LEGAL "FACTS" MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW, BUT SHOULD

[franky1]

is badecker still running down the freeman rabbit hole

Sounds like franky1 is still head-in-the-sand ostrich hole.

your the one who just copies and pastes stuff from freman-esq sites without even bothering to think/research it.
this very thread has shown how you didnt even do the background check on the sources. nor see if the legal cases even relate to what the points were even asserting.

you got called out tooo much

some kind advice
maybe next time, check your sources twice before posting. or it can end up being used against you if they dont play out to what you assert

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[BADecker]

is badecker still running down the freeman rabbit hole

Sounds like franky1 is still head-in-the-sand ostrich hole.

your the one who just copies and pastes stuff from freman-esq sites without even bothering to think/research it.
this very thread has shown how you didnt even do the background check on the sources. nor see if the legal cases even relate to what the points were even asserting.

you got called out tooo much

some kind advice
maybe next time, check your sources twice before posting. or it can end up being used against you if they dont play out to what you assert

You're the on who failed using your stuff I don't use. So, console yourself with the thought that someone else is using your daffy stuff that failed, even if it isn't true. Licking your wounds often makes them feel better.

[franky1]

You're the on who failed using your stuff I don't use. So, console yourself with the thought that someone else is using your daffy stuff that failed, even if it isn't true. Licking your wounds often makes them feel better.

you literally quote stuff straight from freeman crap sites. you even use their buzzwords.
i would spell it out for you how innaccurate you are in many things, but i guess if i did spell it out you would just reply that you require me to teach you the alphabet to before you even consider doing something for yourself and looking beyond your limited resources

you have no clue.
so last time ill give you a hint.
stop quoting the freeman crap. they have been debunked by many people many years ago. making your mindset flawed and outdated by a fad that died out years ago

[KingScorpio]

A few days ago I posted the below stuff into a self-moderated thread. The owner moderator took the post down. My thoughts are that when such a moderator takes posts down, that part of the reason is that it might be too  relevant in some way.

I took the below from a website called "Stop the Pirates" - http://stopthepirates.blogspot.com/. Since then the site as been reduced in size to only a fraction of what it was when I was there then. And the below info isn't included in the site any longer.

Maybe it is just a hint for me to stop posting the info. But here it is again. And. I have taken it under fair use. I have posted the source site, above, even though they have taken this info down.

What I am looking for is comments regarding the below info. Is it right? Is it wrong? Has it been discarded in law? Has it been overruled by various court cases? Are the legal sites accurate? What does anyone think? The points are numbered, so it should be easy to answer them point-by-point.


1. The IRS is Not a US government agency.  It is an agency of the IMF (International Monetary Fund) (Diversified Metal Products v I.R.S et al.  CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391)

2. The IMF (International Monetary Fund) is an agency of the U.N. (Black’s Law Dictionary 6th Ed. page 816)

3. The United States has NOT had a Treasury since 1921 (41 Stat. Ch 214 page 654)

4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF (International Monetary Fund) (Presidential Documents Volume 24-No. 4 page 113, 22 U.S.C. 285-2887)

5. The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States! No more reorganizations. After over 200 years of bankruptcy it is finally over. (Executive Order 12803)

6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never  part of the U.S. government, even though the “U.S. Government” held stock in the agencies. (U.S. v Strang, 254 US491 Lewis v. US, 680 F.2nd, 1239)

7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the U.N. through the IMF (International Monetary Fund). The application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 Form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 forms and not the Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who publishes them while the old form states they are “Department of the Treasury”. (20 CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) Chap. 111 Subpart B. 422.103 (b))

8. There are NO Judicial Courts in America and have not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464 Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat 138-178)

9. There have NOT been any judges in America since 1789. There have just been administrators.  (FRC v. GE 281 US 464 Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1 Stat. 138-178)

10. According to GATT (The General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade) you MUST have a Social Security number. (House Report (103-826)

11. New York City is defined in Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Guiliani stated on C-Span that “New York City is the capital of the World.” For once, he told the truth. (20 CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) Chap. 111, subpart B 44.103 (b) (2) (2) )

12. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund.  (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619 Steward Co. v. Davis 301 US 548)

13. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF (International Monetary Fund), which is an agency of the United Nations. (It says “U.S. Department of Treasury” at the top left corner, which again is part of the U.N. as pointed out above)

