Red Trust Manager?

[1000alasan]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

[Anonylz]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

If an account is tag with a red trust often means that account should not be trusted or apply caution when dealing with the account but sometimes not all accounts with a red trust are untrusted because such accounts have equally done so many good things to over shadow the red tag, some red tag account did not actually scam anyone or something of that nature but maybe for other reasons,
My point is, just because an account has a red tag don't necessarily mean that account is bad, especially the example you gave above,  wapinta has handle so many good bounty as well as some bad ones,  there is nothing wrong in participating in his bounty.

[xiboothrezi]

There are some exceptions, for bounty managers with good portfolios, professional work, no problem, there used to be Jamalaezaz despite having a red trust but several projects he handled were good and many were successful.  If there is currently Wapinter.  However, we must be careful, if the bounty manager has a red trust that is quite extreme with dangerous indications, it should be avoided, especially if the portfolios are few and not good enough.

[ZdynDengov]

It's not about the red trust, as a sign of my personal distrust. I can tell about each Manager, it is necessary to trust him or not, and his subsequently red trust, only confirms my baggage of information which is based on work with this or that Manager!

[mindrust]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

Red trust don't have the same meaning as it used to be anymore. Flags mostly replaced red trusts. As an example: Somebody can be a perfectly legit&trusted trader/seller but if he promoted a ponzi scheme in the past, he probably got a red trust rating for his action. You can say that you can't really trust a ponzi promoter but what I am trying to say is... it is a bit messy situation right now. There are OG forum people with red trust ratings (not going to name them because I don't want to start a war) and they are still trusted in many people's eyes.

I believe livecoin has many negative trust ratings too. (livecoin has a flag too though) They run their own forum campaigns after hhampuz left the camp.

In the end, if there isn't a valid flag on the account, read the neg trust and make your own mind.

I checked the guy "Wapinter"s account and it is in one of those messy situations.

The pharmacist says he is legit, suchmoon says he is not to be trusted. Yahoo says he is ok too. :/ Too many different opinions...

[tenakha]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

Actually, yes, red trust is a bad sign. But if it is about bounty managers, we can consider issue differently. BMs can not always choose the right one and sometimes a single mistake can cause such result. I suggest you never trade with red trust forum members, but if they are BMs, always be cautious.

You always have the right to choose. But, Wapinter is not a terrible manager. There are also positive reviews that have been added to the trust list recently: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=527272

[gantez]

Wapinter needs to be commended for being able to get some job despite the red tagged to his account. Some managers can't handle such and would have gone down. I will say cudos to him for getting his client to have faith in him.

[mdgabrielzim]

Sometimes managers gain redtrust because of other people but I always avoid managers with negative confidence, I feel more confidence in campaigns where managers are known in the forum.

[Febo]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

You can open his trust page and there should be link to exactly why he was given red trust. You see who gave him and why. By that you can make your own opinion. Is quite simple.

This post should definitely belong into Meta part of forum and not alt coin discussions.

[mickey_miner]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

Yes, because some managers were given a negative trust for other reasons. It is also better to check on personal experience, it happens that the manager has a red trust, but he always keeps his promises.

[Immakillya]

Wapinter is good manager. But some of the projects he managed was turned to be a scam. Some Bounty participants tagged him for that. That's the problem about being about Bounty manager. They just care about earning because as far as I know, they accept only btc, Eth or any valuable cryptocurrency not the token offered by the project. I think wapinter never eveluate things before proceeding. But I'm happy that many members here are now more concern about new projects. They tagged the manager before many people scammed by the fake project.

[gundala]

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Yes, because some managers were given a negative trust for other reasons. It is also better to check on personal experience, it happens that the manager has a red trust, but he always keeps his promises.

because giving red trust could be due to other reasons that have nothing to do with the bounty campaign.  we really should focus more on the performance of the manager's bounty and project strength.  Remember, the success of a bounty is not only based on who is handling it, but many other factors influence such as the bounty pool, market capacity, etc.

[lue wang]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

I don't believe any admin, I only believe in projects, here this two are different Hhampuz and Yahoo62278. I will believe project that looks good to me, negative trust doesn't mean to me anything. Because negative isn't flash for everything. Wapinter is also good as Arteezy.rtx and Btcltcdigger

[kawetsriyanto]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

Basically, yes. Red-trust means an untrusted member, including a bounty manager. But they got it from various cases, just look at what the case is. If the case has no correlation with the bounty, it is no problem I think. However, for me, the better option is surely a bounty manager with a good reputation.


Note :
I think you don't need to include "@Wapinter" on your thread above. There are still many worse managers. It is not a place to judge him!!
Why don't you just stated a red-trust bounty manager, no need an example. I think it is clear enough.  

[zenhu]

Surely that manager have bad image on his past campaign. I think you must be wisely to join every project that managed by those people. Look at their profile why he got red trust and you must avoid that case in the next time with other guy.

[bL4nkcode]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?

Of course, yes, especially if the tag was really accurate and proved with some evidence.

And scamming its bounties its managing, e.i. deducting the rewards/stake of participants, proven that applying its alts on the campaign, and etc. Those BM who has this kind of tag should be avoided.

But those red tags with 'managing scam projects' should be considered coz its too hard to say if a project will turn to scam especially if they have with better idea/mvp/whitepaper and etc. And the BM is one of the victims as well.

[Yamifoud]

If we could see red paint on their names it doesn't mean that they are an untrusted person. There is something we need to figure out what it happens and what makes this red paint on his name, we can't simply judge on it.

I appreciate how Wapinter does with their bounty campaigns, in fact, I'm one of his participants before and everything went so well.
But for those other BM, who has a proven bad claim, we shouldn't have to trust them. They will surely scam again and again cause they never care about their reputation.

[taufik123]

Although the wapinter has Red Trush, there are still many bounties that he manages and many participants participate. Wapinter is one of the top bounty managers at the moment. I have participated in many projects and been paid. Regarding the red trush problem, there was indeed a mistake he made because he was promoting a scam project, but that had been a long time since.

[fuer44]

Doesn't red trust mean symbolize bad image?
if so, do you still believe in projects managed by well-known managers who have red trust?

and frankly like @Wapinter

of course not. Logically, only participants who have a red trust cannot join, and if the manager alone has a red trust, then what will the rules look like? this is very hard to believe, and if the manager has a red trust, then participants with red trust can also participate, surely the project is not good. What's more, a red trust is a symbol of a negative account.

[joshua123]

Depends on the case mate. But I think having red trust is also a big factor on participants. Of course this is a bad image, meaning they have been reported to some DT about their handled campaign maybe doesn't pay participants or have serious issue. Wapinter have been flagged negative trust without a valid reason but I dont think its the whole story for him. I still he have campaign participants meaning, maybe the issue arent that strong.