total value in betting tickets entirely risk free cause the rebate is equal to my personal contribution.




Lets say 1 of the tickets made a 500€ profit. Then my end balance will be 550€

500€ start - 75€ captain contribution -> 425€
500€ winnings/ 10%                        -> +50€              550€ end  balance
10% rebate                                    ->  +75€

Lets say all bets were lost. Then my end balance will exactly be the same as my start balance

500€ start - 75€ captain contribution -> 425€
0 winnings                                       -> + 0€               500 end balance
10% rebate.                                    -> +75€



So no matter what happens in the bets there are 2 possible outcomes. Or I end session in profit or I end session break even. What do you think about that? Is this a risk free betting method or not?
And I am not talking bullshit. You can contact their support yourself and they will confirm that captain are able to gamble 'for free'




But like I said unfortunately this platform does not offer crypto payments and they do require a kyc verification which include id , proof of address and occasionally proof of your resources.


So there are 2 opportunities that you can benefit from. I dont know if I can advertise a site in the gambling discussion section. so that why I dont mention the site here.

·If you do not mind gambling with fiat and do not mind running through a kyc procedure then you can sign up and become a captain yourself.

·If you rather gamble with crypto and want to stay anonymous you can join our group and use your crypto. We can place all bets on your behalf through our verified account.




At this moment we also are looking for people that have a lot of knowledge of horse racing, NBA, NHL and NFL to become part of our group and start betting risk free.
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November 10, 2019, 02:18:38 PM
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Is this a risk free betting method or not?
I think this it's just another scam method.

However, if you feel the betting method was 100% guaranteed and they will never lose you can use it by yourself. We already have some scam method like this who offering a guarantee service tipster its an old method service for a scam dude, and other methods like script too. For me service like that its just the same service as Ponzi scheme who offered us a guaranteed profit if we invest on their platform.

Always things realistic, if they never lose the gamble/game why they need to invite somebody to join them? They can make money by themselves.

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November 10, 2019, 03:11:53 PM
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What's the name of the site?

This service that you're offering should be in IBG board or in services. It doesn't have anything to do with cryptocurrency gambling, you're just asking for money from other people. You're saying the site doesn't even support crypto.
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November 10, 2019, 03:49:50 PM
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Is this a risk free betting method or not?
I think this it's just another scam method.

However, if you feel the betting method was 100% guaranteed and they will never lose you can use it by yourself. We already have some scam method like this who offering a guarantee service tipster its an old method service for a scam dude, and other methods like script too. For me service like that its just the same service as Ponzi scheme who offered us a guaranteed profit if we invest on their platform.

Always things realistic, if they never lose the gamble/game why they need to invite somebody to join them? They can make money by themselves.

Not to be judgemental but I haven't seen any gamble that has 100% win rate, it is just to impossible, no matter how good the teams you are betting own there will always a time that they will lose so I doubt if this scheme really works. Well to those who want wanna try then try it at your own risk, just make sure you are ready for the consequences.
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November 10, 2019, 04:20:26 PM
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You have written a lot here about your break-even strategy. But in any case, someone must bear a loss when you do not correctly place a bet. Maybe you need to show the address of the site so that everyone can see where the error is made.

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November 10, 2019, 04:31:16 PM
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In my opinion, this is a networking syndicate because you will need a team to certainly done this let's say this method can be possible if done correctly but can you be so sure if the start money will be 500€ how can you be so sure it will end up with 500€ still, you are trusting the one that is playing gambling, what if he would loss his emotion and try to still gamble using that 500€ and what proof can you give us that this syndicate would not run our money? Because the name itself sounds very suspicious as well, Sorry but if there will be proof for people to really joined and post it in here I will then believe you with your shenanigans.
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November 10, 2019, 04:47:04 PM
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Is this a risk free betting method or not?
I think this it's just another scam method.

However, if you feel the betting method was 100% guaranteed and they will never lose you can use it by yourself. We already have some scam method like this who offering a guarantee service tipster its an old method service for a scam dude, and other methods like script too. For me service like that its just the same service as Ponzi scheme who offered us a guaranteed profit if we invest on their platform.

Always things realistic, if they never lose the gamble/game why they need to invite somebody to join them? They can make money by themselves.
A simple logic where anyone should think off first!

This is the only line that would answer all of those people who do have that guaranteed thing.Thinking off logically if they do had that 100% guaranteed money making
thing then they wont share this out to public but well we do know that theres no such thing about guaranteed thing on this world specially on sports betting.
So be cautious for newbies out there who do tend to join up to these so-called syndicate.lol

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November 10, 2019, 05:00:32 PM
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What's the name of the site?