14.You own NO property!!! Slaves can’t own property. Read carefully the Deed to the property you think is yours.  You are listed as a TENANT. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)

15. The most powerful court in America is NOT the United States Supreme court, but rather the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 PA. C.S.A. 502)

16. The King of England financially backed both sides of the American Revolutionary War..   (Treaty of Versailles-July 16, 1782 Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)

17. You CANNOT use the U.S. Constitution to defend yourself because you are NOT a party to it!  The U.S. Constitution applies to the CORPORATION OF THE UNITED STATES, a privately owned and operated corporation (headquartered out of Washington, DC) much like IBM (International Business Machines, Microsoft, et al) and NOT to the people of the sovereign Republic of the united States of America.  (Padelford Fay & Co. v The Mayor and Alderman of the City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)

18. America is a British Colony. The United States is a corporation, not a land mass and it existed before the Revolutionary War and the British Troops did not leave until 1796 (Republica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774)

19. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVsMUpPgdT0

20. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)

21. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol. 1, 53-54)

22. A 1040 Form is for tribute paid to Britain (IRS Publication 6209)

23. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery.  (Papal Bulls of 1495 & 1493)

24. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people.(Papal Bulls of 1455 & 1493)

25. The Pope’s laws are obligatory on everyone.  (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix, c. vii, n. 4. Prati, 1844 Syllabus Prop 28, 29, 44)

26. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing, NOT even what we think are our children.  (Tillman vs. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten vs. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 438 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481)

27. Military dictator George Washington divided up the States (Estates) in to Districts  (Messages and papers of the Presidents Volume 1 page 99 1828 Dictionary of Estate).

28. “The People” does NOT include you and me. (Barron vs. Mayor and City Council of Baltimore 32 U.S. 243)

29. It is NOT the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers. (SAPP vs. Tallahassee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, REiff vs. City of Phila. 477 F. 1262, Lynch vs. NC Dept. of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247)

30. Every thing in the “United States” is up for sale: bridges, roads, water, schools, hospitals, prisons, airports, etc, etc… Did anybody take time to check who bought Klamath Lake?? (Executive Order 12803)

31. “We are human capital” (Executive Order 13037).  The world cabal makes money off of the use of your signatures on mortgages, car loans, credit cards, your social security number, etc.

32. The U.N. – United Nations – has financed the operations of the United States government (the corporation of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) for over 50 years (U.S. Department of Treasury is part of the U.N. see above) and now owns every man, woman and child in America.
The U.N. also holds all of the land of America in Fee Simple.
The good news is we don’t have to fulfill “our” fictitious obligations. You can discharge a fictitious obligation with another’s fictitious obligation.

what is a society that is acceptable according to BadDecker and other radical muslims, the slaughtering islamic state because it shots into everyones head if he isn't praying how ordered?

[BADecker]

what is a society that is acceptable according to BadDecker and other radical muslims, the slaughtering islamic state because it shots into everyones head if he isn't praying how ordered?

The only really acceptable society is one that allows freedom for all individuals who are adults.

The only exception is when it is proven that an individual has harmed or damaged another human or his property. The freedom is taken from the guilty person until he has paid off the debt of harm or damage.

Judgment as to guilt must be based on at least one witness besides the harmed/damaged person, and substantial evidence... and the defendant gets to cross examine the accuser and the witness.

A judge may make the judgment, but the defendant may require a jury of 12 impartial men and women.


Do Muslims have rules like this? These are the basic rules in the USA.

Seems to me that rules for Muslims are found in the Koran and Hadiths. Islamic rules promote lack of freedom, and violence at times.

[KingScorpio]

what is a society that is acceptable according to BadDecker and other radical muslims, the slaughtering islamic state because it shots into everyones head if he isn't praying how ordered?

The only really acceptable society is one that allows freedom for all individuals who are adults.

The only exception is when it is proven that an individual has harmed or damaged another human or his property. The freedom is taken from the guilty person until he has paid off the debt of harm or damage.

Judgment as to guilt must be based on at least one witness besides the harmed/damaged person, and substantial evidence... and the defendant gets to cross examine the accuser and the witness.

A judge may make the judgment, but the defendant may require a jury of 12 impartial men and women.


Do Muslims have rules like this? These are the basic rules in the USA.

