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November 23, 2019, 11:00:02 AM
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Hi guys!

I know you like to invest. But investments in cryptocurrency projects are very risky and often fail. But what if we combine cryptocurrency investments with established companies? Such investments would retain profitability, but will be less risky.

Let me tell you a bit more briefly:
1. We work with large venture and investment funds.
2. Such funds sometimes offer good investment deals. For example, the purchase of shares in Airbnb, Palantir or Gett before the companies launches an IPO.
3. We can create a structure by which cryptocurrency investors can join these transactions.

Thus you will receive:
1. A promising investment in a stable company
2. Legal protection of your interests
3. The ability to invest in cryptocurrency
4. The opportunity to participate in famous, popular and cool deals


What do you think of this idea? (Please vote above)


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1. Why don't you buy shares directly? - If you are able to independently negotiate with the management of a private company and the size of your investment is above $10,000,000, you can invest. In other cases, you will need an intermediary.

2. Why don't you put your money directly into those investment funds? - When you invest in a fund, you do not invest in a separate investment transaction. The fund will invest in dozens of companies on your behalf. This is not always convenient and often investors will want a different approach. Therefore, I propose a deal-to-deal model in which you better control investment decisions.

3. Why do we need a shitcoin for everything? - I'm not talking about creating a separate cryptocurrency. I'm talking about the ability to accept payment in bitcoins. This will create additional difficulties for us, but it will be convenient for you. Payment in dollars is also possible, it is even preferred.


A little about trust:

Yes, I understand that I have given too little information, but I do not suggest you invest now. I want to understand how interesting this approach to investments is for the crypto community. If it is interesting, then we will invest significant resources to create a professional structure and give you transparency and legal protection. Then, we will return to the issue of trust again.

We do not want to spend these resources with the blind hope that you need it. We want you to understand that the market exists. If you want to invest, you should. Not necessarily with us, let it be someone else you trust.

Therefore, please imagine that a fund that you know and in which you are sure offers such a model.

Will you be involved?

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November 23, 2019, 11:45:47 AM
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1. Why don't you buy shares directly?
2. Why don't you put your money directly into those investment funds?
3. Why do we need a shitcoin for everything?
4. Why do we need to overcomplicate things everytime just so we can make room for cryptos and the blockchain when there is no need for it?

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November 23, 2019, 12:45:33 PM
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In essence what you are trying to do is simple create a fund where people pull their resources together and you with your partners that you working with would invest this in real companies such as the ones you have mentioned. The business model you have outlined is not any different from a mutual fund business where the firm pull resources together from individuals then invest it and from the returns, they take their own fees and distribute the returns.

However, in the case of the mutual funds business I mentioned above, there is no middlemen between them and the owners of the fund which you want to start in gap with. Again, a company that would pull funds together is not one in the shadows rather open and transparent with several compliance with the authority to ensure that investors funds are secure. All of this, you have not outlined for anyone to take your model serious.
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November 23, 2019, 06:23:54 PM
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So firstly let me ask this question: are you gonna create a token for that or what? Because creating a token for that wouldn't be anything special or different in my opinion. As it's been said earlier, there are many of such companies already running so maybe tokenizing it might create a difference which wouldn't be good as well. If you're trying to invent something new in the crypto investment world, please make it different lol. We don't have to tokenize everything. As said by user: stompix
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November 23, 2019, 09:12:42 PM
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1. Why don't you buy shares directly?
2. Why don't you put your money directly into those investment funds?
3. Why do we need a shitcoin for everything?
4. Why do we need to over complicate things every time just so we can make room for cryptos and the blockchain when there is no need for it?

I would love to hear answers on this questions also.  We need to simplify things. Not to add more middle mans to collect fees.
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November 24, 2019, 10:57:34 AM
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Well, nobody stops anyone from investing his/her cryptocoins in established traditional companies. 
I initially thought you were talking about merging traditional companies with some existing cryptocurrencies. Would have said it's note a good idea.
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November 24, 2019, 11:06:55 AM
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Hi guys!

