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November 21, 2019, 05:05:57 AM
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Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum and in a situation where I need some advice.
A person I know, who I have been in contact with for months now (through social media), has been trading bitcoin for me and some friends. Everything seems to be fine and seems to be really trustworthy.

However.., now he is asking me to deposit 2 bitcoin on my Blockchain(.com) account, where he previously has had access to for the following reason;

He tells me he added me to bitcoin mining but there was a `server error' which he tracked down to my account and somehow all bitcoin is `encrypted in 1 block'. The result is a large amount of bitcoin in a `non-spendable/watch only' wallet that is sitting on my account.
He says he needs a minimum of 2 bitcoin to be added to my account to remotely start `decryption of the encrypted block', which he cannot deposit, since he is region locked. (We are from different regions)

So, to me this sounds like a scam.
1: I have done my research and found similar constructions related to non-spendable wallet scams.
2: Yes, he had access to the account, so could simply have added the watch only wallet..
3: I can not find anything about large amounts of bitcoin being encrypted in one block, and decryption being possible only after a deposit of x amount of bitcoin.

So the question is; what is your opinion on this topic?
I also noticed that the value (in dollars) of the non-spendable bitcoin is affected by market fluctuations. So the value shifts depending on what the coins are worth. Is this normal for a non-spendable wallet?

thx!
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November 21, 2019, 05:13:36 AM
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It is a scam, the second you send him that 2 bitcoins, he'll either stop communicating with you, or if he feels you're gullible, he could come up with a different story to get more money from you, it's in your best interest to cut that communication with that scammer. What platform are you communicating in, report his account there, he is a scammer.
A person I know, who I have been in contact with for months now (through social media), has been trading bitcoin for me and some friends. Everything seems to be fine and seems to be really trustworthy.
Never entrust your funds to someone else to trade for you, they(scammer)would initially build trust with their victims so you do not suspect anything, then you'll think they are trustworthy and can also refer others, the moment they've done that, they would start their request(scam attempt), just as you're asked to deposit 2 BTC for shit. If you do not know how to trade, do not trade till you've learnt how to do so.

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November 21, 2019, 05:19:45 AM
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Never trust anyone who you have met online. A lot of people will promise you a lot of income in exchange for their service, and to deposit that amount to ***.  Have encountered this kind of scheme before and in all different  ways. The only pthing you need to know is to never ever let anyone handle your money online.

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November 21, 2019, 05:22:33 AM
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Definitely a scam, OP. Do not fall for this kind of trap since he has an access  to your account. 2 btc is really huge, good thing you already have not give your full trust to him and you did a research about that kind of fraudalent act.

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He says he needs a minimum of 2 bitcoin to be added to my account to remotely start `decryption of the encrypted block', which he cannot deposit, since he is region locked. (We are from different regions)

This is absurd. For him to be able to access it, he needs huge amount of btc? That's not unbelievable.
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November 21, 2019, 05:28:34 AM
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How much Bitcoin do you deal with him before? This is an obvious scam. There is no way that if you send 2BTC in that wallet will solve the problem. First of all, why the heck it requires 2BTC to process that that queue BTC. In case there is bitcoin sitting in your wallet address. You need to contact miner to process your transaction and there is same case here with that. But putting 2BTC in your wallet will not solve anything, It will just solve the scammer needs. LMAO.

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November 21, 2019, 05:57:13 AM
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big or as small as the requested bitcoin deposit, if you don't know him well (family or good friends) please don't give it. because the world of the internet, especially bitcoin / cryptocurrency is a free world. scammers are everywhere. if you have 2BTC bitcoin, it's better to trade. if you can't then learn trade.
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November 21, 2019, 06:14:19 AM
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You need 2 BTC to solve this problem, I think this scamer you have to be logical in evaluating it, remember the people you know on the internet don't believe it 100% is not necessarily good, the scamer continues to seduce you to continue to deposit the funds needed.
Better 2 btc is used by you by investing long-term or trading without having to bother the problem, and leave friends like that.
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November 21, 2019, 06:21:58 AM
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Don't go for a second thinking, it is a pure scam. Feel happy that you haven't got trapped, because you were into some trade deals for a long time for you and your friends. Also keep your friends informed of the same, sometimes he might contact your friends and make them fall into the trap. Scammers try as many ways to get profited, and it is really hard to find it as their words will be so soft even the one who have doubt from the very beginning will believe.

