Respond to thread without bumping (respond to followers only?)

[alani123]

I think that a useful feature in this forum could be the ability to intentionally respond to threads without sending them to the front page and without notifying respondents.

Such feature already exists in image boards like 2chan already implement this feature since long ago. It can add incentive to discuss older threads without the fear of 'necro bumping' and also when users want to respond to a thread critically without promoting it via bumps.

Maybe this has been suggested already, but I couldn't find such. Personally, I've been advocating for reducing bumping right for new accounts since last year, I change which I see was implemented September 2019.

Now I think it'd be nice to allow for users to choose if they'll bump a thread.

Edit: after the discussion that has followed my thread, I would like to clarify that it wasn't my intention to make it so replies to threads could be made in complete 'silence'. IMO, a feature like sage in a forum would translate to either:
a. Responding without bringing the post to the front-page for everyone, limiting notifications only to past responders and followers.

AND/OR

b. Potentially limiting the bump. F.e.: Limited bump power applied & only bringing it to the front of the board at most, but not the entire forum.

This would be good for encouraging responses to old threads and also not giving credit to OPs that might not be worthy. For example, if you feel like quoting a response in a thread where the OP isn't a quality post, you might be deterred by the quality of the entire thread and would rather avoid bumping it as a whole. Experienced members could utilize such feature to also respond to unworthy threads critically. It would give bitcointalk users a choice on how much they'd want to utilize their bumping powers, and to which posts.

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[Upgrade00]

There is a warning that appears when one is responding to a thread that has not been posted in for at least 120 days. So you choose whether or not to join the conversation.
The forum is primarily made for discussions, responding to a thread without it becoming visible at the most accessible pages does not start a discussion and the reply will likely go unnoticed.

[Jet Cash]

I edit the last post in a thread if it was made by me. This allows me to update the news without bumping the thread. The downside of doing this is that it is not obvious that the news has been updated. Maybe it would be worth adding an update entry to the "following" report if a member is being followed. ( is this already available ? )

[hosseinimr93]

There is a warning that appears when one is responding to a thread that has not been posted in for at least 120 days. So you choose whether or not to join the conversation.
The forum is primarily made for discussions, responding to a thread without it becoming visible at the most accessible pages does not start a discussion and the reply will likely go unnoticed.

I think the OP is talking about Announcements (Altcoins), Tokens (Altcoins),  Service Announcements (Altcoins) and Bounties (Altcoins), where the bumping system has changed.
In these four boards, 1% of your bump power goes to thread's bump score when you posted in the thread.

I edit the last post in a thread if it was made by me. This allows me to update the news without bumping the thread. The downside of doing this is that it is not obvious that the news has been updated.

If the last post in a thread has been made by you and you edit that post, the title of the thread becomes bold for me even if I have visited the thread before.

[friends1980]

I think this would make the whole idea of discussion boards a bit useless. What's the use of writing new posts if they're not visibly marked? No-one would even notice they'd been posted. I see no harm in bumping or even necrobumping as long as people are not spamming or abusing. I prefer necrobumping to people opening several threads for the same subject or project. When I'm searching for information on a certain subject or coin, and notice there are over 10 threads for the same subject, I even don't bother reading any of them anymore.

[Steamtyme]

I think that a useful feature in this forum could be the ability to intentionally respond to threads without sending them to the front page and without notifying respondents.
Such feature already exists in image boards like 2chan already implement this feature since long ago. It can add incentive to discuss older threads without the fear of 'necro bumping' and also when users want to respond to a thread critically without promoting it via bumps.
Now I think it'd be nice to allow for users to choose if they'll bump a thread.

I have to disagree with the underlying idea. I think it's up to each individual to decide if their post has enough substance to warrant bumping an old thread to the forefront by rehashing a discussion. Sometimes things have changed good or bad that definitely warrant a necrobump to bring this relevant information back to life.
The point Upgrade00 fits this as well. If the information is worthy of necrobumping then it should be worthy of restarting the discussion for anyone who notices it. You can also post a heading that you have necrobumped the thread and explain why, if the purpose is more of a PSA or FYI style post.

