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November 28, 2019, 11:14:47 PM
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Is there anyone here who tried to experiment in online gambling sites with a pen and paper?

Here's the idea, to determine the percentage of winning, I always think of doing an experiment where I would bet in an online gambling site then each bet will be written to the paper. A total of 10 bets per day in a 1-week duration and each bet will be written and will be recorded depending if the bet is winning or losing. Then conduct an analysis of the percentage of winnings to determine if there are some tricks we could find with these experiments in different gambling sites.

If there is someone who already does this, could you please share the outcome? At what Bet you usually win? and what platform could that technique be applicable?

You mean putting down everything and note your win/lost %?

In the beginning yes, I did like that but I would say it's tiring, Lol. As a gambler you don't need this experiment I would say. At the end of the end it boils down as how you managed and if you have money to bet and continue with your gambling habits, just saying.
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November 29, 2019, 12:51:18 AM
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No, I don't do that because I think that can attract me always to play gambling. I will curious about what I will get from gambling. And if somehow, I win or lose, I will still play for more, and I am afraid of being addicted in a long time. Besides that, I don't know what kind of analysis I should do with the experiment. But if you would like to try for your experiment, then I think you can share to us, so we know what the result is.

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November 29, 2019, 01:29:21 AM
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If there is someone who already does this, could you please share the outcome? At what Bet you usually win? and what platform could that technique be applicable?
When it regards to the luck based games like card games or roulette etc, its a complete waste of time because you don't need it. At this day if there are somebody who are doing this, they are using spreadsheet instead of pen and paper but it will be useless because you can't get any conclusion if you do it.

When it regards to sports betting, probably you can conclude if you tally it on the spreadsheet but it is still a waste of time because it is gambling. You win and you lose and that's it Cheesy.

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November 29, 2019, 01:32:39 AM
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No, I don't do that because I think that can attract me always to play gambling. I will curious about what I will get from gambling. And if somehow, I win or lose, I will still play for more, and I am afraid of being addicted in a long time. Besides that, I don't know what kind of analysis I should do with the experiment. But if you would like to try for your experiment, then I think you can share to us, so we know what the result is.
It's like playing with the odds of both teams. There are many things to be considered if you are getting the percentage of winning a possible winning team, Analyzing the both team players, the settings, the coach and other factors that affect each game. It is purely estimated and on how you trust the team you are analyzing. Sometimes players are choking with their game so it's hard to predict every game. Sometimes I am basing on the percentage of others bet when a gambling site computes the odds.
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November 29, 2019, 01:41:45 AM
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If there is someone who already does this, could you please share the outcome? At what Bet you usually win? and what platform could that technique be applicable?
When it regards to the luck based games like card games or roulette etc, its a complete waste of time because you don't need it. At this day if there are somebody who are doing this, they are using spreadsheet instead of pen and paper but it will be useless because you can't get any conclusion if you do it.

When it regards to sports betting, probably you can conclude if you tally it on the spreadsheet but it is still a waste of time because it is gambling. You win and you lose and that's it Cheesy.

Meaning to say that you are going to risk and consider your faith when betting? It is just quite better if we could have a basis of betting. Because I've read here before that there are people who bet only once per day because they said its effective, and the chances of winning is quite higher. In this regard, if there are holes in the patterns of winning then we could take advantage of it.
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November 29, 2019, 01:43:46 AM
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Is there anyone here who tried to experiment in online gambling sites with a pen and paper?

Here's the idea, to determine the percentage of winning, I always think of doing an experiment where I would bet in an online gambling site then each bet will be written to the paper. A total of 10 bets per day in a 1-week duration and each bet will be written and will be recorded depending if the bet is winning or losing. Then conduct an analysis of the percentage of winnings to determine if there are some tricks we could find with these experiments in different gambling sites.

If there is someone who already does this, could you please share the outcome? At what Bet you usually win? and what platform could that technique be applicable?

Listen, it is good to analyze your game and chances of winning at any point of gambling, I see it as strategizing. This is more needed to control games and personal emotions. But you know it is only applicable to some type of Games like predictions. Not those games you play by yourself. I don't know how that can guarantee your winning though, because everyone appears for betting with the mind of winning by any strategy.
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November 29, 2019, 01:49:04 AM
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Meaning to say that you are going to risk and consider your faith when betting? It is just quite better if we could have a basis of betting. Because I've read here before that there are people who bet only once per day because they said its effective, and the chances of winning is quite higher. In this regard, if there are holes in the patterns of winning then we could take advantage of it.