This service that you're offering should be in IBG board or in services. It doesn't have anything to do with cryptocurrency gambling, you're just asking for money from other people. You're saying the site doesn't even support crypto.
I agree that it should be in service board. It may be consider as a gambling discussion thread since it is about betting a game like nba, boxing and other sports that you can bet. In my opinion, this thread is like a tipster thread but you won't be the one to bet. I don't find this as a recommended thing to do since there are tipster that you can check and not even a single site is mentioned on what site will be used to place bets.

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November 10, 2019, 09:06:24 PM
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ok ia m not luring in people. I am just showing there is a way to bet on sports risk free.

You can all check out on colossusbets.com. It is a very well reputed sited with UK gambling license.

You should check out their promotions. One of the promotions is the maximum of 10% rebate for syndicate captains.

And if you make a simple calculation. If you get 750€ or more total value in syndicates filled, you as captain receive a 10% rebate of the total value.
If you read a little further then you notice that the minimum contribution of a captain is 10%.

So if you put in only the 10% minimum captain contribution and you are able to get at least 750€ of syndicates filled you actually receive back the money you put in yourself.

just check out their website. Its far from a scam. they are running for years already. paid out over 30 million GBP and operate under a heavily controlled UK gambling license.

Check the article https://captain.colossusbets.com/?utm_source=CB.com%20Footer




An extra reply. I never said this is a 100% winning method. I only mentioned it is a 100% risk free way. there are of course some requirements. to get the full 10% rebate you need to get 750€+ filled syndicates on a weekly basis. And if you put more than the minimum 10% yourself to your syndicates then of course the amount above is at risk.

I only said if you manage to get sold 750€+ in syndicates and you contribute the minimum amount then you as captain get back your stake as a rebate the week after.
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At first I was confused with the syndicates and the rebates but after checking the sites FAQ I slightly understand how it works. It's a group bet that you need to fill up to that certain amount.

What's the name of the site?

This service that you're offering should be in IBG board or in services. It doesn't have anything to do with cryptocurrency gambling, you're just asking for money from other people. You're saying the site doesn't even support crypto.
I agree that it should be in service board. It may be consider as a gambling discussion thread since it is about betting a game like nba, boxing and other sports that you can bet. In my opinion, this thread is like a tipster thread but you won't be the one to bet. I don't find this as a recommended thing to do since there are tipster that you can check and not even a single site is mentioned on what site will be used to place bets.
It's not similar to a tipster, it seems like mutual betting I think you can still get to pick which outcomes you prefer but the odds or payouts are fixed to a specific amount depending on how many outcomes you pick on your tickets.

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November 10, 2019, 10:50:12 PM
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At first I was confused with the syndicates and the rebates but after checking the sites FAQ I slightly understand how it works. It's a group bet that you need to fill up to that certain amount.

What's the name of the site?

This service that you're offering should be in IBG board or in services. It doesn't have anything to do with cryptocurrency gambling, you're just asking for money from other people. You're saying the site doesn't even support crypto.
I agree that it should be in service board. It may be consider as a gambling discussion thread since it is about betting a game like nba, boxing and other sports that you can bet. In my opinion, this thread is like a tipster thread but you won't be the one to bet. I don't find this as a recommended thing to do since there are tipster that you can check and not even a single site is mentioned on what site will be used to place bets.
It's not similar to a tipster, it seems like mutual betting I think you can still get to pick which outcomes you prefer but the odds or payouts are fixed to a specific amount depending on how many outcomes you pick on your tickets.

Indeed it’s not tipping. As captain you can play solo or you can create/join syndicates. It actually is mutual betting like you say.
Prob you also found out that there is a possibility to bet entirely for free as a captain because of the rebate.

But you can only bet for free if you achieve the gold rank every week by reaching a total of 750$+ filled syndicates and not adding more than 10% to your own syndicate tickets
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November 11, 2019, 08:41:31 AM
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Very interesting op. Decided to do some research on Colossus bets(Never heard of it till now) and observed that they have been around for sometime with decent reviews overall. They basically encourage accumulator style mutual bets with slightly better chances.

Can understand why some posters including me are skeptical about your 'Guaranteed' winning system though I am interested in this syndicate system of yours, but I would like to know what the minimum investment is in your group(In crypto obviously)? Also, I focus primarily on Soccer and Cricket bets.

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November 11, 2019, 09:58:41 AM
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Very interesting op. Decided to do some research on Colossus bets(Never heard of it till now) and observed that they have been around for sometime with decent reviews overall. They basically encourage accumulator style mutual bets with slightly better chances.

Can understand why some posters including me are skeptical about your 'Guaranteed' winning system though I am interested in this syndicate system of yours, but I would like to know what the minimum investment is in your group(In crypto obviously)? Also, I focus primarily on Soccer and Cricket bets.

This is also not a risk free betting,from what I understood you invest in a pool and hope to get back more than you invested by winning soccer bets or any other form of bets.I don’t think will work in the long run as no one keeps winning in the long run even in sport betting.

