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November 26, 2019, 11:36:37 AM
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https://www.blockchain.com/cs/btc/tx/3939631f8e50949aec3ea1c41f1ef8f695b05e868d892249b9f12d551a8b87f2

Can someone mine it for lulz

I will tip after getting my few hundred dollars worth.
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November 26, 2019, 12:20:47 PM
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https://www.blockchain.com/cs/btc/tx/3939631f8e50949aec3ea1c41f1ef8f695b05e868d892249b9f12d551a8b87f2

Can someone mine it for lulz

I will tip after getting my few hundred dollars worth.

You can try this free bitcoin transaction accelerator. You can donate something after he is done. He will accelerate your transaction
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034315.0

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November 26, 2019, 01:34:30 PM
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Ty.
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November 26, 2019, 01:46:08 PM
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You can try this free bitcoin transaction accelerator. You can donate something after he is done. He will accelerate your transaction
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034315.0
Who said this guy can accelerate transactions? Is he a known miner, works for a pool or something like this (which I missed)? Or you're simple relying on the fact that he says he accelerates transactions? Because in this case, he is very likely lying and trying to lure people to tip him for natural network confirmations which don't have anything to do with him.

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November 26, 2019, 02:17:54 PM
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with a fee Fee: 2.86 sat/B how many hours it may take? So far 24 plus hrs.
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November 26, 2019, 02:30:30 PM
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with a fee Fee: 2.86 sat/B how many hours it may take? So far 24 plus hrs.

It could easily take another 24 hours, mainly so with how one large price swing can add another +10,000 unconfirmed transactions as people move funds back and forth.

This is a useful site to look at what the going fee/byte rates are; https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#0,24h

On that site you can see that your fee is peanuts compared to what people are paying to get their transaction confirmed in the next couple of blocks.

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November 26, 2019, 02:39:45 PM
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Sorry to see you're stuck.

In your case, there are only a couple things you can really do:
  • Wait... Hope that sooner or later, there will be some space in a block for 2.86 sat/byte transactions. Keep rebroadcasting the tx so it doesn't get pruned from the mempool
  • Do a CPFP
  • To bad the sender didn't opt in RBF... There is a very small chance he can doublespend the unspent output used as an input for your stuck transaction to re-fund your address
  • Pay a miner to include your transaction into a block

A few remarks:
1) when i say pay a miner, i mean pay a miner with sufficient (provable) hashpower. Don't pay a hobbyminer with a couple ASIC's, he doesn't have the hashrate to solve a block while solo mining, so he doesn't have the resources to help you. I've heared good things about https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

2) don't expect people to do this for free, or to access the forum with a new account and make promises to pay AFTER the transaction has been included into a block... Mining is serious business, people that include transactions make actual money from the fees. The odds of finding somebody that will do this for free (or getting payed after the transaction has been included) are really small.

If this was my transaction, i'd probably do a CPFP if i needed the funds in a short timeframe or if i didn't trust the sender. If i trusted the sender, and i wasn't in a hurry, i'd just wait it out (and keep rebroadcasting the raw, signed tx)

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November 26, 2019, 02:48:48 PM
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Keep rebroadcasting the raw, signed tx how?

sender is Bitstamp.
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November 26, 2019, 02:50:20 PM
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Keep rebroadcasting the raw, signed tx how?

sender is Bitstamp.

here's your raw transaction
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Every couple of days (untill your tx is confirmed), you can use an online service like this one:
https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/pushtx/
to push the raw transaction to blockcypher's nodes... If your transaction was pruned from their mempool, pushing it will re-insert it into their mempool and make their node(s) rebroadcast the transaction to the other nodes they are connected to.

It's sad to see bitstamp is cheaping out on fees and not creating opt-in rbf tx's...