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November 21, 2019, 06:28:20 AM
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1. A person you only know through social media(could be a catfish) is asking you to send funds on a wallet he previously had access to.
2. He's making up some techno mumbo jumbo in the hopes of you not knowing what they mean(nothing).
3. Region block with bitcoin, seriously? lmao

Those 3 should be enough for you to see that it's a scam, without needing to dig further.

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November 21, 2019, 06:29:32 AM
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I once also got a fraud like this so often contacted me via telegram, first he asked me to help him withdraw BTC in his account and give me account access, but suddenly I could not withdraw it because the funds were frozen and had to make a deposit of around 0.5 BTC , he asked me again to lend 0.5 BTC and I will be given 2 BTC if the funds there can be withdrawn, I know the person who contacted me is the owner of the site, so same as above, never trust people who ask you to transfer money or bitcoin, always ask people in this forum

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November 21, 2019, 07:18:39 AM
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This is a very different scam tactic. You mentioned that he traded for you and some of your friends and now he  wants 2 BTC for whatever reason he told you. Two things are involved here
1: Either he got hacked and the hacker wants to seize the opportunity but this is slightly possible, or
2. He believes he has gained your trust and wants to use that weakness against you.
Overall conclusion, don't send anything to any wallet and stop sending random stranger on the internet to do things for you.
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November 21, 2019, 08:28:52 AM
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if you've never met him, don't ever do that. many people try to commit fraud like that. sometimes they build trust first, before taking a greater advantage, moreover, you are in a different country.
just curious, whether from the trading results generated by that person ever sent to you? whatever the reason, 2 bitcoin is too big, and it's too risky for people you don't know.
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November 21, 2019, 08:35:00 AM
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However.., now he is asking me to deposit 2 bitcoin on my Blockchain(.com) account, where he previously has had access to for the following reason;

Why does he have access to your own blockchain account? You must be trustworthy enough to trust your wallet to some stranger.


He tells me he added me to bitcoin mining but there was a `server error' which he tracked down to my account and somehow all bitcoin is `encrypted in 1 block'. The result is a large amount of bitcoin in a `non-spendable/watch only' wallet that is sitting on my account.
He says he needs a minimum of 2 bitcoin to be added to my account to remotely start `decryption of the encrypted block', which he cannot deposit, since he is region locked. (We are from different regions)

Did he discuss it before adding you to bitcoin mining? Did he consider your own decision or you just give him every right to take actions without your consideration.

For me it is a scam, you clearly said that "He needs a minimum of 2 bitcoin", not for you but for him. You're at a disadvantage here, he has access to your account and if he stole your funds you have nothing to do to get it back.
Don't have any second thought, you should not agree to all his terms, consider your own thinking.

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It's a scam, remove all means the he can access your account, send it to other wallet he didn't know or have access with. At first he will sure really get your trust and might be doing the job properly and once you trust him already you'll notice you don't earn anymore in trading and probably you will lose all and he will ask for more. Don't trust anyone try to learn trading on your own or simply hold those potential coins.

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Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum and in a situation where I need some advice.
A person I know, who I have been in contact with for months now (through social media), has been trading bitcoin for me and some friends. Everything seems to be fine and seems to be really trustworthy.

However.., now he is asking me to deposit 2 bitcoin on my Blockchain(.com) account, where he previously has had access to for the following reason;
Here's the first question you can ask yourself. Has he risked more then 2 BTC worth of his money trading with me, or could he possibly only have been trading small amounts like 0.01 every so often in order to build trust and try pull this scam with me?

He says he needs a minimum of 2 bitcoin to be added to my account to remotely start `decryption of the encrypted block', which he cannot deposit, since he is region locked. (We are from different regions)
This just does not work. There is no such thing as decryption of encrypted blocks and you wouldn't need 2 BTC for it. Ask him to send you 2 BTC which you can deposit in the account if you want to help him.