I end up always to using the same question,if this is a 100% win method why don’t the op and his friends take a bank loan and start playing themselves?

Simple because there is no risk free betting.

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November 11, 2019, 10:23:49 AM
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A 100% risk-free? Does such thing exist in gambling? Because as far as I know, when you bet or gamble, it's a risk already.  That's why it's called 'bet', you might lose or win. And when you bet, you're already risking your money. I'm just being skeptical here but I didn't say nor intended to say that it's a bad site. I'm just saying my opinion though. When it comes to gambling, I don't believe nor expect there's a "100%" thing just like 100% guaranteed no losing.

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A 100% risk-free? Does such thing exist in gambling? Because as far as I know, when you bet or gamble, it's a risk already.  That's why it's called 'bet', you might lose or win. And when you bet, you're already risking your money. I'm just being skeptical here but I didn't say nor intended to say that it's a bad site. I'm just saying my opinion though. When it comes to gambling, I don't believe nor expect there's a "100%" thing just like 100% guaranteed no losing.

like explained in the post and explained on the colossusbets.com website. There is a possibility to bet risk free. I already explained the conditions.

You must get a total of 750€+ in filled syndicate pools you created yourself.
You only fund 10% of the pools with your own money.

If you be able to fill 750+ in own syndicates colossusbets gives you back a rebate of 10% which actually the same amount as you put at stake yourself. So yeah I consider this as a risk free betting method.

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November 11, 2019, 12:15:52 PM
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Very interesting op. Decided to do some research on Colossus bets(Never heard of it till now) and observed that they have been around for sometime with decent reviews overall. They basically encourage accumulator style mutual bets with slightly better chances.

Can understand why some posters including me are skeptical about your 'Guaranteed' winning system though I am interested in this syndicate system of yours, but I would like to know what the minimum investment is in your group(In crypto obviously)? Also, I focus primarily on Soccer and Cricket bets.

This is also not a risk free betting,from what I understood you invest in a pool and hope to get back more than you invested by winning soccer bets or any other form of bets.I don’t think will work in the long run as no one keeps winning in the long run even in sport betting.

I end up always to using the same question,if this is a 100% win method why don’t the op and his friends take a bank loan and start playing themselves?

Simple because there is no risk free betting.

I politely ask you to look at the following screenshot that I attached. Only note this week I only qualify for the 7.5% rebate because it was my first week as a captain over there and I did not reached the required 750€+ in total pool value.

Check following betting details.

total cost of the ticket : 145.80€
captain minimum contribution 10%: 14.58€
7.5% rebate on the ticket if sold: 10.94€

So what does this tell. If this ticket gets fully funded I receive 10.94€ back from the 14.58€ I invested myself (because of I didnt reach the 750€ + total value) But if I would have reached the 750+ I would have received back the entire 14.58€ and I would own 10% of that ticket.

So I consider this risk free betting. Cause even if the ticket is loosing I receive back my stake because of the 10% rebate. So as soon I receive my weekly 750€+ minimum then I will bet for free cause I receive the 10% rebate which is equal to my personal stake in the ticket.




And by the way I am not begging for money here. I am just offering this to this community. This platform does not accept crypto so that why I suggested to compose a fun betting group and put together resources and bet risk free as a group.
I have enough money to do this on my own but why playing alone if you can increase chances by playing together
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November 11, 2019, 12:50:10 PM
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So I consider this risk free betting. Cause even if the ticket is loosing I receive back my stake because of the 10% rebate. So as soon I receive my weekly 750€+ minimum then I will bet for free cause I receive the 10% rebate which is equal to my personal stake in the ticket.

It's risk free for you but not risk free for the other members of the syndicate, who need to supply 90% of the stake. It's not really that different for other affiliate schemes - bring some suckers in, we'll kick some money back to you.
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November 11, 2019, 12:53:49 PM
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And by the way I am not begging for money here. I am just offering this to this community. This platform does not accept crypto so that why I suggested to compose a fun betting group and put together resources and bet risk free as a group.
I have enough money to do this on my own but why playing alone if you can increase chances by playing together
Firstly, you did not bother answering my question which is odd since I was considering joining your group, but I wanted to know what the minimum investment is.

It's risk free for you but not risk free for the other members of the syndicate, who need to supply 90% of the stake. It's not really that different for other affiliate schemes - bring some suckers in, we'll kick some money back to you.
This is a fair point actually. How exactly will this method be risk free for everyone else op since the 10% rebate which you mentioned several times already is exclusive to the captain only? Care to clarify?

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November 11, 2019, 01:13:39 PM
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And by the way I am not begging for money here. I am just offering this to this community. This platform does not accept crypto so that why I suggested to compose a fun betting group and put together resources and bet risk free as a group.
I have enough money to do this on my own but why playing alone if you can increase chances by playing together
Firstly, you did not bother answering my question which is odd since I was considering joining your group, but I wanted to know what the minimum investment is.

