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November 15, 2019, 11:49:04 AM
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What I find discouraging is the mass of merits that go to the providers of statistical info, and other post about the forum mechanics.
I've noticed this too, and I'm on the receiving end of many of those Merits. I think it's just because many people with sMerit to send read Meta and Reputation, and less of the technical boards.
On the other hand, I've also received a nice amount of Merit for other subjects, but I've been bumping this specific topic since January last year.

It may be nice to compare "Merit received per view"  for a few topics:
0.00185 Merit per view: LoyceV's Merit data analysis (full data since Jan. 24, 2018; not just 120 days)
0.00312 Merit per view: Fees are low, use this opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs!
0.01315 Merit per view: LoyceV's Trust list viewer - Create your own Trust list!
0.02802 Merit per view: Using Locktime for inheritance planning, backups or gifts
0.06054 Merit per view: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

I must add that the third topic has by took much more effort to create than any other topic I've ever made.

But still main reason is to empty the merits on good posts and I just don't calculate it out  Roll Eyes
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Theymos wants sources to empty it, so if you find more good posts, give less per post, and if you find only a few posts, send enough to still empty your source.

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November 15, 2019, 12:27:18 PM
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The problem with showering merits onto forum stats, and ignoring the main purpose of the forum, is that it discourages some members. Since I've started to notice the rapid rise in merits for forum "governance", and I've had posts deleted, and ignored when I comment in topics that I think are relevant to the old purpose of the forum, I've joined some other forums ( not crypto ), and I'm spending time on them, rather than trying to promote activity here. You guys need to decide on the forum you want for the future, and use your merits awarding and posting to help guide it. Mods can also help by considering their thread deletion policies. In the past, I've taken a few days off as a direct result of what I considered to be an unreasonable post deletion.

The latest source increases are likely to make matters worse. If the greatest increases go to the bounty encouragers, and the governance gurus, and not to the members who are really interested in Bitcoin, and want to talk about it, then you will end up with a social club and a shopping mall.

Another issue is the belittling of members with sincerely held beliefs. I've done a lot of research into vaccination for example, and I have become aware that it has been weaponised. Calling me a tin hat loonie because I have looked at results from 8 years plus, and the belittlers have only considered results from a few days after vaccination, just makes the forum posters appear to be blinkered, and discourages sensible discussion.

Lets adopt the rhetoric of Donald Trump rather than Donald Duck, and lets make Bitcoin Talk great again.

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November 15, 2019, 04:10:15 PM
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I’ve started to search a bit deeper around the forum lately to look for people who don’t get that many Merit’s. I’ll always Merit reputable members when they make a good post but I think it’s important to help lower ranked posters rank up otherwise we just have an exclusive old boys club of Legendary Members & nobody else gets Merited.

Try to send at least 1/3 of your daily sendable merit’s to deserving low ranked accounts.

My monthly allowance is a lot less than some of you guys, Loyce & suchmoon etc but I’ll do my best for the forum to spread the love around a little bit.

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November 15, 2019, 05:42:14 PM
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The problem with showering merits onto forum stats, and ignoring the main purpose of the forum, is that it discourages some members. Since I've started to notice the rapid rise in merits for forum "governance", and I've had posts deleted, and ignored when I comment in topics that I think are relevant to the old purpose of the forum, I've joined some other forums ( not crypto ), and I'm spending time on them, rather than trying to promote activity here.

I would agree. Although, the forum statistics are informative, and I do believe they deserve some amount of merit. However, with the recent increase of source merit I'm hoping users will be rewarding more merits to other things, and not just the statistical threads. I'm certainly not going to stop meriting those statistical threads that are of high quality. Although, posts using generic data from tools made by other users on the forum will likely not be merited by myself or at least not receive as much merit. I think we've seen a rise of users who are using these tools as a way to get merit, when largely the statistical information provided doesn't really offer much insight that anyone else could get from the tools which have been made available to the public. 


You guys need to decide on the forum you want for the future, and use your merits awarding and posting to help guide it. Mods can also help by considering their thread deletion policies. In the past, I've taken a few days off as a direct result of what I considered to be an unreasonable post deletion.

