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November 25, 2019, 06:21:37 PM
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This girl leaves school to start his fight against global warming, but i do not agree with her way to fight. I think the right way to fight against big things like this is with a big preparation in school and not with ignorance.

I have read a lot about the topic and there are lot of extremist attacking or deffending this girl, so, what are your thoughts?

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November 25, 2019, 07:17:39 PM
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When it comes to causes, timing is everything.  She truly believes in her cause and that there is already sufficient data but world leaders are not acting on it except with rhetoric.  Why should she waste 4 years in school if the time to act is now?
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When it comes to causes, timing is everything.  She truly believes in her cause and that there is already sufficient data but world leaders are not acting on it except with rhetoric.  Why should she waste 4 years in school if the time to act is now?


How did a 16-year old girl get to speak at the UN?
What knowledge can she possibly possess in order to change world politics?

Do we want a 16-year old to guide the worlds deciosions?
Is this just a kid to target emotions in order to influence people for your agenda or is it a climate change expert who read through the literature?

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My opinion is terrible.
Someone is using this girl for his interest.

 
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I'm very impressed with her, and I think some of the criticism is outright appalling, particularly the denigration from the right wing press.
She's still a child, but the climate change movement needed a figurehead from the younger generation, a figurehead from the generation who will inherit the world that we have left them. Imagine how a random 16yo might perform in that role, and then look at how GT behaves. Intelligent, informed, outspoken when she needs to be outspoken, and utterly unafraid.
She should be lauded.

Climate change deniers are bad enough, but the extreme cases who are making some really awful and personal attacks against a child are fucking vermin. It's just ad hominem bullshit.  Not suggesting anyone on here is doing that, btw.

Those who would criticise her for not being an expert, qualified climate-change scientist are I suspect the same people who would criticise those scientists on the global-warming-is-a-hoax thread. Because fuck-anyone-who-provides-evidence-for-climate-change, right?

Sorry for ranting. I've just had enough on other threads of being the lone voice of sanity.  Climate change is real, and is happening right now. GT is the perfect figurehead.

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I feel sorry for her because she is being used by those same who have brainwashed her into her opinion on global warming in the first place..
It's a damn shame..
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Greta made a speech at 'climate action'

her message
'i am watching you'
says 'people stolen her childhood'
talks about 'suffering' 'dying'
mentions 'how dare you' several times

but ...
what are her solutions
what ACTIONS does she propose
her solution is...
to never forgive them
to draw a line

...
hmm not much of a proposal

her speech lacked context, just general finger pointing and blame

(P.S im really highly involved in environmental stuff)

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She's so cute. But if she keeps on gritting her teeth like that, she'll wind up with a mouthful of chipped-off fangs. Of course, that might fit her better.

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She's so cute. But if she keeps on gritting her teeth like that, she'll wind up with a mouthful of chipped-off fangs. Of course, that might fit her better.

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I think on this we're in agreement dude lol. I'm not really sure if it's staged or not but one thing you can give the girl is she's feisty. Though it's probably better if she'd stay in school. The big people she's referring to are likely not even taking this seriously.

Whether climate change is real or not, the big companies  and governments don't care and won't care unless they're directly being affected by what's happening.

 
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Strong warnings about global warming make that justified, but seeing Greta's reaction like that, I still see the maturity of her behavior is still very emotional, and the fact that she is immature makes it a joke of extremists. not a figure like her who should be like that. Greta looks like a favorite child who is only taught to babble (in that context)

 
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As the Foo fighter says, Just another product of today. I'm not a climate change denier and I believe everyone should work to slow down climate change.
But she's being portrayed as a messiah of climate activist while she is just a TRP material for the media. There are millions of people that are actually working to protect nature and fight against climate change but they never comes into such spotlight as this kid who's words are scripted by some grown up does.
It's like watching the movie.

 
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My opinion is generally positive because she is very smart, however I don't believe she fully understands the picture of climate change. Neither do I understand the full picture,
however things are not as bad as they are shown in the mass media. I'd like to let you know that before industrial revolution we have been through different periods of climate
change, from very very cold and heavy snows to very very warm. You should really learn about the Little Ice Age which is a period between about 1300 and 1870. In 1100 it
was as hot as it was post 1900 and we had no industrialization.

Keep in mind there are some problems in the world: plastic, pollution, etc. which we must be aware of and minimize their risks/impacts.

However as my friend above states, how did a 16 year old girl get to speak at the UN if not sent by someone for their own interests? Nevertheless I really appreciate her success.



How did a 16-year old girl get to speak at the UN?
What knowledge can she possibly possess in order to change world politics?