Seems to me that rules for Muslims are found in the Koran and Hadiths. Islamic rules promote lack of freedom, and violence at times.

read human history there is property over the means of production (equity) there is exploitation, islam is easy to handle as everyone thinks he goes to hell if he harms his fellow brothers but it can backfire, (exploitation etc.)

historically armies that go into battle in order to get into paradise aren't very good armies as they dont seek to win. islamic state terror spreads now because world is still influenced by american hedonism (liberalism) but once this turns, armies seeking to die are not good fighters anymore.

secondly what do you recommend what shall europe do with those migrants it gets from third world?

[BADecker]

what is a society that is acceptable according to BadDecker and other radical muslims, the slaughtering islamic state because it shots into everyones head if he isn't praying how ordered?

The only really acceptable society is one that allows freedom for all individuals who are adults.

The only exception is when it is proven that an individual has harmed or damaged another human or his property. The freedom is taken from the guilty person until he has paid off the debt of harm or damage.

Judgment as to guilt must be based on at least one witness besides the harmed/damaged person, and substantial evidence... and the defendant gets to cross examine the accuser and the witness.

A judge may make the judgment, but the defendant may require a jury of 12 impartial men and women.


Do Muslims have rules like this? These are the basic rules in the USA.

Seems to me that rules for Muslims are found in the Koran and Hadiths. Islamic rules promote lack of freedom, and violence at times.

read human history there is property over the means of production (equity) there is exploitation, islam is easy to handle as everyone thinks he goes to hell if he harms his fellow brothers but it can backfire, (exploitation etc.)

historically armies that go into battle in order to get into paradise aren't very good armies as they dont seek to win. islamic state terror spreads now because world is still influenced by american hedonism (liberalism) but once this turns, armies seeking to die are not good fighters anymore.

secondly what do you recommend what shall europe do with those migrants it gets from third world?

You misunderstand Islam. Their fellow brothers according to the Koran and Hadiths are fellow Muslims. Other people are infidels and can be treated in any way a Muslim wants. That's the difference between Islam and most other religions.

Generally other religions say to convert people, but don't harm them. Muslims say this too, regarding a time-period where the Muslim tries to convert the infidel. But if the infidel isn't converted, he is supposed to be executed. The execution time is a judgmental thing, based on the safety of the Muslims when they do the executing, and based on how close to Islam conversion the Infidels might be.

We all might have ideas on what Europe is to do with immigrants. You read my ideas, above. No punishment except for harm and property damage. There is one other thing that I didn't spell out in this thread. Threat. Knowing what Islam is, allowing Muslims to immigrate is accepting a threat. But what Europe does is up to them. Most of Europe is not under the non-agresion ideals I suggest. Their governments are civil law governments, which are basically like religious Islam without the religion part.

However, none of this has much to do with the points in the OP directly. So, what's your point?

[bananacue]

A few days ago I posted the below stuff into a self-moderated thread. The owner moderator took the post down. My thoughts are that when such a moderator takes posts down, that part of the reason is that it might be too  relevant in some way.

I took the below from a website called "Stop the Pirates" - http://stopthepirates.blogspot.com/. Since then the site as been reduced in size to only a fraction of what it was when I was there then. And the below info isn't included in the site any longer.

Maybe it is just a hint for me to stop posting the info. But here it is again. And. I have taken it under fair use. I have posted the source site, above, even though they have taken this info down.

What I am looking for is comments regarding the below info. Is it right? Is it wrong? Has it been discarded in law? Has it been overruled by various court cases? Are the legal sites accurate? What does anyone think? The points are numbered, so it should be easy to answer them point-by-point.


1. The IRS is Not a US government agency.  It is an agency of the IMF (International Monetary Fund) (Diversified Metal Products v I.R.S et al.  CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391)

2. The IMF (International Monetary Fund) is an agency of the U.N. (Black’s Law Dictionary 6th Ed. page 816)

3. The United States has NOT had a Treasury since 1921 (41 Stat. Ch 214 page 654)

4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF (International Monetary Fund) (Presidential Documents Volume 24-No. 4 page 113, 22 U.S.C. 285-2887)

5. The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States! No more reorganizations. After over 200 years of bankruptcy it is finally over. (Executive Order 12803)

6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never  part of the U.S. government, even though the “U.S. Government” held stock in the agencies. (U.S. v Strang, 254 US491 Lewis v. US, 680 F.2nd, 1239)

