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December 23, 2019, 04:27:27 PM
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I have not done anything of this level and I don’t think I will ever do such things.These things are made by ill people who have the addiction as their illness.They will do anything to achieve their goals just like a drug addict would.I think that some years in jail would be the right punishment for such persons and also there to be treated for their illness.

I don't think prison can actually help them to reduce the addictions and it will just create it more intensely in them and when they will be out in freedom, they might bet more furiously to make up for the potential wins they imagined they would have made had they not gone in prison.
They have psychological issues not behavior ones that prison will serve them for the right purpose. Prison will rather as you mentioned escalate the addiction. They need to be in some rehabilitation center where their addiction is analyzed and they are given treatments along with therapies that could help them in overcoming the bad thoughts they have. They are not criminals rather they shall be treated as mental patients.

I agree,  but somehow, putting them in jail while they are being rehabilitate is also a good thing for them to know their limits. They need help but also they need to be discipline in the right way and in the most humane ways, instead of torturing them alone by sending them in jail with their respective punishment, it will just makes things worst that could result in more addiction and rebellion phase of a person.

For them, everywhere is a prison if they can't freely do whatever they wanted to do, but it is the best for them so I would also suggest sending them in mental hospital instead of being imprison in years without any help of medication and therapy.

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December 24, 2019, 04:07:56 AM
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It shall never be played with intentions of making money because easily earn money goes easily.

That's not the main problem, the problem is how can you make easy money in gambling, and the problem with us is that we assume gambling gives easy money where in fact we are the ones who are giving them easy money, its quite the opposite TBH.

We cannot make easy money in gambling, and even we can get addicted to gambling. We should know the risk so we can think not to use gambling to search for easy money because we never found that. If you think that gambling can give you easy money and you still playing gambling, you can see that in the end, you will be addicted to gambling. And once you addicted to gambling, you will realize that it is the worst thing that you should find a way to solve the problem.
and that is the bad concept of people for gambling,they always looking as the last resort to make double their money so in the end?they are failing and instead of gaining they are losing everything.

sometimes losing their money and at worst losing their family and friends because gambling can change our attitude and behavior,from a good person to a shit one.so yeah never look for gambling as money machine instead look at this as robber that can take your money at any time.
But we see that many people to do that even if they realize the risk or the consequences. They want to make money from gambling, but that will not easy as they thought because they will lose more and even everything. The losing of their money will bigger than before because they will spend more money without thinking of limiting money. We should stop playing gambling before we are late to realize, and we can stop from losing the money.

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December 24, 2019, 08:36:46 AM
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I have not done anything of this level and I don’t think I will ever do such things.These things are made by ill people who have the addiction as their illness.They will do anything to achieve their goals just like a drug addict would.I think that some years in jail would be the right punishment for such persons and also there to be treated for their illness.

I don't think prison can actually help them to reduce the addictions and it will just create it more intensely in them and when they will be out in freedom, they might bet more furiously to make up for the potential wins they imagined they would have made had they not gone in prison.
They have psychological issues not behavior ones that prison will serve them for the right purpose. Prison will rather as you mentioned escalate the addiction. They need to be in some rehabilitation center where their addiction is analyzed and they are given treatments along with therapies that could help them in overcoming the bad thoughts they have. They are not criminals rather they shall be treated as mental patients.
It's rare to treat patients that has gambling addiction issue. Usually, those who are addicted in gambling in which they have nothing left to gamble due to their lack of control became miserable already and they have no money to pay for the treatment then. Also, the problem in ascertaining that is people who have that issue doesn't act suspicously. Usually the keep secret for themselves which makes person who are valuable or close to them difficult to know their siutation. I think with just keeping do other things can help more for them rather than putting them in facilities. It's a difficult task but still doable at the end.
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December 24, 2019, 09:07:17 AM
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I wonder what specifically the person gamble on? The article did not mention it unfortunately. I guess he gambled on stock hoping to make quick profits and return back what he took. Both Op post and the article sound like he took the  huge sums of money and spent it in a casino or something. Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.

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December 24, 2019, 09:45:31 AM
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Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.
Well yes not knowing the result of your actions are sort of gambling too because you take a risk. I consider investing as gambling as well for the reason there's no assurance if you will earn though its an edge if you have knowledge about it.

If we gamble its a must to know the possible consequences after playing because most of the time gamblers are losing more than winning. Its hard to lose but if you're already prepared for the risk of losing then you wont think of chasing your money back.