There are no patterns like that. In luck-based games there is nothing you can do to change the outcome. In skill-based games you shouldn't be looking for patterns but to develop your skills.
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November 29, 2019, 03:23:05 AM
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It's a matter of probability.

You can't easily compute or solve during the game 'cause it's very confusing. You need a massive focus on the game so you can manage to compute while thinking about the next possible strategy to win. There are people who can do that, the probability is easy if you knew and well-known the percentage of each possibility.

But at some point, the skill set is the one that really matters. It will define how you'll build your strategy.
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November 29, 2019, 04:03:14 AM
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It's a matter of probability.

You can't easily compute or solve during the game 'cause it's very confusing. You need a massive focus on the game so you can manage to compute while thinking about the next possible strategy to win. There are people who can do that, the probability is easy if you knew and well-known the percentage of each possibility.

But at some point, the skill set is the one that really matters. It will define how you'll build your strategy.
I tried to journal all of my bets for me to determine the percentage of winning. The results are always different so I can say that doing it is just waste of time because I get inaccurate data. There is no pattern in gambling, it is just based on skills and how you mange your emotions. It is a game of probability that requiring forecasting skills.
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November 29, 2019, 06:09:35 AM
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Meaning to say that you are going to risk and consider your faith when betting? It is just quite better if we could have a basis of betting. Because I've read here before that there are people who bet only once per day because they said its effective, and the chances of winning is quite higher. In this regard, if there are holes in the patterns of winning then we could take advantage of it.

There are no patterns like that. In luck-based games there is nothing you can do to change the outcome. In skill-based games you shouldn't be looking for patterns but to develop your skills.
i think i get what Op means,its just that the computer might not consider a bettors threat to the site(though i am not sure about this and my only thoughts involve) so betting once a day may save you from being a loser.there was a game when i was young in our local when the horse race is being played in just a small screen and there is a one person that betting only for few times a day but he was lucky to win big mostly.i know this is a luck but i have a doubt that there is behind the winning.









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November 29, 2019, 06:44:58 AM
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I never done it before because lost and win as usual things in gambling then i have simple thought that if i lost it not more than just unlucky and correct me if i'm wrong but percentages of winning from gambling cannot determined from previous losses and every bets will have different results depend on the odds you were bets and the luck you have so whatever you calculate the method to avoid lost but eventually it will determined how much luck do you have during gambling

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November 29, 2019, 07:11:50 AM
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Is there anyone here who tried to experiment in online gambling sites with a pen and paper?

Here's the idea, to determine the percentage of winning, I always think of doing an experiment where I would bet in an online gambling site then each bet will be written to the paper. A total of 10 bets per day in a 1-week duration and each bet will be written and will be recorded depending if the bet is winning or losing. Then conduct an analysis of the percentage of winnings to determine if there are some tricks we could find with these experiments in different gambling sites.

If there is someone who already does this, could you please share the outcome? At what Bet you usually win? and what platform could that technique be applicable?

it is pointless(at least for me) to determine the percentage of your winning in gambling. I know that some people get some satisfaction knowing that they have more wins than
losses but even if the percentage of your winning is positive doesn't mean that your profit is also positive. and also, I'd rather know the percentage of my profit than knowing
the percentage of winnings.

Aren't you suppose to analyze before you place a bet? Check the team, check the odds, place a bet. I also think it would be pointless to write the results and analyze them later on. The circumstances changes from game to game and your strategy will keep on changing too.


only if the OP is specifically talking about sports betting but he is probably not.




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but even if the percentage of your winning is positive doesn't mean that your profit is also positive

You made an Interesting point... I guess that is what Op want to know. He probably wants to know if all his in one-week total bets is profitable in the end.
Like you said, he should be looking at profitability rather winning?  If his total win is 60%, it doesn't guarantee profit, I guess?
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November 29, 2019, 07:12:41 AM
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I never done it before because lost and win as usual things in gambling then i have simple thought that if i lost it not more than just unlucky and correct me if i'm wrong but percentages of winning from gambling cannot determined from previous losses and every bets will have different results depend on the odds you were bets and the luck you have so whatever you calculate the method to avoid lost but eventually it will determined how much luck do you have during gambling

In playing gambling not, just luck needed, you must know to things how to play gambling; sometimes, this is the reason and the techniques why do the professional gamblers always won on their game. The primary methods in gambling are researching how you will win the game in every situation, not all the time you will succeed better to take down all the mistakes and what happens in the game. All data is essential — the way to earn more skills by adapting the styles of the other player too.