7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the U.N. through the IMF (International Monetary Fund). The application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 Form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 forms and not the Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who publishes them while the old form states they are “Department of the Treasury”. (20 CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) Chap. 111 Subpart B. 422.103 (b))

8. There are NO Judicial Courts in America and have not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464 Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat 138-178)

9. There have NOT been any judges in America since 1789. There have just been administrators.  (FRC v. GE 281 US 464 Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1 Stat. 138-178)

10. According to GATT (The General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade) you MUST have a Social Security number. (House Report (103-826)

11. New York City is defined in Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Guiliani stated on C-Span that “New York City is the capital of the World.” For once, he told the truth. (20 CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) Chap. 111, subpart B 44.103 (b) (2) (2) )

12. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund.  (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619 Steward Co. v. Davis 301 US 548)

13. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF (International Monetary Fund), which is an agency of the United Nations. (It says “U.S. Department of Treasury” at the top left corner, which again is part of the U.N. as pointed out above)

14.You own NO property!!! Slaves can’t own property. Read carefully the Deed to the property you think is yours.  You are listed as a TENANT. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)

15. The most powerful court in America is NOT the United States Supreme court, but rather the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 PA. C.S.A. 502)

16. The King of England financially backed both sides of the American Revolutionary War..   (Treaty of Versailles-July 16, 1782 Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)

17. You CANNOT use the U.S. Constitution to defend yourself because you are NOT a party to it!  The U.S. Constitution applies to the CORPORATION OF THE UNITED STATES, a privately owned and operated corporation (headquartered out of Washington, DC) much like IBM (International Business Machines, Microsoft, et al) and NOT to the people of the sovereign Republic of the united States of America.  (Padelford Fay & Co. v The Mayor and Alderman of the City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)

18. America is a British Colony. The United States is a corporation, not a land mass and it existed before the Revolutionary War and the British Troops did not leave until 1796 (Republica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774)

19. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVsMUpPgdT0

20. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)

21. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol. 1, 53-54)

22. A 1040 Form is for tribute paid to Britain (IRS Publication 6209)

23. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery.  (Papal Bulls of 1495 & 1493)

24. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people.(Papal Bulls of 1455 & 1493)

25. The Pope’s laws are obligatory on everyone.  (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix, c. vii, n. 4. Prati, 1844 Syllabus Prop 28, 29, 44)

26. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing, NOT even what we think are our children.  (Tillman vs. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten vs. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 438 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481)

27. Military dictator George Washington divided up the States (Estates) in to Districts  (Messages and papers of the Presidents Volume 1 page 99 1828 Dictionary of Estate).

28. “The People” does NOT include you and me. (Barron vs. Mayor and City Council of Baltimore 32 U.S. 243)

29. It is NOT the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers. (SAPP vs. Tallahassee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, REiff vs. City of Phila. 477 F. 1262, Lynch vs. NC Dept. of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247)

30. Every thing in the “United States” is up for sale: bridges, roads, water, schools, hospitals, prisons, airports, etc, etc… Did anybody take time to check who bought Klamath Lake?? (Executive Order 12803)

31. “We are human capital” (Executive Order 13037).  The world cabal makes money off of the use of your signatures on mortgages, car loans, credit cards, your social security number, etc.

32. The U.N. – United Nations – has financed the operations of the United States government (the corporation of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) for over 50 years (U.S. Department of Treasury is part of the U.N. see above) and now owns every man, woman and child in America.
The U.N. also holds all of the land of America in Fee Simple.
The good news is we don’t have to fulfill “our” fictitious obligations. You can discharge a fictitious obligation with another’s fictitious obligation.

There's a doctrine in law which is the doctrine of Ignorantia juris non excusat. its means that a person who violated a particular law cannot make a defense that he is not aware of such law. Because every law is being publish in the newspaper of general circulation before it can take effect, and everyone is presumed to have know such. Thus, he cannot escape from liability thereon and may still be held liable.

[BADecker]

A few days ago I posted the below stuff into a self-moderated thread. The owner moderator took the post down. My thoughts are that when such a moderator takes posts down, that part of the reason is that it might be too  relevant in some way.

I took the below from a website called "Stop the Pirates" - http://stopthepirates.blogspot.com/. Since then the site as been reduced in size to only a fraction of what it was when I was there then. And the below info isn't included in the site any longer.

Maybe it is just a hint for me to stop posting the info. But here it is again. And. I have taken it under fair use. I have posted the source site, above, even though they have taken this info down.