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December 24, 2019, 09:54:58 AM
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I wonder what specifically the person gamble on? The article did not mention it unfortunately. I guess he gambled on stock hoping to make quick profits and return back what he took. Both Op post and the article sound like he took the  huge sums of money and spent it in a casino or something. Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.

My wild guess is that the person gamble on a casino in the Philippines. Three big casino's are within Manila and I'm sure he played on three of them.

The gambler took money throughout the years and no one new about it because he is clearly manipulating the books and it's already too late with them found out thru audit.

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December 24, 2019, 10:05:28 AM
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I wonder what specifically the person gamble on? The article did not mention it unfortunately. I guess he gambled on stock hoping to make quick profits and return back what he took. Both Op post and the article sound like he took the  huge sums of money and spent it in a casino or something. Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.


It hurts when we read this type of things as that person would be now busted and would not have anything left or would have lost huge amount of money. He forgot the basic rules itself that never bet or borrow money from others for such stuff and he did exactly the same thing. Also going big on such things can lead to heavy losses unless you can afford such loss never do such kind of things.


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December 24, 2019, 10:22:20 AM
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I wonder what specifically the person gamble on? The article did not mention it unfortunately. I guess he gambled on stock hoping to make quick profits and return back what he took. Both Op post and the article sound like he took the  huge sums of money and spent it in a casino or something. Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.

My wild guess is that the person gamble on a casino in the Philippines. Three big casino's are within Manila and I'm sure he played on three of them.

The gambler took money throughout the years and no one new about it because he is clearly manipulating the books and it's already too late with them found out thru audit.

It was actually a casino, according to his confession. Found that on another site:
https://business.inquirer.net/282716/50-year-old-ph-stock-brokerage-shuts-down
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Mor*n claimed to have acted alone, and said he was forced to steal in larger amounts over time because of a growing casino habit (“Nalulong din po sa casino”). The R&L employee also executed a promissory note endeavoring to return all that he had stolen, while maintaining that there were no cash or securities left for him to return.

Well, I am surprised someone in his position  would do such thing. He started siphoning things gradually since 2011. It definitely sounds like addiction.

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December 24, 2019, 10:30:14 AM
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Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.
Every gambling player I think is aware of what risks they will get. The biggest risk in gambling is defeat, the greater the loss, the greater the cause they become financially worse. Many people are too optimistic to take advantage when playing gambling, but they will forget that the biggest gambling secret is defeat. Play well, but we also have to be good at managing finances, because losing & winning is a must in gambling.

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December 24, 2019, 04:05:44 PM
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Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.
Every gambling player I think is aware of what risks they will get. The biggest risk in gambling is defeat, the greater the loss, the greater the cause they become financially worse. Many people are too optimistic to take advantage when playing gambling, but they will forget that the biggest gambling secret is defeat. Play well, but we also have to be good at managing finances, because losing & winning is a must in gambling.

Yes, they are aware of the risk, but after they play another round, they forget to that risk, and they spend too much money without thinking about the chance to get lost. The big risk in gambling is hard to defeat, but we can prevent another loss if we don't stop. So before you lose more money, it is better you can stop yourself from playing gambling, and you will have a chance to save your money.

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December 25, 2019, 04:41:36 AM
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Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.
Every gambling player I think is aware of what risks they will get. The biggest risk in gambling is defeat, the greater the loss, the greater the cause they become financially worse. Many people are too optimistic to take advantage when playing gambling, but they will forget that the biggest gambling secret is defeat. Play well, but we also have to be good at managing finances, because losing & winning is a must in gambling.

Yes, they are aware of the risk, but after they play another round, they forget to that risk, and they spend too much money without thinking about the chance to get lost. The big risk in gambling is hard to defeat, but we can prevent another loss if we don't stop. So before you lose more money, it is better you can stop yourself from playing gambling, and you will have a chance to save your money.

From the very start they are already aware of the risk but they are not afraid of taking risk that is why they are gamblers.
When they gamble more and more and they keep losing most of the time, that' gives a challenge to them and they don't give up, that makes them addicted because they are up to the challenge and failed to use their mind and let their emotion take control on them.

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December 25, 2019, 05:04:12 AM
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~snip
Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.
Every gambling player I think is aware of what risks they will get. The biggest risk in gambling is defeat, the greater the loss, the greater the cause they become financially worse. Many people are too optimistic to take advantage when playing gambling, but they will forget that the biggest gambling secret is defeat. Play well, but we also have to be good at managing finances, because losing & winning is a must in gambling.

