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November 21, 2019, 09:30:07 PM
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First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.

I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers?  

Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.
The major problems which make most crypto projects shady is because they lack real life use and adoption. It's also true that there are many scam projects with Roadmaps which will never be achieved, but at least very few projects are really trying to be on track. Truly it's not easy for a new tech like crypto to be adopted especially when the authorities are restricting it. Talking about fake recruitment announced on social media, many projects are guilty of this.
You are saying everything correctly, since the crypto industry is something new for people and for governments of countries, as well as for banks, and they do not understand how to correctly perceive it. Many due to the fact that they do not understand the whole technology and capabilities of the cryptocurrency, immediately put an end to the industry for themselves and if the government from any country does this, this immediately affects the course of the main cryptocurrency “BTC” and, after it, all other altcoins. Meanwhile, while there is no regulation, fraudsters take advantage of this and rob people of the money that they earned honestly.
The cryptocurrency wasn't accepted so quickly by the community if were not for the desire and the possibility of quick enrichment and profit.I think,the road maps, white paper, interest payments to the fund and etc that isn't scam, but a game according to the rules established for project's teams.Therefore, each project creates its own token,because it’s easier to collect investments and don’t have to share it with anyone. If use already known alts - it means dependence and centralization, promotes monopolization in the cryptocurrency market.
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November 21, 2019, 09:34:56 PM
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First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.

I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers? 

Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.

Bullshit.
The people need time to know and adopt cryptocurrencies, marchands too.
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November 22, 2019, 10:05:42 AM
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First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.

I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers? 

Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.

Bullshit.
The people need time to know and adopt cryptocurrencies, marchands too.
It seems to me that people not only need time, but also good news, because when in 2017 the news sent Bitcoin to the moon, everyone believed in cryptocurrency and started investing in altcoins, but since the rate fell and hopes also disappeared, let's believe in the future of cryptocurrencies and recommend to all friends and acquaintances, because this can give a little push which is now very necessary. There are a lot of projects worthy of attention.

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November 22, 2019, 10:47:00 AM
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I think it is too harsh to say all of cyrpto is a scam.
Certainly there are plenty of scams out there, and equally there are plenty of legitimate projects that have no real use case and don't offer anything new.

But it is also the case that there is some good stuff out there. Bitcoin for a start. Similarly it would be difficult to argue that Ethereum is a scam - there is a lot of interesting functionality there which is not present in BTC - smart contracts have a real solid use-case. Same for XRP, definite use-case in international banking, which can't be filled by BTC.

So some are scams, a lot are pointless, and a smaller amount are genuinely great projects with talented developers, well-thought-out road-maps, rock-solid real-world use-cases.

(That may be my personal record for consecutive hyphens.)






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November 22, 2019, 11:12:08 AM
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I disagree with you on this one, you should've listed out the once you feeling negative about and not generalized it considering the fact that bitcoin is the mother of all crypto currency follow by ETH and some other great projects out there that are really doing great.

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November 22, 2019, 02:55:26 PM
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I disagree with you on this one, you should've listed out the once you feeling negative about and not generalized it considering the fact that bitcoin is the mother of all crypto currency follow by ETH and some other great projects out there that are really doing great.

I said what I meant. Bitcoin is not much different. Yes, it is "The Mother of all crypto". But do you put it at number one "followed by ETH" based on it's price or based on it's development, capabilities, power usage, speed, features, etc?

It gets older and older and companies like Paypal now have feeles payments for friends and colleagues. By the time Blockchain develops enough, these companies will also develop new strategies to ridicule the piling up of thousands of power-hungry, noisy machines to make (not always) cheap transactions.


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November 22, 2019, 03:10:27 PM
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I think it is too harsh to say all of cyrpto is a scam.
Certainly there are plenty of scams out there, and equally there are plenty of legitimate projects that have no real use case and don't offer anything new.

But it is also the case that there is some good stuff out there. Bitcoin for a start. Similarly it would be difficult to argue that Ethereum is a scam - there is a lot of interesting functionality there which is not present in BTC - smart contracts have a real solid use-case. Same for XRP, definite use-case in international banking, which can't be filled by BTC.

So some are scams, a lot are pointless, and a smaller amount are genuinely great projects with talented developers, well-thought-out road-maps, rock-solid real-world use-cases.