What I am looking for is comments regarding the below info. Is it right? Is it wrong? Has it been discarded in law? Has it been overruled by various court cases? Are the legal sites accurate? What does anyone think? The points are numbered, so it should be easy to answer them point-by-point.


1. The IRS is Not a US government agency.  It is an agency of the IMF (International Monetary Fund) (Diversified Metal Products v I.R.S et al.  CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391)

2. The IMF (International Monetary Fund) is an agency of the U.N. (Black’s Law Dictionary 6th Ed. page 816)

3. The United States has NOT had a Treasury since 1921 (41 Stat. Ch 214 page 654)

4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF (International Monetary Fund) (Presidential Documents Volume 24-No. 4 page 113, 22 U.S.C. 285-2887)

5. The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States! No more reorganizations. After over 200 years of bankruptcy it is finally over. (Executive Order 12803)

6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never  part of the U.S. government, even though the “U.S. Government” held stock in the agencies. (U.S. v Strang, 254 US491 Lewis v. US, 680 F.2nd, 1239)

7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the U.N. through the IMF (International Monetary Fund). The application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 Form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 forms and not the Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who publishes them while the old form states they are “Department of the Treasury”. (20 CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) Chap. 111 Subpart B. 422.103 (b))

8. There are NO Judicial Courts in America and have not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464 Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat 138-178)

9. There have NOT been any judges in America since 1789. There have just been administrators.  (FRC v. GE 281 US 464 Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1 Stat. 138-178)

10. According to GATT (The General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade) you MUST have a Social Security number. (House Report (103-826)

11. New York City is defined in Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Guiliani stated on C-Span that “New York City is the capital of the World.” For once, he told the truth. (20 CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) Chap. 111, subpart B 44.103 (b) (2) (2) )

12. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund.  (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619 Steward Co. v. Davis 301 US 548)

13. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF (International Monetary Fund), which is an agency of the United Nations. (It says “U.S. Department of Treasury” at the top left corner, which again is part of the U.N. as pointed out above)

14.You own NO property!!! Slaves can’t own property. Read carefully the Deed to the property you think is yours.  You are listed as a TENANT. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)

15. The most powerful court in America is NOT the United States Supreme court, but rather the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 PA. C.S.A. 502)

16. The King of England financially backed both sides of the American Revolutionary War..   (Treaty of Versailles-July 16, 1782 Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)

17. You CANNOT use the U.S. Constitution to defend yourself because you are NOT a party to it!  The U.S. Constitution applies to the CORPORATION OF THE UNITED STATES, a privately owned and operated corporation (headquartered out of Washington, DC) much like IBM (International Business Machines, Microsoft, et al) and NOT to the people of the sovereign Republic of the united States of America.  (Padelford Fay & Co. v The Mayor and Alderman of the City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)

18. America is a British Colony. The United States is a corporation, not a land mass and it existed before the Revolutionary War and the British Troops did not leave until 1796 (Republica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774)

19. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVsMUpPgdT0

20. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)

21. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol. 1, 53-54)

22. A 1040 Form is for tribute paid to Britain (IRS Publication 6209)

23. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery.  (Papal Bulls of 1495 & 1493)

24. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people.(Papal Bulls of 1455 & 1493)

25. The Pope’s laws are obligatory on everyone.  (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix, c. vii, n. 4. Prati, 1844 Syllabus Prop 28, 29, 44)

26. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing, NOT even what we think are our children.  (Tillman vs. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten vs. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 438 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481)

27. Military dictator George Washington divided up the States (Estates) in to Districts  (Messages and papers of the Presidents Volume 1 page 99 1828 Dictionary of Estate).

28. “The People” does NOT include you and me. (Barron vs. Mayor and City Council of Baltimore 32 U.S. 243)

29. It is NOT the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers. (SAPP vs. Tallahassee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, REiff vs. City of Phila. 477 F. 1262, Lynch vs. NC Dept. of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247)

30. Every thing in the “United States” is up for sale: bridges, roads, water, schools, hospitals, prisons, airports, etc, etc… Did anybody take time to check who bought Klamath Lake?? (Executive Order 12803)

31. “We are human capital” (Executive Order 13037).  The world cabal makes money off of the use of your signatures on mortgages, car loans, credit cards, your social security number, etc.