Don't feel like you need to take a few days off if a post is deleted. Message either myself or another mod that you think handled it. I certainly don't handle a lot of your posts that are reported, but I might be able to offer my thoughts on why it was deleted even if I'm not the mod that actually handled the report. This offer is open to anyone as well. I'll try my best to get back to any messages which is seeking clarification for why a post was deleted. If you don't get a reply then just assume I've missed it as my inbox can be a little messy some days, and send another message.
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November 15, 2019, 07:44:28 PM
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Technical help for Bitcoin users
Quality topics on local economic issues, especially when related to crypto.
Political issues related to banking and international payments.

I'll add some more categories when I think of them.
Personally i always like to give merits to them who are helping newbies and making contribution for the forum. I think it doesn't matter a lot where he is posting but purpose behind posting is important. Its a good news for newbies that merit sources are getting big number of smerit and as a merit source if you use your smerits for quality posters and contributors then number of merit isn't a big fact here. I can explain it from my own situation. I am not a merit source and sometime when i get out of smerit at that time if i wish to give someone merit after seeing his quality post or deserving activity then its not possible for me. You are one step ahead here and community users will be able to get best encouragement from you by getting merits.

Yeah you can select more categories for allowing someone to have merit from your side but i will suggest you to give priority to them who are working so hard for the welfare of this community and its users.   


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November 15, 2019, 07:45:26 PM
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I’ve started to search a bit deeper around the forum lately to look for people who don’t get that many Merit’s. I’ll always Merit reputable members when they make a good post but I think it’s important to help lower ranked posters rank up otherwise we just have an exclusive old boys club of Legendary Members & nobody else gets Merited.

Try to send at least 1/3 of your daily sendable merit’s to deserving low ranked accounts.

My monthly allowance is a lot less than some of you guys, Loyce & suchmoon etc but I’ll do my best for the forum to spread the love around a little bit.

Merits should be given to posts without any attention to username of the poster, the rank and number of merits the user has already earned.
If a legendary member makes a post and receive certain number of merits, equal number of merits should be given to a newbie if that post had been posted by him.

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November 15, 2019, 07:51:29 PM
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The formula is simple.

The more you distribute your merits, the more theymos gives you until you can't share anymore. My source of powa also got increased even though I am having hard times while finding anything merit worthwhile lately.

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November 15, 2019, 08:55:37 PM
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Thanks for clarifying that. So we are likely to get replenishments over the next month as our renewals become due.

You're not going to get any renewals over the next 30 (well, 29) days. The adjustment reset your sMerits AND your "calendar" (otherwise you'd be double-dipping). So you should probably consider spending them at a pace that would last you a month without replenishment.
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November 15, 2019, 09:46:27 PM
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Can anyone tell me how I can calculate my source for each month? I spent all my sMerits a few days ago and today I received this message[1], I checked Merits and found more than 300. Can anyone tell me how many sMerits are per month or a simple tool to calculate them?


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The average amount of merit you sent per month (including both source merit and personal sMerit) in the last 6 months was computed, and your new source allocation was set equal to 175% of this amount. However, if this would've caused you to have a source merit of less than 10, then you were removed as a merit source
I believe your source merit is refilled when your monthly allocation is changed. So if you had 300 source merit immediately after you received the message from theymos, your monthly allocation is 300 and will see your source merit replenished 30 days after you spend any source merit after you received the message.
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November 16, 2019, 06:03:51 AM
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So you should probably consider spending them at a pace that would last you a month without replenishment.

I've still got a load of "earned" sMerits, so I will be able to honour any meriting promises I make for the foreseeable future. I'd like to spend my source merits over the next few days, but I don't seem to have much chance of doing that given the failure of  my mining thread in the beginners' section.

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November 16, 2019, 07:25:30 AM
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but I don't seem to have much chance of doing that given the failure of  my mining thread in the beginners' section.

You ask alot from this range of users, how about Instead of restricting the discussion to certain range of users you open it for everyone but your merit rewarding will then be concentrating on the range of users you're hoping to read contributions from. Your criteria seems to encourage creating of new account to contribute while discouraging others to respond supposedly they had something worth saying as of when they saw the thread.

Could also be since the topic been discussed already has a focus user based individuals and most of them already spent most of their time in the mining board, they're not aware of this opportunity you offer.

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November 16, 2019, 08:01:12 AM
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Good suggestion, but I beat you to it. I'd already started another thread about Bitcoin velocity, and that is unrestricted. Feel free to add your comments, it looks like another thread that will bomb. I wanted a topic that is a bit more thought provoking than " what is Bitcoin?", or "can Bitcoin improve your sex life/manhood?".

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