(That may be my personal record for consecutive hyphens.)
I agree that not all crypto projects can be definitely called a scam. But there's a really huge amount of scam projects which makes very difficult to find good one. Only a thorough individual research and market analysis can help you to separate a gem from the garbage.
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November 23, 2019, 01:18:28 AM
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The crypto market can go further, but this is the market for startup projects to make money and disappear rather than serious project development.  They do not know how to make money and they have invented ways to raise money, print their own money (token of project) and find ways to sell them to everyone.  Speculators continually buy and find ways to increase the value of cryptos and sell them quickly to make a profit.  On the marketcap almost all projects reduce their value from 2 to 100 times.  Only BNB has been driven to increase prices in the last IEO trend.
The consequence of today's market is due to the fact that the fomo is so high that it causes a collapse in the price model.  Some projects have reduced points but they always try to create their products such as Link, Nuls, Thorchain ... and many other projects.  As long as their team is active and the programmer is working, the project cannot be called a scam.
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November 23, 2019, 03:41:35 AM
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I think it is too harsh to say all of cyrpto is a scam.
Certainly there are plenty of scams out there, and equally there are plenty of legitimate projects that have no real use case and don't offer anything new.

But it is also the case that there is some good stuff out there. Bitcoin for a start. Similarly it would be difficult to argue that Ethereum is a scam - there is a lot of interesting functionality there which is not present in BTC - smart contracts have a real solid use-case. Same for XRP, definite use-case in international banking, which can't be filled by BTC.

So some are scams, a lot are pointless, and a smaller amount are genuinely great projects with talented developers, well-thought-out road-maps, rock-solid real-world use-cases.

(That may be my personal record for consecutive hyphens.)
I agree that not all crypto projects can be definitely called a scam. But there's a really huge amount of scam projects which makes very difficult to find good one. Only a thorough individual research and market analysis can help you to separate a gem from the garbage.
the problem now is, it seems difficult to sort out between an agus project and a garbage project, many of which are mis-analyzed. therefore not a few people are frustrated with this, and they stop investing in new projects. and choose to wait for the market to return to normal or invest in coins that are already trusted


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November 23, 2019, 03:47:36 AM
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I think IEO and ICO, many of them are scam so its hard to say it will take longer of time. After bounty tokens distribution all of those coins automatically dump, and cant follow the main price of their coin.

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November 23, 2019, 05:29:44 AM
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In my own opinion, I do not think that all crypto is a scam. If there is an existence of one original product, there is every  possibility that the counterfeit will also exist. Though quite alright some crypto are scam but not at all. The crypto enthusiasts are the ones that need to be careful with the choice of crypto they want to participate in. There is a need to look before one leaps. There must be a thorough research into any crypto aspect that one wishes to partake of so as not to be a victim of scam ones. The necessary parameters in checking of authenticity of any crypto project before participating must be adopted.
Well said, it is pretty accurate that there are some of them that is proven as scam and you have to be aware that you can't easily get rid of some problems regarding on scams in cryptocurrency. What can you expect? people these days are taking advantage of crypto to get the benefits they wanted and if you don't want to get scammed then educate yourself. You should be cautious and attentive, do some research or ask people for their opinions before engaging into something so you won't end up feeling remorse about your actions and decisions, then after that blame everything in cryptocurrency because of your stupid actions. Sometimes we are the problem, cryptocurrency is speculative and that is the reason why you have to prepare yourself to overcome or avoid falling into some sort of scam.

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November 23, 2019, 05:35:15 AM
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I think IEO and ICO, many of them are scam so its hard to say it will take longer of time. After bounty tokens distribution all of those coins automatically dump, and cant follow the main price of their coin.

It's depends on what ICO/IEo that you joined, there are many ICO and IEO outthere that the price was pumped right after the IEO ends, so i think it depends on the quality and the hype of the project. If the project is good and the exchange who held it is credible (for IEO) i'm sure there are many people hunt it for demands and it will be profitable for the investors

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November 23, 2019, 06:09:45 AM
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I think IEO and ICO, many of them are scam so its hard to say it will take longer of time. After bounty tokens distribution all of those coins automatically dump, and cant follow the main price of their coin.
it's true that many are scam and difficult to distinguish.
but depending on the product quality of the project, if the product cannot be expected for the long term, it is certain when listing on the market will be dumped because people are not sure about the project. the average successful projects are those that have good products, initially dumped because of the bounty hunter but after that they can survive and the price is rise up again, I have seen in several projects that I followed before. 10 of the projects that I joined only really survived is only 3, because the product was really good.