32. The U.N. – United Nations – has financed the operations of the United States government (the corporation of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) for over 50 years (U.S. Department of Treasury is part of the U.N. see above) and now owns every man, woman and child in America.
The U.N. also holds all of the land of America in Fee Simple.
The good news is we don’t have to fulfill “our” fictitious obligations. You can discharge a fictitious obligation with another’s fictitious obligation.

There's a doctrine in law which is the doctrine of Ignorantia juris non excusat. its means that a person who violated a particular law cannot make a defense that he is not aware of such law. Because every law is being publish in the newspaper of general circulation before it can take effect, and everyone is presumed to have know such. Thus, he cannot escape from liability thereon and may still be held liable.

You have a point. But it isn't what you think.

The basic point about ignorance of the law is that the person/defendant listed on the indictment isn't the man/woman being accused. There are only two ways the indictment person can be the man/woman:
1. The human accepts that he/she is;
2. The human is in absentia.

A third way never happens. This is where the indictment says "the person, a man (or woman)..." and gives other description that can't be bypassed.

As soon as the man/woman makes it into court, if he/she doesn't state that the indictment person isn't him/her, he/she is in agreement that he/she is the person. And who will question it if he/she doesn't know that he/she can state that he/she isn't the person? THAT's the bottom line where the ignorance of the law lies.

[franky1]

badecker.. you are soooooo fooling yourself believing the freeman stuff

the whole 'capitalised name is not a human but a corporate entity/fiction' crap that you have ben spoonfed is wrong on so many levels

you have been fooled into thinking when someone is born a 'trust' is set up of a corporate fiction..
sorry but that aint how it works

your truly stuck in a decade old myth
you are not preaching something new or revolutionary.. your stuck spouting out a busted myth of a decade ago.. you just dont realise it yet

what you do not realise is that people can later in life set up a trust and put their assets into that trust and that way distance themselves from any repurcussions.
but pretending your name is a trust set up at birth. is literally as stupid as shouting out that your not human and you identify yourself as a helicopter

do you know that many smart people dont buy cars. they lease them. that way if they default any loan(credit card/mortgage/personal loan). a debt collector cannot knock on your door and take the car as a recovery value because the car does not belong to you. so its not your asset for them to take.

you trying to denounce your birthname is not going to stop your car thats registered to your name from being taken. however putting the cars registration in another name of a trust unrelated to you will protect you

you really have much to learn and about a decade of stuff to catch up on
atleast try to look passed the myth. stop just treating it as gospel and really try to do the research

[BADecker]

badecker.. you are soooooo fooling yourself believing the freeman stuff

the whole 'capitalised name is not a human but a corporate entity/fiction' crap that you have ben spoonfed is wrong on so many levels

you have been fooled into thinking when someone is born a 'trust' is set up of a corporate fiction..
sorry but that aint how it works

your truly stuck in a decade old myth
you are not preaching something new or revolutionary.. your stuck spouting out a busted myth of a decade ago.. you just dont realise it yet

what you do not realise is that people can later in life set up a trust and put their assets into that trust and that way distance themselves from any repurcussions.
but pretending your name is a trust set up at birth. is literally as stupid as shouting out that your not human and you identify yourself as a helicopter

do you know that many smart people dont buy cars. they lease them. that way if they default any loan(credit card/mortgage/personal loan). a debt collector cannot knock on your door and take the car as a recovery value because the car does not belong to you. so its not your asset for them to take.

you trying to denounce your birthname is not going to stop your car thats registered to your name from being taken. however putting the cars registration in another name of a trust unrelated to you will protect you

you really have much to learn and about a decade of stuff to catch up on
atleast try to look passed the myth. stop just treating it as gospel and really try to do the research

Your problem is that you are using freeman arguments. Where are you using them? They are the glasses that you are looking through. All you can see is freeman arguments wherever you look.