The other option is to create a new topic that centers around whatever you wanted to add to that discussion, and link to the old thread. The problem here is if the older users are still active they don't get  a notification in "show new replies to your posts".

[Theb]

Such feature already exists in image boards like 2chan already implement this feature since long ago. It can add incentive to discuss older threads without the fear of 'necro bumping' and also when users want to respond to a thread critically without promoting it via bumps.

If you have a fear if necro-bumping a thread you shouldn't be posting in old threads in the first place and if you really do want to discuss something I'm afraid posting on old threads isn't a good solution. Mostly threads that are being necrobumped are mostly megathreads and I'm pretty sure that in those threads several variations of the same answer or two are already existing and all you have to do is read it, if you feel that the answers are still lacking it's better to create your own thread and ask the your question there rather than necro-bumping a thread that has a potential to be spammed by other members. It would really help a lot if your would link/quote the thread you are basing your questions on so that they could be on track with you at the same time.

[DireWolfM14]

If a tree fell in the middle of the forest and there was no one around to hear it, did it make a sound?

If a post was made in a thread that was buried on page 42 of a discussion board, and the thread wasn't bumped, would the post ever be read?

If you want to make a post in a thread that's buried on page 42 of a discussion board but don't feel the need for the thread to be bumped, does the post really need to be made?

[Thirdspace]

I think that a useful feature in this forum could be the ability to intentionally respond to threads without sending them to the front page and without notifying respondents.

useful in what way? it's a bad idea and should not be implemented on a discussion forum
this will give an opportunity for people to make a few posts secretly to gain activity and other purposes

It can add incentive to discuss older threads without the fear of 'necro bumping' and also when users want to respond to a thread critically without promoting it via bumps.

responding to a very old thread still be consider necro posting and may warrant a deletion if found
how would people know your reply if the thread is not bumped or no notification raised
what incentive would that be if it doesn't encourage any comments or discussions
if needed you can start a new thread and make a reference to old thread to continue the discussion

[alani123]

I edit the last post in a thread if it was made by me. This allows me to update the news without bumping the thread. The downside of doing this is that it is not obvious that the news has been updated. Maybe it would be worth adding an update entry to the "following" report if a member is being followed. ( is this already available ? )

For instance, I'm hesitant to respond to an old thread because I'm afraid that bringing it to the front for the entire forum could revive some low-quality discussion from people that had not participated in it originally. Maybe something like 'sage' from 2chan would be equivalent in choosing to only notify past responders instead of also bumping the thread.

[libert19]

I got to agree with previous responses, this forum is for discussions and if one's comment doesn't bump the thread then it will stay buried. New bump feature works fine on primary boards.

[Steamtyme]

For instance, I'm hesitant to respond to an old thread because I'm afraid that bringing it to the front for the entire forum could revive some low-quality discussion from people that had not participated in it originally.

Who's to say they won't bring in a fresh perspective or a quality opinion that could drive the discussion further. If you only want to address certain members from a topic then you might as well PM them your new thought/idea on the matter and discuss it there. You can also follow my previous suggestion in creating a new topic, and still PM users you think may be interested.
In the end I'm in the corner of - If it doesn't warrant discussing with anyone who reads it and forms an opinion, then it doesn't warrant being posted. Every topic and post has the potential to generate spam, low quality responses don't let that stop a deserving discussion from being started or re-ignited. Just report the garbage.

[Coyster]

For instance, I'm hesitant to respond to an old thread because I'm afraid that bringing it to the front for the entire forum could revive some low-quality discussion...

It wouldn't be reviving them at all: since what you'll be adding by bumping it is a quality addition, then why should you should care about old spam posts on the thread. When you've bumped the thread with your new reply, the discussion can then take off from there again.