It's risk free for you but not risk free for the other members of the syndicate, who need to supply 90% of the stake. It's not really that different for other affiliate schemes - bring some suckers in, we'll kick some money back to you.
This is a fair point actually. How exactly will this method be risk free for everyone else op since the 10% rebate which you mentioned several times already is exclusive to the captain only? Care to clarify?

everyone is free to create his own syndicates as well. I consider my betting balance as 2 parts. I use it partially to create my own syndicate pools which give me returns in form of rebate. but I invest in other captains syndicate pools as well which is also gambling for me cause my money is at stake as well.

And it isnt really an affiliate sheme. this rebate opportunity is available for everyone. Even a person that signs up today and creates a syndicate pool qualifies for a 5% rebate. In this way they stimulate that there is enough traffic on their platform. Everyone can become a captain. From the moment you start creating syndicate pools you are a captain. And depending on your results you will receive followers on the platform that are willing to invest in your syndicate tickets

but I definatelly not registered there to gamble entirely risk free. I create syndicate pools which guarantee me rebate and risk free betting but I play solo tickets myself and I also invest in other pools than my own.

Its just the same like any other gambling site actually. if you refer people and they play than you also receive a ref commission on their wagered amount. If you only gamble with your referral commission that you received on your referrals wagers than you also are gambling risk free. So I do not understand why all the hassle about it. It just is exactly the same.


And do not get me wrong. I am not here to find affiliates or people that want to invest in my tickets. There are thousands of players on their platform and they get filled anyway. The reason I am here is to compose a group and to benefit from the 10% rebate as a group.

Just a simple example.

I have 100€ on colossus to spend to create tickets. So with 100€ and the min 10% captain contribution I can create a total amount of 1.000€ in syndicate tickets.
But lets say we have a group of 10 people that each put in 100€ in our shared pool than we have 1,000€ and than we can create 10,000€ in syndicate pool tickets.

And for our group it would be risk free.

If all tickets get filled we receive the 10% rebate that returns our 1,000€ and if tickets do not get filled the tickets get voided and we receive the money of the voided tickets back as well.

It only has 1 negative side on creating a group. Lets say if we have a group of 10 that put money together to fund the 10% min contribution than every group member would own 1% of the entire ticket instead of me 10% if I play alone. But I rather have 1% in a total of 10,000€ in tickets than 10% in 1,000€ of tickets. Cause chance of winning will increase cause we would be able to fitl in 10x more lines than when I would play alone.




Very interesting op. Decided to do some research on Colossus bets(Never heard of it till now) and observed that they have been around for sometime with decent reviews overall. They basically encourage accumulator style mutual bets with slightly better chances.

Can understand why some posters including me are skeptical about your 'Guaranteed' winning system though I am interested in this syndicate system of yours, but I would like to know what the minimum investment is in your group(In crypto obviously)? Also, I focus primarily on Soccer and Cricket bets.

Sorry I missed that reply and did not answered your question. I do not run a huge group. At this moment we are a small group of friends. When we found out about colossusbets we each added 75€ to the platform to try it out. So we only started with a 375€ balance. If everything goes well we gonna add much more to it. but the most important is that we set some results so we build a community of followers on colossusbets.

So we accept everyone in our group and everyone is free to choose how much he wants to contribute to the group bankroll.

As soon as a new member joins there is full transparency. All members receive links of all the composed tickets, all members can decide together with us which games to pick and assist us with their knowledge. Because the more knowledge of different people you have as a group the more powerful tickets can be created.

So if you are interested we can always discuss in private or on telegram, Skype if preferred. It would be nice to have a BTCtalk community member joining our team so we have someone that can vouch for us and about what we are doing.
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November 11, 2019, 01:21:55 PM
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And it isnt really an affiliate sheme. this rebate opportunity is available for everyone. Even a person that signs up today and creates a syndicate pool qualifies for a 5% rebate. In this way they stimulate that there is enough traffic on their platform. Everyone can become a captain. From the moment you start creating syndicate pools you are a captain. And depending on your results you will receive followers on the platform that are willing to invest in your syndicate tickets

Its just the same like any other gambling site actually. if you refer people and they play than you also receive a ref commission on their wagered amount. If you only gamble with your referral commission that you received on your referrals wagers than you also are gambling risk free. So I do not understand why all the hassle about it. It just is exactly the same.

Ok, so it's a referral program, not an affiliate program, I used the incorrect lingo. The point still stands. You need to find suckers to fill your pools. And if you have enough suckers you don't need anyone to share your profits with, it doesn't make any sense. You could make a few "free" bets and make as much "free" money as you want.

There is something you're not telling us.
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