[franky1]

Your problem is that you are using freeman arguments. Where are you using them? They are the glasses that you are looking through. All you can see is freeman arguments wherever you look.

your the one linking freeman stuff all the time..
i never linked any freeman stuff.. im trying to help you to see the light at the end of the tunnel you dug.
you are about a decade out of date.

its time you do some proper research and realise what your even reading.
your links are from a community that have not done the real research and fooling people into how to act in court. but the reality is if people tried to do these things they would get in more trouble

take the previous post in this topic where i highlighted the 'no judge' thing. the case had nothing to do with 'no judge' and even then the jurisdiction argument of the case was foolish.
your points dont make a point because they lack the real research

you have ben told by many people now that your 'facts' have no credibility so just wake up and realise it
your beliefs of karl lentz and his crowd are sorely misplaced. all h can do is la la la over the bits he doesnt want people to know. when in reality the la la la bits are the actual things people should know.

just wake up and do some research

[BADecker]

Your problem is that you are using freeman arguments. Where are you using them? They are the glasses that you are looking through. All you can see is freeman arguments wherever you look.

your the one linking freeman stuff all the time..
i never linked any freeman stuff.. im trying to help you to see the light at the end of the tunnel you dug.
you are about a decade out of date.

its time you do some proper research and realise what your even reading.
your links are from a community that have not done the real research and fooling people into how to act in court. but the reality is if people tried to do these things they would get in more trouble

take the previous post in this topic where i highlighted the 'no judge' thing. the case had nothing to do with 'no judge' and even then the jurisdiction argument of the case was foolish.
your points dont make a point because they lack the real research

you have ben told by many people now that your 'facts' have no credibility so just wake up and realise it
your beliefs of karl lentz and his crowd are sorely misplaced. all h can do is la la la over the bits he doesnt want people to know. when in reality the la la la bits are the actual things people should know.

just wake up and do some research

You're the one who is calling what I show freeman stuff. The reason you do this is that you are completely misusing or misapplying it, just like the freeman.

[franky1]

You're the one who is calling what I show freeman stuff. The reason you do this is that you are completely misusing or misapplying it, just like the freeman.

you are quoting freeman stuff..

the freeman throw in the word 'common law' to make it sound/look like what they/you are saying is about real common law/constitutional law stuff. but the stuff your quoting is not real common law/constitutional/law stuff

your quoting the freeman misunderstanding stuff of commonlaw/constitutional stuff

you keep quoting it all the time. you just dont realise it.

even this topic shows you lack actually cheking the sources. you just copy and paste it and have the misbelief that its correct even without the research/checks/trying things out.

people have pointed out many times how you have misunderstood it all.

just take a couple steps back from the walls surrounding you that you think ar protecting you
and realise you are stuck in a hole
stop screaming at people that are telling you to get out of the hole
stop screaming at people that they need to jump in the hole with you
and just realise your surroundings.. your stuck in a hole and you really should learn to climb out of it

...
courts do have judges
courts do have jurisdictions
people can accuse other people and not be the victim
others can represent victims

trying to turn a claim against you into a defamation claim against the accuser is not an automatic win just by turning up and denying recognising the accuser
trying to counter sue your way out of the claims against you is not a automatic win against your accuser

you have ben following too many 'a la la' quotes that are not explaining what really happens in court.
stop acting like you are the sole person that has found the fountain of knowledge and you are uniquely the only one that knows what you know. actually see that your fountain contains toxic knowledge and many people have realised it decades

your freeman beliefs have been demythed. sorry but your freeman trend /fad is outdated
just try to do some research that does not involve the freeman troll community and your will start to see the where you have been getting it wrong

YOU are not quoting real common law/constitutional stuff.. YOUR quoting the freeman misinterpretation varient

[BADecker]

You're the one who is calling what I show freeman stuff. The reason you do this is that you are completely misusing or misapplying it, just like the freeman.

you are quoting freeman stuff..

the freeman throw in the word 'common law' to make it sound/look like what they/you are saying is about real common law/constitutional law stuff. but the stuff your quoting is not real common law/constitutional/law stuff

your quoting the freeman misunderstanding stuff of commonlaw/constitutional stuff

you keep quoting it all the time. you just dont realise it.

even this topic shows you lack actually cheking the sources. you just copy and paste it and have the misbelief that its correct even without the research/checks/trying things out.

people have pointed out many times how you have misunderstood it all.

just take a couple steps back from the walls surrounding you that you think ar protecting you
and realise you are stuck in a hole
stop screaming at people that are telling you to get out of the hole
stop screaming at people that they need to jump in the hole with you
and just realise your surroundings.. your stuck in a hole and you really should learn to climb out of it

...
courts do have judges
courts do have jurisdictions
people can accuse other people and not be the victim
others can represent victims

trying to turn a claim against you into a defamation claim against the accuser is not an automatic win just by turning up and denying recognising the accuser
trying to counter sue your way out of the claims against you is not a automatic win against your accuser

you have ben following too many 'a la la' quotes that are not explaining what really happens in court.
stop acting like you are the sole person that has found the fountain of knowledge and you are uniquely the only one that knows what you know. actually see that your fountain contains toxic knowledge and many people have realised it decades

your freeman beliefs have been demythed. sorry but your freeman trend /fad is outdated
just try to do some research that does not involve the freeman troll community and your will start to see the where you have been getting it wrong

YOU are not quoting real common law/constitutional stuff.. YOUR quoting the freeman misinterpretation varient

If you look closely, you will find that there are all kinds of legal references in the stuff... real legal references that are actually there.