Yes, they are aware of the risk, but after they play another round, they forget to that risk, and they spend too much money without thinking about the chance to get lost. The big risk in gambling is hard to defeat, but we can prevent another loss if we don't stop. So before you lose more money, it is better you can stop yourself from playing gambling, and you will have a chance to save your money.

From the very start they are already aware of the risk but they are not afraid of taking risk that is why they are gamblers.
When they gamble more and more and they keep losing most of the time, that' gives a challenge to them and they don't give up, that makes them addicted because they are up to the challenge and failed to use their mind and let their emotion take control on them.

Exactly. And when emotion is left to dominate within a person for a long time, he will go crazy. His sense of reason will die and he will commit unimaginable atrocities just like what the OP has mentioned in this post. Those people are dead crazy already. There is no single reason within them probably. A reasonable person cannot commit those crimes.
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They have psychological issues not behavior ones that prison will serve them for the right purpose. Prison will rather as you mentioned escalate the addiction. They need to be in some rehabilitation center where their addiction is analyzed and they are given treatments along with therapies that could help them in overcoming the bad thoughts they have. They are not criminals rather they shall be treated as mental patients.
Indeed, they are having some psychological problems, and needed to be asess by professionals , gambling is good for fun, and for creating money, but in moderation because if not, it will only lead to a bigger problem that can affect not only themselves, but also to those people who are in their environment. Addiction is too hard to stop, especially if it is too long before that person is aware that he is addict. Family and friends should help him and distract him with other things.

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December 25, 2019, 09:21:14 AM
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They have psychological issues not behavior ones that prison will serve them for the right purpose. Prison will rather as you mentioned escalate the addiction. They need to be in some rehabilitation center where their addiction is analyzed and they are given treatments along with therapies that could help them in overcoming the bad thoughts they have. They are not criminals rather they shall be treated as mental patients.
Indeed, they are having some psychological problems, and needed to be asess by professionals , gambling is good for fun, and for creating money, but in moderation because if not, it will only lead to a bigger problem that can affect not only themselves, but also to those people who are in their environment. Addiction is too hard to stop, especially if it is too long before that person is aware that he is an addict. Family and friends should help him and distract him with other things.
Gambling addiction is worse and it also hard to control but I'm the type of person that believes prevention is always better than cure because if a gambler is aware of addiction consequences such gambler won't dare put what he/she precious most on the line. Therefore, i think gambling company needs to showcase on their site proper awareness to their users.

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December 25, 2019, 01:09:34 PM
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Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.
Every gambling player I think is aware of what risks they will get. The biggest risk in gambling is defeat, the greater the loss, the greater the cause they become financially worse. Many people are too optimistic to take advantage when playing gambling, but they will forget that the biggest gambling secret is defeat. Play well, but we also have to be good at managing finances, because losing & winning is a must in gambling.

Yes, they are aware of the risk, but after they play another round, they forget to that risk, and they spend too much money without thinking about the chance to get lost. The big risk in gambling is hard to defeat, but we can prevent another loss if we don't stop. So before you lose more money, it is better you can stop yourself from playing gambling, and you will have a chance to save your money.

From the very start they are already aware of the risk but they are not afraid of taking risk that is why they are gamblers.
When they gamble more and more and they keep losing most of the time, that' gives a challenge to them and they don't give up, that makes them addicted because they are up to the challenge and failed to use their mind and let their emotion take control on them.

They feel it's too difficult to control themselves, and the passion for playing gambling will always be there. That makes them play more and more without thinking about what will happen later. They accept the risk, they use more money, and in the end, they lose their money, but they will difficult to recover the lost. If they lose, they feel that it is a challenge how they can get the money back.

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December 25, 2019, 03:41:54 PM
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I have not done anything of this level and I don’t think I will ever do such things.These things are made by ill people who have the addiction as their illness.They will do anything to achieve their goals just like a drug addict would.I think that some years in jail would be the right punishment for such persons and also there to be treated for their illness.