So, to me this sounds like a scam.
1: I have done my research and found similar constructions related to non-spendable wallet scams.
2: Yes, he had access to the account, so could simply have added the watch only wallet..
3: I can not find anything about large amounts of bitcoin being encrypted in one block, and decryption being possible only after a deposit of x amount of bitcoin.
What he is likely going to do is find a way to access your wallet via some backdoor method and end up stealing your coins that way.

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It's a scam, remove all means the he can access your account, send it to other wallet he didn't know or have access with. At first he will sure really get your trust and might be doing the job properly and once you trust him already you'll notice you don't earn anymore in trading and probably you will lose all and he will ask for more. Don't trust anyone try to learn trading on your own or simply hold those potential coins.
I agree.
Actually the scammer already got his trust since he has given already access to his account, and now the scammer is trying to take an action and taking advantage of the trust he had given.
He should start not to rely on anyone when it comes to his money because if he continues what he is doing, he will only lose all his hard-earned money.


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I support others on the matter of not sending 2 BTC. Those things he told you about mining and watch-only address sound like jibberish that is put into smart words. And one more thing: if you have any BTC in the wallet to which that person used to have access (so, possibly, still does), GET THAT BITCOIN OUT while you still can (that is, if it is really in that wallet). Be careful doing business with this person. If someone says that more of your money is needed for whatever reason, it's a scam. I'm glad you spotted it and at least decided to ask about it here. You could have lost a lot of money.

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November 21, 2019, 10:14:06 AM
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I had an experience of being scam before so better take advise from others here of do not trust anyone online. The mere fact he had an access to your account and in a quick of time he might scam all of your money. There are many scammers doing this kind of thing, they handle your money and asking to deposit some btc. Might as well do on your own to have a return of profit to all of your funds.
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Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum and in a situation where I need some advice.
A person I know, who I have been in contact with for months now (through social media), has been trading bitcoin for me and some friends. Everything seems to be fine and seems to be really trustworthy.

However.., now he is asking me to deposit 2 bitcoin on my Blockchain(.com) account, where he previously has had access to for the following reason;

He tells me he added me to bitcoin mining but there was a `server error' which he tracked down to my account and somehow all bitcoin is `encrypted in 1 block'. The result is a large amount of bitcoin in a `non-spendable/watch only' wallet that is sitting on my account.
He says he needs a minimum of 2 bitcoin to be added to my account to remotely start `decryption of the encrypted block', which he cannot deposit, since he is region locked. (We are from different regions)

So, to me this sounds like a scam.
1: I have done my research and found similar constructions related to non-spendable wallet scams.
2: Yes, he had access to the account, so could simply have added the watch only wallet..
3: I can not find anything about large amounts of bitcoin being encrypted in one block, and decryption being possible only after a deposit of x amount of bitcoin.

So the question is; what is your opinion on this topic?
I also noticed that the value (in dollars) of the non-spendable bitcoin is affected by market fluctuations. So the value shifts depending on what the coins are worth. Is this normal for a non-spendable wallet?

thx!

You know that friend from social media only and will he send you 2 BTC? I wish I had friends like that. Smiley

Did you ask him? Why doesn't he create a few different blockchain wallets?

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November 21, 2019, 10:45:39 AM
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big or as small as the requested bitcoin deposit, if you don't know him well (family or good friends) please don't give it. because the world of the internet, especially bitcoin / cryptocurrency is a free world. scammers are everywhere. if you have 2BTC bitcoin, it's better to trade. if you can't then learn trade.
Don't let his words deceive you because you can't see people's true intentions with your money, they are just probably taking advantage of you to get what they want so be cautious. Some of us are falling into some sort of scam by believing on something that is quite impossible, you can't easily say that they are being real unless they have shown you some proofs and evidences. Be careful especially on making decision with your bitcoins because one mistake can change everything and it is possible that you will lose your bitcoin for nothing.

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