The "freeman" you are talking about, is simply a misusing of the things that are used in law and court everyday.

Notice that there have been changes all over the judge-issued common law. If you shepardize court cases, you can see where many of the judgments have been changed by later court cases. Common law of the judges never remains the same.

If you want to focus on mistakes of the "freeman," that's okay. When freeman cases win, they are not called "freeman" any longer.

[franky1]

no point in you defending the freeman path you took. just realise you walked down the wrong path

oh and many people told you in this topic that your references are not refering to the points.. cant you even read.

time to wake up. many. MANY things you mad points about had irrelevant references
LEARN TO CHECK what your copying, when you say something like a empty thought script reader
LEARN TO RESEARCH what your copying, when you say something like a empty thought script reader
LEARN TO UNDERSTAND what your copying, when you say something like a empty thought script reader

in short think before you write

have a nice day

[BADecker]

no point in you defending the freeman path you took. just realise you walked down the wrong path

oh and many people told you in this topic that your references are not refering to the points.. cant you even read.

time to wake up. many. MANY things you mad points about had irrelevant references
LEARN TO CHECK what your copying, when you say something like a empty thought script reader
LEARN TO RESEARCH what your copying, when you say something like a empty thought script reader
LEARN TO UNDERSTAND what your copying, when you say something like a empty thought script reader

in short think before you write

have a nice day

No point in defending the fact that you don't seem to understand the difference between freeman mistakes and freeman successes.

As long as you talk mush, nobody will be able to understand, even though they read all day.

The thing that I did was to reference a website. So, all your talk at me is silliness.

[franky1]

your references are the silliness

even what you refer in other topics as a freeman success was not a freeman success
that karl lentz video where he 'la la la' was not a freeman success..
h actually la la la over the important bit he didnt want to talk about as it would reveal what actually happened

freeman successes are not about having legitimate claims dismissed due to lawful reasons but usually about wasting soo much time and causing so much disruption the hop is they drop the case or offer an out of court settlement just to stop the headache freemen cause

your whole rhetoric is for even small things, to go to court, cause disruption and demand things and counter claim and then threaten to sue and to demand a trial.. when the reality wont get you the result you want. but the pretense is to cause so much drama that the other side just gives up the fight.

sorry but in the real world if you punch someone, your not going to be always able to talk your way out of a fight or play the whimpy victim card to get away from getting hurt. you will still get smacked down

realise that.
understand that
actually research it

anyway the point of my calling you out on your crap is that you are not researched enough or even understand the reality of things enough to be trying to make topics about legal 'fact'
so either realise your limitations or research more to get passed your limited scope of knowledge and experience as it has ben very very evident that you pretend to follow all the freeman stuff but have not personally tried them in the real world. you just watch, listen,read, someone elses stuff. and instantly without checking. just believe what they said is real and just copy and paste it as if its your own experience/knowledge

sorry but you have been told many times on many topics by many people.
its time you took the advice and do the damned research

[BADecker]

^^^ Now you are calling American law the silliness.     

[franky1]

^^^ Now you are calling American law the silliness.    

your bullet points are not american law
they are a copy and paste of some dude you made loads of silly points(not law) and then what appears more likely just threw in some random cases.
your actions are the same as if told you cigarettes are healthy by cutting out a food label for vegetable soup and stick it on a pack of cigarettes.. but it dont make them healthy in reality


again the cases do not tally to the points. and many people have told you this. .. just accept it
this makes the pointd irrelevant which makes your topic irrelevant which makes your context silly and irrelevant

you really would be better off researching more or copy/pasting freeman stuff less
im trying to do you a favour here by trying to catch you up with stuff people knew a decade ago
if you want to take the slow route. see you in 10 years
or you can just wake up and realise your info is freeman misbeliefs

in short just stop copy/pasting freeman crap