I don't think prison can actually help them to reduce the addictions and it will just create it more intensely in them and when they will be out in freedom, they might bet more furiously to make up for the potential wins they imagined they would have made had they not gone in prison.
They have psychological issues not behavior ones that prison will serve them for the right purpose. Prison will rather as you mentioned escalate the addiction. They need to be in some rehabilitation center where their addiction is analyzed and they are given treatments along with therapies that could help them in overcoming the bad thoughts they have. They are not criminals rather they shall be treated as mental patients.
It's rare to treat patients that has gambling addiction issue. Usually, those who are addicted in gambling in which they have nothing left to gamble due to their lack of control became miserable already and they have no money to pay for the treatment then. Also, the problem in ascertaining that is people who have that issue doesn't act suspicously. Usually the keep secret for themselves which makes person who are valuable or close to them difficult to know their siutation. I think with just keeping do other things can help more for them rather than putting them in facilities. It's a difficult task but still doable at the end.
There are many other types of patients in rehabilitation centers but gambling addicts are damn less in numbers. Those who basically are under the supervision of families or are dependent on their families for financial supports, they cannot hide their addiction because families do take report of their expenses but those who are themselves the heads of family, they are the ones whose addiction make things worse and they are rarely taken to doctor.
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December 25, 2019, 05:04:44 PM
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They have psychological issues not behavior ones that prison will serve them for the right purpose. Prison will rather as you mentioned escalate the addiction. They need to be in some rehabilitation center where their addiction is analyzed and they are given treatments along with therapies that could help them in overcoming the bad thoughts they have. They are not criminals rather they shall be treated as mental patients.
Indeed, they are having some psychological problems, and needed to be asess by professionals , gambling is good for fun, and for creating money, but in moderation because if not, it will only lead to a bigger problem that can affect not only themselves, but also to those people who are in their environment. Addiction is too hard to stop, especially if it is too long before that person is aware that he is an addict. Family and friends should help him and distract him with other things.
Gambling addiction is worse and it also hard to control but I'm the type of person that believes prevention is always better than cure because if a gambler is aware of addiction consequences such gambler won't dare put what he/she precious most on the line. Therefore, i think gambling company needs to showcase on their site proper awareness to their users.

What do you mean by that, gambling company needs to do the same with cigarettes business where they've place pictures of sick person and an slogans that's said "cigarettes smoking is not good for your health" not sure if that will happen, as casino house wanted gamblers to keep playing and keep chasing for their lucky day. It's people's mindset that needs to be changed to avoid heavy addiction.
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December 25, 2019, 05:14:42 PM
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That's an example of addiction we should all avoid.
He didn't just risk his money but also he stole money from the company that he is working and this is even worse... But those people who are working in Stock and trading companies are the biggest gamblers of all...
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I wonder what specifically the person gamble on? The article did not mention it unfortunately. I guess he gambled on stock hoping to make quick profits and return back what he took. Both Op post and the article sound like he took the  huge sums of money and spent it in a casino or something. Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.


It hurts when we read this type of things as that person would be now busted and would not have anything left or would have lost huge amount of money. He forgot the basic rules itself that never bet or borrow money from others for such stuff and he did exactly the same thing. Also going big on such things can lead to heavy losses unless you can afford such loss never do such kind of things.


So not all the time we call it addictions but people must have control over emotions and they should have control that when they want to stop so they can it is much better to make limit for gambling money and get not to exceed it. Addictions is in your hands if you don’t want to be get addicted just play one or two hours a day.
Without emotions, the game and spent time don't become enjoyable, from my experience. People should walk to the casino with the idea of having fun, thinking strategies on the mind and applying money management will take the energy which can be used for spending a good time. Some online gambling sites have a time-limit function, if the gambler wants to limit his spent time, adjusting the time will be enough to block the account's access to site temporarily.

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I wonder what specifically the person gamble on? The article did not mention it unfortunately. I guess he gambled on stock hoping to make quick profits and return back what he took. Both Op post and the article sound like he took the  huge sums of money and spent it in a casino or something. Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.


It hurts when we read this type of things as that person would be now busted and would not have anything left or would have lost huge amount of money. He forgot the basic rules itself that never bet or borrow money from others for such stuff and he did exactly the same thing. Also going big on such things can lead to heavy losses unless you can afford such loss never do such kind of things.


So not all the time we call it addictions but people must have control over emotions and they should have control that when they want to stop so they can it is much better to make limit for gambling money and get not to exceed it. Addictions is in your hands if you don’t want to be get addicted just play one or two hours a day.
Yes addiction is in our hands but in the initial stage as in the start we can have control on our games our emotions and on our money if in the start we decide the timing of our games and we decide that how much will we spend and will not spend any other amount of money which will harm us then we can do while if we get the start without any planning and limits then we will continue like that and a time will come when we will continue to play without any control and will be fully addicted.
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