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November 26, 2019, 03:10:02 PM
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https://mempool.space/tx/3939631f8e50949aec3ea1c41f1ef8f695b05e868d892249b9f12d551a8b87f2

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November 26, 2019, 04:08:53 PM
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I successfully submitted your transaction to the viabtc mining pool's transaction accelerator.

https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

Viabtc should confirm your transaction when it mines its next block.

You can see here the viabtc pool's last block was mined about an hour ago.

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer
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November 26, 2019, 06:52:07 PM
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I successfully submitted your transaction to the viabtc mining pool's transaction accelerator.

https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

Viabtc should confirm your transaction when it mines its next block.

You can see here the viabtc pool's last block was mined about an hour ago.

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer

Thanks.
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November 26, 2019, 07:06:52 PM
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I successfully submitted your transaction to the viabtc mining pool's transaction accelerator.

https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/
ViaBTC's free transaction accelerator doesn't accept transactions with less than 10 sat/byte fee. So your claim seems unlikely.

If this was my transaction, i'd probably do a CPFP if i needed the funds in a short timeframe or if i didn't trust the sender. If i trusted the sender, and i wasn't in a hurry, i'd just wait it out (and keep rebroadcasting the raw, signed tx)
This is the way to go, but it may depend on your wallet whether or not you can spend an unconfirmed transaction already.
If you can: the transaction is 5565 bytes, your new transaction will only add a few bytes. To get it to confirm within a few hours, you'll need to use roughly 0.001 BTC in fees. If you're willing to spend that, you'll also help confirm a couple dozen other withdrawals in the same transaction.



Considering how much exchanges usually charge for withdrawals, I'm curious why Bitstamp uses such a low fee (0.00015933BTC for 5565 bytes)!

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Tx confirmed   Smiley

Considering how much exchanges usually charge for withdrawals, I'm curious why Bitstamp uses such a low fee (0.00015933BTC for 5565 bytes)!

We have had an extended chat with Bitstamp including a person from a complains department. It was 100% stonewalling. Thank you for your patience, we will check, etc.


https://www.bitstamp.net/fee-schedule/#bitcoin

Withdrawal 0.0005 BTC. There were 14 inputs which seems to mean each input is a transaction from a wallet. That makes fee received 0.007BTC or 49,70 usd approx.

Bitstamp have paid 1usd plus.  Shocked Angry

And it was sent to localbitcoins - no way to spend 0 confirms txt unless localbitcoin support agrees which would of taken ages.

I think I will contact fellow bistamp customers and we may collect money for a press article to let people know. Will it prompt Bitstamp to change?




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November 27, 2019, 06:50:36 AM
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I think I will contact fellow bistamp customers and we may collect money for a press article to let people know. Will it prompt Bitstamp to change?

I'm glad to hear your issue was solved without having to pay a mining pool Smiley
As for gaining attention in order for bitstamp to change: well, you could collect money for a press article, or you could start an investigation by yourself and publish the results on bitcointalk. This forum has a really good pagerank. If you publish something on here, and your thread gains traction, it'll probably end up in the top search results in no-time.

I'd probably start by finding out the hot wallets of bitstamp. Once i found those, i'd monitor them for future and past transactions and map the fee they used to the optimal fee at that moment in time, and the fee they ask their customers for a withdrawal.
If the 100 latest withdrawal transactions all underpay, and you can prove this without a shadow of a doubt, your publication on bitcointalk might make a huge difference in the way they handle customers (or maybe they just won't care, they might think they're to big to fail and don't care about negative stories leaking out)

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I successfully submitted your transaction to the viabtc mining pool's transaction accelerator.

https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/
ViaBTC's free transaction accelerator doesn't accept transactions with less than 10 sat/byte fee. So your claim seems unlikely.



Yes you are right, I was using my phone's browser and couldn't see the transaction rejection warning. A tiny box briefly flashed up with something green written in it, and I thought that was a transaction acceptance message.

I have since tried the accelerator through a computer browser and can see transaction rejection warnings for low fees.

The transaction was included in block 605507 which was mined by Poolin, so viabtc didn't accelerate it.
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