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November 23, 2019, 06:29:41 AM
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I think IEO and ICO, many of them are scam so its hard to say it will take longer of time. After bounty tokens distribution all of those coins automatically dump, and cant follow the main price of their coin.

It's depends on what ICO/IEo that you joined, there are many ICO and IEO outthere that the price was pumped right after the IEO ends, so i think it depends on the quality and the hype of the project. If the project is good and the exchange who held it is credible (for IEO) i'm sure there are many people hunt it for demands and it will be profitable for the investors
Judging all IEO are scams is not right, you won't see the project appears everyday. But I will agree if all IEO project are shitcoin which mean its price will high before it launched on the exchange but after that its price goes down even it is worthess eventually.

Give me an altcoin which launched through IEO and its prices is stabil, I mean its price still high although it was launched on an exchange? I will be intresting to know it more. Even, I'll buy the coin when the developer make another project.
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November 23, 2019, 06:32:52 AM
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I think IEO and ICO, many of them are scam so its hard to say it will take longer of time. After bounty tokens distribution all of those coins automatically dump, and cant follow the main price of their coin.
I believed we should also blame some investors too who invest in those ICOs and IEOs They are always after the juicy bonuses churn out during pre-ICO not minding the viability, reliability and credibility of that projects while the team of those ICOs are after money invariably after raking in millions of fund they would run in thin air thus the project becoming scam this had been painting investing in cryptos in a bad light.

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November 23, 2019, 06:48:52 AM
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I think IEO and ICO, many of them are scam so its hard to say it will take longer of time. After bounty tokens distribution all of those coins automatically dump, and cant follow the main price of their coin.

It's depends on what ICO/IEo that you joined, there are many ICO and IEO outthere that the price was pumped right after the IEO ends, so i think it depends on the quality and the hype of the project. If the project is good and the exchange who held it is credible (for IEO) i'm sure there are many people hunt it for demands and it will be profitable for the investors

I don't know about the other exchange IEO but mostly i am following the Binance IEO's, most of the coins listed in binance exchange are increasing their prices right after the IEO's. Of course, there are other exchanges which people are investing in IEO's but don't know how far they are getting profit through those exchanges.
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November 23, 2019, 07:20:57 AM
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I sometimes ask myself: if crypto was not considered as a mechanism for making fast money, would it have attracted so much attention? Probably not. Almost the value of coin with USD is every thing. Trading is not wrong thing, USD itself is also traded today. But, USD is used in real life as required, so what about crypto? I guess the answer is no again.

The average person using it to TRADE/find profit quickly I guess that's attracting the attention of many, but not all is aiming for it, many also do have goals such as payment or other.
So we have to look from the other side too.

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November 23, 2019, 07:55:54 AM
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I think IEO and ICO, many of them are scam so its hard to say it will take longer of time. After bounty tokens distribution all of those coins automatically dump, and cant follow the main price of their coin.
What you say is often the case at the moment, but we also cannot judge all IEO or ICO projects as such, because there are also many good and good projects for IEO and ICO to follow.
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November 23, 2019, 08:02:10 AM
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As far as i know IEO projects from gate and binance always end up with 2x upward and investors do gain better profits, i am into these two exchanges only so i can't say much about the rest

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November 23, 2019, 08:33:20 AM
 #180

I think IEO and ICO, many of them are scam so its hard to say it will take longer of time. After bounty tokens distribution all of those coins automatically dump, and cant follow the main price of their coin.
I believed we should also blame some investors too who invest in those ICOs and IEOs They are always after the juicy bonuses churn out during pre-ICO not minding the viability, reliability and credibility of that projects while the team of those ICOs are after money invariably after raking in millions of fund they would run in thin air thus the project becoming scam this had been painting investing in cryptos in a bad light.
we cannot blame investors, investors also seek profits in that, the bonuses offered by some projects are more than 50%,
and that is the fault of the project itself, why? the system provided is very bad, if they limit investors in taking bonuses it's good,

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