Do we want a 16-year old to guide the worlds deciosions?
Is this just a kid to target emotions in order to influence people for your agenda or is it a climate change expert who read through the literature?


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November 26, 2019, 01:20:05 PM
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Greta made a speech at 'climate action'

her message
'i am watching you'
says 'people stolen her childhood'
talks about 'suffering' 'dying'
mentions 'how dare you' several times

Yeah, she's the scare bitch of climate, put in place by the consensus of a few.
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First and foremost,  I really admire her for her stance against global warming and I believe she deserves to fight for her future because it's their generation who are going to end paying the price for what we are currently doing. But as they protest they shouldn't just stop living their lives and commit wholeheartedly to this crusade even though it's a righteous cause.

 
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I believe in global warming and I think it's a very important problem, so I partly admire her. on the other hand she's being hypocrite when sailing across the ocean with the whole crew that afterwards flies home by plane. She's good, but she's being used, I guess
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This is an entirely fabricated media story, exploiting the sincere passion of an unfortunate girl, for reasons that most of the people would not even suspect. Come on, guys, in France you have had tens of thousands of people demostrating on the streets for over one year - tens of which got even killed by police - and they did not get even a fraction of Greta's media coverage. You will understand what's really at stake in this media driven story when it will be already too late.

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Why should she waste 4 years in school if the time to act is now?
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Because the way to act isn't talking, only talking she will not stop the global warming, but with science she can contribute to stopping global warming, if she focus in develope a car who works with Hydrogen that will be a nice start, cars who send away water instead of C02 would be a nice help for the climate. But she will not understand how electrolysis to get the Hydrogen from the water works, so, how can she help this world with ignorance?

My point is, we need smart people to find a solution, and not a rage speaker who will just make us feel bad but will not help us to find a solution.

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she is being used. her words push all the significant buttons that someone of her age cant articulate but a well trained speach writer can

reminds me of justin beiber, who got some initial viral fame from a small youtube video decades ago, then suddenly songwriters and producers swooped in to mold his image and write what he should sing and wear and organise tours.

i can understand the anger that she is doing it in the hopes for her voice to be heard. but her words do not get to the point. its just used as an emotional scene to get a message that a kid is getting emotional. but still doesnt get to the practical solutions

global warming and climate change are not bad things. they happen all the time. the global temperatures are never and will never be a fixed number EVER.

the message is missing critical things like the real cause for human assisted climate change. and the truth is human assisted 'carbon' atmosphere is only 0.01% of the problem.
most of the climate change is due to land changing from being natures 'sponge' absorbing water and allowing evaporation, which is due to becoming de-forested, concreted/asphalted land or dug down to bare rock. preventing the planets normal 'water cycle' from doing its natural purpose of evaporation by a bigger margin(0.5 in last 30 years) than carbon (0.01% in 150 years)

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Why should she waste 4 years in school if the time to act is now?
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Because the way to act isn't talking, only talking she will not stop the global warming, but with science she can contribute to stopping global warming, if she focus in develope a car who works with Hydrogen that will be a nice start, cars who send away water instead of C02 would be a nice help for the climate. But she will not understand how electrolysis to get the Hydrogen from the water works, so, how can she help this world with ignorance?

My point is, we need smart people to find a solution, and not a rage speaker who will just make us feel bad but will not help us to find a solution.

 She is only bringing publicity to the cause.  Her sole purpose is to hold some feet to the fire for promises made to reduce carbon emissions.  She may not be as intelligent as you think and there are already many, many, many people working on solutions - she just wants leaders to honour their commitments.   She ain't gonna learn charisma, passion and civil disobedience in public school.  Fortunately she already possesses those traits.  The last thing this world needs is more hydrogen tech and anyway, water vapour is a much better greenhouse gas than CO2.
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the message is missing critical things like the real cause for human assisted climate change. and the truth is human assisted 'carbon' atmosphere is only 0.01% of the problem.

The CO2 scare is a wealth redistribution scam and a centralization of political power scam..

All of the good well meaning environmentalists are wasting their efforts worrying about CO2 while their is real pollution out there to be taken care of..

What needs to be stopped?
This?


This?


Or this? (Oh No! CO2!!)





BTW Newsflash.. This climate changes...





Therefore, this poor child is being used and in 10 or 20 years she will have realized this and be embarrassed she was shilling for this scam..




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I really think she is sincere on what she believe and fighting for but feel bad for her because she is being used to push an agenda that she doesn't know about or doesn't understand.
I believe she can make a change with the right people behind her. but right now she is a puppet being used by people who want power.

 
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