It would even help to get those low quality posts deleted, when the thread is bumped to the first page, the replies that were off-topic would be visible to most users, and then it can be reported to the moderator since it maybe just went unnoticed when it was posted.
So this can serve three good purposes, gets old spam posts deleted, generates new discussions on an old topic, and also replies/posts that were so good and were not merited, stand another chance of being so.

[hosseinimr93]

For instance, I'm hesitant to respond to an old thread because I'm afraid that bringing it to the front for the entire forum could revive some low-quality discussion...

It wouldn't be reviving them at all: since what you'll be adding by bumping it is a quality addition, then why should you should care about old spam posts on the thread. When you've bumped the thread with your new reply, the discussion can then take off from there again.

It would even help to get those low quality posts deleted, when the thread is bumped to the first page, the replies that were off-topic would be visible to most users, since it probably went unnoticed when it was posted.
So this can serve three good purposes, gets old spam posts deleted, generates new discussions on an old topic, and also replies/posts that were so good and were not merited, stand another chance of being so.

Generally an overall approach shouldn't be applied to all the threads. This should be decided on a case-by-case basis.
Most of the times, it's better to open a new topic. Sometimes you should reply to the previous topic (Only if you think that cannot be discussed in a better place and you have something worthy to post)
The decision on whether to post in the old thread or open a new topic should be made base on the discussion.
As steamtyme said, sometimes it can be a good idea to pm a user when the thread have been inactive for a while and you want to reply to a certain user for asking a question or answering to a question and you think there aren't any other user interested in your post.

I don't think it's a good idea to make a post in a thread and make it visible for getting old spams deleted. It's not worth moderators time.

Also, I think that the forum want users to avoid inactive thread as much as possible. When you try to reply to a topic that has been inactive for more than 120 days, you get the following message.

"Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.

[Coyster]

I don't think it's a good idea to make a post in a thread and make it visible for getting old spams deleted. It's not worth moderators time.

I was never advocating for users to post in old threads simply for that reason, I was particular on users who choose to bump threads with new replies on them rather than creating their own topic, what I posted was the advantages of doing so, not a strict rules or that it should be done solely or just for that singular purpose.

[Pmalek]

I agree with Steamtyme and the rest of the lads as I really don't see a reason to post some new information in an old thread without being willing to engage the community in a discussion. In that case PM the users who's feedback you are interested in.
Maybe the information you want to post is wrong and you could get corrected but the person who knows didn't see your reply because the thread is God knows where.

[hd49728]

I agree with Steamtyme and the rest of the lads as I really don't see a reason to post some new information in an old thread without being willing to engage the community in a discussion. In that case PM the users who's feedback you are interested in.
Maybe the information you want to post is wrong and you could get corrected but the person who knows didn't see your reply because the thread is God knows where.

A few weeks ago, I saw a topic that created to ask for reasons why most of posts in that topic (a service) deleted by moderator. The answer gave by moderator is updating posts considered as bump. And we all know bump is limited once per 24 hours and old bumps have to be deleted simultaneously. (Rules #13, #21)

Without discussions from other users, updating posts considered as bump.

I faced same issues with my updates in Bitcoin transaction fees - Everything in one. My posts deleted or merged by moderators, then I decided to deleted all my past updates.

Replies in the forum are means of communication and discussion. From that aspect, if someone make an informative and on-topic post, that user legally bump that topic with a discussive post.

With bump scores, bumps in some boards (4 as I know of) have very limited effects, significantly less than before bump scores launched and went into effects in the forum.

[alani123]

If a tree fell in the middle of the forest and there was no one around to hear it, did it make a sound?

If a post was made in a thread that was buried on page 42 of a discussion board, and the thread wasn't bumped, would the post ever be read?

If you want to make a post in a thread that's buried on page 42 of a discussion board but don't feel the need for the thread to be bumped, does the post really need to be made?

This is a nice analogy, I'll have to admit. Helped me realize that I might not be phrasing my concerns and points as I should.
I didn't mean that this feature should allow for responses that wouldn't be seen by anyone. But rather, allowing responders to choose if they'd want to limit the pump power they'll give to the OP with heir response. I've edited my OP accordingly.