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November 28, 2019, 07:56:03 PM
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The Bakkt bitcoin futures contracts peaked to a new high, signaling strong institutional interest in BTC, risk exposure, affinity in ‘physically’ acquiring the underlying asset. What do you think guys?

https://bitcoinist.com/bakkt-bitcoin-futures-trading-volumes-new-record/
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November 29, 2019, 02:26:13 AM
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They started off slow, but seem to be getting some momentum going. I hope they keep it up!

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November 29, 2019, 02:37:25 AM
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affinity in ‘physically’ acquiring the underlying asset. What do you think guys?
I don't think that part is true, because the whole idea behind Bakkt is that institutional investors can get exposure to bitcoin without having to actually own it.  That's the entire point of futures.  People who trade oil futures don't want to actually own a million barrels of oil--they just want to speculate on the price without taking delivery of it.  Same thing with bitcoin.  Those Bakkt traders could certainly buy bitcoin and hold it in a wallet or on an exchange like Coinbase if they so chose.  That isn't what Bakkt offers them.

I'm not sure that 3151BTC was actually purchased, either.  Futures and options might just as well be bets that bitcoin will decrease in value, almost like selling it short.  I wouldn't assume that the trading volume there represents bitcoin buying in any way, shape, or form unless that's what's explicitly stated.

I'm also not sure about this:

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Futures Give New Mechanism to BTC Price Discovery

...which means that Bakkt trading helps to determine the price we see when we click on preev and the price that gets reported in the press (I'm assuming).  I've kind of wondered about this, and it isn't really clear how much Bakkt has been influencing the bitcoin price that gets reported.  Seems like it should have an effect, but what that effect is remains a mystery to me.  If anyone can give an explanation, I'd greatly appreciate it.  That article certainly doesn't help.  It's all just a bunch of TA gobbledygook to me.

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The recent Bakkt activity, however, does not reveal the intentions of traders. Some contracts may never take physical delivery but sell and move onto the next contract.

The above quote ought to show what I meant about Bakkt traders not wanting to own bitcoin, though.

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December 02, 2019, 08:29:55 AM
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The Bakkt bitcoin futures contracts peaked to a new high, signaling strong institutional interest in BTC, risk exposure, affinity in ‘physically’ acquiring the underlying asset. What do you think guys?

https://bitcoinist.com/bakkt-bitcoin-futures-trading-volumes-new-record/

This news combines well with this article https://neironix.io/news/researches/how_the_breakeven_level_of_mining_allows_one_to_determine_the_pivot_point_of_bitcoin

Look at the break-even levels of miners and where there was an increase in volumes on bitcoin futures. I believe this is a set of positions in big money, in anticipation of good growth. But how long these people will continue to gain their positions is not known, so it is not a fact that we will hang out in the region of 5,000 - 7,000 for a couple of months, after which there will be a movement to the region of 16,000 at least.

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December 02, 2019, 08:37:59 AM
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I'm not sure that 3151BTC was actually purchased, either.

From what I know Bakkt futures are backed with actual Bitcoin, so they should actually buy those.... am I wrong?


Bakkt uses physically settled futures rather than cash settled futures (like CME and CBOE)

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December 02, 2019, 09:48:42 AM
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The Bakkt bitcoin futures contracts peaked to a new high, signaling strong institutional interest in BTC, risk exposure, affinity in ‘physically’ acquiring the underlying asset. What do you think guys?

https://bitcoinist.com/bakkt-bitcoin-futures-trading-volumes-new-record/
nothing I think about, except when will the price of bitcoin take a new ATH?
I'm still not sure that Bakkt is a bitcoin driver in the middle of last year, because Bakkt doesn't guarantee that the price of bitcoin is getting better up to now, even though the trading volume seems to be increasing I'm still not sure

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