I know you like to invest. But investments in cryptocurrency projects are very risky and often fail. But what if we combine cryptocurrency investments with established companies? Such investments would retain profitability, but will be less risky.

Let me tell you a bit more briefly:
1. We work with large venture and investment funds.
2. Such funds sometimes offer good investment deals. For example, the purchase of shares in Airbnb, Palantir or Gett before the companies launches an IPO.
3. We can create a structure by which cryptocurrency investors can join these transactions.
I'm not so sure about this, companies like AirBnb and Gett will rarely open other funding rounds, espeically if they are doing fairly well, and they can just ask their own network of investors for more money, do you have any proof you have connections to these countries?

Thus you will receive:
1. A promising investment in a stable company
2. Legal protection of your interests
3. The ability to invest in cryptocurrency
4. The opportunity to participate in famous, popular and cool deals
I hope it's legitimate, there is definitely a market for crypto-currency investments that are not just IEO/ICO/IPO's, and I think there needs to be a bigger focus on these sort of items, getting people to invest in real companies via crypto-currency.

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November 24, 2019, 12:36:19 PM
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~snip~

I see you're trying to convince us to invest with your company but I'm afraid you will get little interest from the community since most of them, in one way or another, had experienced different kinds of crypto frauds that you will find it very hard to convince them or believe in your ideas.

Moreover, your pitch will arouse suspicion since you didn't even include important information such as your company name, address, website, etc., and other important details about your company to prove that it isn't fictitious.

Now, if you really have a very good business model, then you may try to convince those traditional investors who are serious into investing because I feel you will get more likely to be disappointed pitching you ideas to the crypto-community.
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November 24, 2019, 01:04:28 PM
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I'm surprised there's been no option to buy shares with crypto. And that's conventional buying, not some kinky wee kludge. Enough gold places do it. You'd think at least one stock type place would take the plunge.

As for this, you either invest in crypto or invest elsewhere. I don't really see how the two can be combined if your endgame is to increase your crypto. You're going to be tied to dollar movements.
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The problem will be how to trust your platform to provide the benefits you are talking about.
If the shareholding companies are famous, I don't think they will make alliances like you mentioned because they are focusing on value assets and not shittokens, else the question is still on.

How a company can be stable is part of unsupported, legally recognized, unstable currencies. It's like gambling.

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For me, is much easier to convert crypto to fiat and after buy some stocks in tradtional way
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I'm surprised there's been no option to buy shares with crypto. And that's conventional buying, not some kinky wee kludge. Enough gold places do it. You'd think at least one stock type place would take the plunge.

As for this, you either invest in crypto or invest elsewhere. I don't really see how the two can be combined if your endgame is to increase your crypto. You're going to be tied to dollar movements.

Everything stock related is tightly regulated, so it wouldn't be easy to open a new stock exchange that accepts crypto, or even just offer provide broker services for crypto. Just like the SEC is still suspicious of crypto, all other regulators also view it as too risky to allow it. And maybe there's actually not a lot of demand for it, as people generally threat crypto as an investment rather than money.

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If it is a fiat deal that we are doing but the transaction is crypto and thats the only method we use crypto in I would be very interested.
If the investment is in crypto and there are tokens involved of the company then I wouldn't be interested at all. I would love to buy shares of a company using crypto and get paid in crypto when I sell those shares, however if a company creates their own token that "represents" themselves but gives no dividends or anything then no thanks.

I have been looking for a company that accepts worldwide crypto payments for buying shares and I wanted to invest into multiple companies, even the known ones are enough with crypto all around the world but there is no company like that, you need to buy the shares using fiat and I am not willing to do that.

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Everything stock related is tightly regulated, so it wouldn't be easy to open a new stock exchange that accepts crypto, or even just offer provide broker services for crypto. Just like the SEC is still suspicious of crypto, all other regulators also view it as too risky to allow it. And maybe there's actually not a lot of demand for it, as people generally threat crypto as an investment rather than money.