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November 29, 2019, 07:26:41 AM
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My response will be pointing to sports betting;
Yeah, more likely you can analyze if the gambling you bet was on sports chances are you can analyze your bets or even deeper by analyzing the team, the players and much more. Better if you stick on the game of luck like dice, roulette etc, these kinds of games aren't that much of a hassle to analyze and in regards to the pen and paper it is a hassle as well there are many applications that can do it automatically if you know how to use them instead of writing it manually.

All data is essential — the way to earn more skills by adapting the styles of the other player too.
There are gambling that requires data and a better representation of it is you have an advantage over other bettors.
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November 29, 2019, 08:13:05 AM
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Usually when I play games 50%, and when I lose several times in a row, I have an assumption that the next 3 will have to come.
And one thing I thought when one thought was a scam, I watched where the smaller stakes were to play, it wasn't a bad idea to try.
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November 29, 2019, 08:15:35 AM
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Is there anyone here who tried to experiment in online gambling sites with a pen and paper?
This days you really do not need pen and paper. You can do it easily with spreadsheet. I have done if long time ago and it's waste of time LOL
You win, you lose and that is gambling.
and this is what reality means,gambling means to GAMBLE so there is no specific outcome not unless the Luck will favors you every time.
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If there is someone who already does this, could you please share the outcome? At what Bet you usually win? and what platform could that technique be applicable?
I really do not think someone else's statistic is going to help you. Everyone has their own style of betting and risk taking. When I did it, I had some personal info so even if I want I would not like to share it with anyone else.

Bottom line is that I had a lose at the end but not much.
lucky that you did not lose that much because some did same risk but in the end they lose too much(maybe because there is an intention to earn higher so the greed covers the whole thing and end up losing of course.

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November 29, 2019, 08:17:07 AM
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Many of us don’t do it but I think is a very good idea to keep a full balance of how much we win or lose because if we look at our spreadsheet every week or so we may see that we are losing a lot of money for example and this may be a reason for us to stop.If we are winning of course will continue.

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November 29, 2019, 08:23:48 AM
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Many of us don’t do it but I think is a very good idea to keep a full balance of how much we win or lose because if we look at our spreadsheet every week or so we may see that we are losing a lot of money for example and this may be a reason for us to stop.If we are winning of course will continue.

so if you knew that you are loosing why would you still keep a full balance  ?  winning does not win that you can continue but its better if you set a goal because gambling cant provide you a long term win  .  your winnings will decay overtime and will be replace by losses if you dont stop asap  . same as when you are loosing you should also be contented with it and call it a day  , maybe your just too unlucky that time  . i never done experimenting related to gambling but i do still win of course  .
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November 29, 2019, 08:38:46 AM
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Many of us don’t do it but I think is a very good idea to keep a full balance of how much we win or lose because if we look at our spreadsheet every week or so we may see that we are losing a lot of money for example and this may be a reason for us to stop.If we are winning of course will continue.

so if you knew that you are loosing why would you still keep a full balance  ?  winning does not win that you can continue but its better if you set a goal because gambling cant provide you a long term win  .  your winnings will decay overtime and will be replace by losses if you dont stop asap  . same as when you are loosing you should also be contented with it and call it a day  , maybe your just too unlucky that time  . i never done experimenting related to gambling but i do still win of course  .

The term “full balance” here has a meaning to keep track of everything you do in your gambling activity and is not related to money or liquid balance.

If we continue to win we keep playing until we see big loses and that should make us think deeper and stop.That was the meaning,I know we can never win in the long term otherwise the casinos wouldn’t exist in the first place.

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November 29, 2019, 08:59:32 AM
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If you are in a betting game probably you need to write first and think to analyze the possible result but this not give you an accurate result in the next bet. That's why I rarely gamble in betting because it needs too much analyzation. I prefer dice, roulette, poker and in a lottery because they are all based on the luck game. Determining the percentage of winning doesn't necessary if you gamble just for fun, it may cause headache for sure.
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