If you can buy a razor wire dildo with BTC there's no reason why you can't buy a stock. No broker that wanted a quiet life would get the two tangled up. Straightforward buying would attract plenty of custom.
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It makes sense why you need to go through a middleman, no company that is already up and running and worth their money is going to accept a measly 10,000 investment from a single person, and they aren't going to bother dealing with you, investors will require to make their own groups, where they are able to invest 10 or so millions of dollars, and then that's something worth while for the company.

I'm assuming OP is offering a service where he/she has already found the investors and now they are also offering the ability to use crypto-currencies to purchase an investment in the companies, which would work if they don't try and push a new coin/ICO down the investor's throats.

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So in essence this is like offering many cryptocurrency holders an opportunity to use their digital assets to purchase on stocks of established (and I assumed must be earning) projects instead of getting into new projects or start-ups still in the crowdfunding process (like the usual IEOs, ICOs and STOs popular in our industry). Now, may I ask if the cryptocurrency will be converted into the current value? Because if that is the case so there is really no big difference between what you are offering and me converting my cryptocurrency into cold cash and then buying stocks from the possible companies you guys are targeting, except that instead of me buying individually I am part of a group which is actually similar to the idea behind the mutual funds.
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I'm surprised there's been no option to buy shares with crypto. And that's conventional buying, not some kinky wee kludge. Enough gold places do it. You'd think at least one stock type place would take the plunge.

As for this, you either invest in crypto or invest elsewhere. I don't really see how the two can be combined if your endgame is to increase your crypto. You're going to be tied to dollar movements.

Everything stock related is tightly regulated, so it wouldn't be easy to open a new stock exchange that accepts crypto, or even just offer provide broker services for crypto. Just like the SEC is still suspicious of crypto, all other regulators also view it as too risky to allow it. And maybe there's actually not a lot of demand for it, as people generally threat crypto as an investment rather than money.
Better would be to not mix both types. Both markets hold opposite nature. Stocks are all about regulations whereas crypto currencies are decentralized in nature and regulation are thousand centuries apart. The exchange should be either crypto-only like Binance that offers where traders only trade in tokens and crypto currencies. At present, with no mainstreaming, crypto are best used as investment.
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November 25, 2019, 06:40:34 PM
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Thanks for your answers and questions!

So, I am answering your questions too


FAQ


1. Why don't you buy shares directly? - If you are able to independently negotiate with the management of a private company and the size of your investment is above $10,000,000, you can invest. In other cases, you will need an intermediary.


2. Why don't you put your money directly into those investment funds? - When you invest in a fund, you do not invest in a separate investment transaction. The fund will invest in dozens of companies on your behalf. This is not always convenient and often investors will want a different approach. Therefore, I propose a deal-to-deal model in which you better control investment decisions.


3. Why do we need a shitcoin for everything? - I'm not talking about creating a separate cryptocurrency. I'm talking about the ability to accept payment in bitcoins. This will create additional difficulties for us, but it will be convenient for you. Payment in dollars is also possible, it is even preferred.



A little about trust:

Yes, I understand that I have given too little information, but I do not suggest you invest now. I want to understand how interesting this approach to investments is for the crypto community. If it is interesting, then we will invest significant resources to create a professional structure and give you transparency and legal protection. Then, we will return to the issue of trust again.

We do not want to spend these resources with the blind hope that you need it. We want you to understand that the market exists. If you want to invest, you should. Not necessarily with us, let it be someone else you trust.

Therefore, please imagine that a fund that you know and in which you are sure offers such a model.

Will you be involved?

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Cryptocurrency investments with established companies means centralized crypto. The stock market I think is going to be migrating to blockchain but this is still not necessary since the whole operation of the companies being an entity makes them centralize.

I'd probably buy shares but will depend to the kind of privileges the company gives, if consensus includes me having the right to decide what to do, i'd be part of it.


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