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December 02, 2019, 03:01:52 AM
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If an exchange listing a coin for free then its probably a scam exchange,just see how much it will cost to list on reputed exchange like Binance.
But if developers looking for much cheaper option means they did't have enough money or trading volume to list on the better exchange.
None of them are smart here,everyone running behind more profits.

Listing fee is not the sole revenue source for the exchanges. Most of their revenue comes from the deposit/withdrawal fee. For example, Yobit charges BTC0.0012 for a Bitcoin withdrawal, while the current fee is somewhere around 1/20th of that amount. Another avenue is the trading fee, but most of the exchanges keep it to a minimal level, so that the users are encouraged to trade more. But no matter how old or large they are, as of now there is no exchange out there which can be trusted completely.

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December 02, 2019, 03:34:52 AM
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Developers sometimes just chase a listing on the stock exchange. And they do not bother to choose the exchange and often they are scammers. But the choice of the exchange is also a very important moment.
That's typical of a scammer. A smart developer will not aim the money that they can collect it through using the crowdsale of their security token. Smart developers will be aiming to get the product. OP will be complicated to find an intelligent developer because if there are five scam developers, and there will be the only developer that can be trusted in this industry right now.  So many fake developers are aiming to get the money from the crypto market only, and they are becoming an amateur developer that already claimed have an outstanding track record and experience to create a useful product.

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December 02, 2019, 03:52:24 AM
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If an exchange listing a coin for free then its probably a scam exchange,just see how much it will cost to list on reputed exchange like Binance.

But if developers looking for much cheaper option means they did't have enough money or trading volume to list on the better exchange.

None of them are smart here,everyone running behind more profits.

They tend to be listed elsewhere where in they can get discounts at the same time said to be listed in an exchange. Some developers only aim to be listed nothing else for them to be considered not a scam ICO. As many ICO projects were getting difficult to list their token. But they should know that they must be listed in trusted exchange to gain investors trust.

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December 02, 2019, 05:22:47 AM
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Some devs cut corners on their product, and sometimes that means not actively taking steps towards getting their project, whether it be a token or coin, listed on a semi-reputable exchange. Doesn't make a ton of sense to me because the cost for listing a coin on an exchange should not be a significant cost compared to how much money many of these projects are still raising even when the alt and crypto markets aren't doing so well in general, but a lot of developers and project managers seem to be more interested in short-term profits than longer-term profit.
I think it's not just a matter of fees for listing in popular markets, but it also depends on the quality of the project. I think the popular market has a requirement for several projects that will be sold in their market. because I think it will also make their reputation worse when they enter tokens from unclear projects.
I think many developers are aware of this and don't mind their products being sold in an unpopular market, and that makes their project look worse than before.

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December 02, 2019, 05:34:15 AM
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The crypto exchange is important for investors and new token or altcoin holders to be able to trade their tokens, but for developers who only get softcap or don't reach softcap, they will focus on the products they develop, after that I'm sure they will register on the crypto exchange accordingly with the funds they have to register on the exchange

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December 02, 2019, 05:34:44 AM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
haha, I think you are too naive to make these comments. because only bad projects, also known as scams, they choose bad exchanges to start. We always know that listed on large exchanges must have capital, a good community and good ideas. In the case of fraudulent projects, they do not have those three criteria, so they decided to choose small exchanges to save costs as well as to fulfill their promises.

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Scam projects list on small exchanges to fulfill their aims at low cost, if you don't know then you should know that good projects always have good capital and private investors too so it will be easy for them to list on big exchange

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December 02, 2019, 06:17:13 AM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
Developers have to be choosy on choosing exchange because investors are now taking care on buying a token/coin especially if its listed on a shit exchange. There are good exchanges that only ask for a small fees and that can be the best option for a developer. Small exchanges are too risky for the big investors and the project development must consider this one. Well, I got your point and its really frustrating to see a token on a dying exchange.

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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others

Some developers however can't do that, because even they aren't genuine; check this out, how can you develop a project then watch it die? It means there wasn't anything good about the project in the first place. Now on the part of investors, once they try participating in a project and realized it is getting listed or doing IEO on bad exchanges they will just take their leave because they have had past experiences with those exchanges. Like you also pointed out, listing fee can be an issue but there are still good exchanges that doesn't require huge listing fee.

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Developers are smart, they know whats they are doing too and many developers are just here to scam people so they will definitely go for crap exchanges to cut short their spendings, newbies should stay away from low exchanges because they always ruin a coin life in a short time
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December 02, 2019, 06:45:19 AM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
Developers have to be choosy on choosing exchange because investors are now taking care on buying a token/coin especially if its listed on a shit exchange. There are good exchanges that only ask for a small fees and that can be the best option for a developer. Small exchanges are too risky for the big investors and the project development must consider this one. Well, I got your point and its really frustrating to see a token on a dying exchange.
of course being an investor must choose a good exchange, for the project to be invested. if on a bad exchange, then we have a double risk, that is, the project itself and the risk of the exchange. therefore by choosing a project that is in good exchange, it can indicate that the project is good too

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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
If you notice, only scam coins are getting listed into scam exchanges. There can be some exceptions like MTC was listed on hitbtc but as of now it had been delisted. Some times developers choose whatever offers they come cross with the intention of reducing the listing costs. This might be ending up listing scam exchanges. But, a dev team that is caring about their investors will never go on listing with an exchange which had failed to keep their reputation high.

Doesn't make a ton of sense to me because the cost for listing a coin on an exchange should not be a significant cost compared to how much money many of these projects are still raising
No, not all the projects are good in attracting investors even they are backed with wonderful concepts and showing good progress in developments. As far as I have heard, listing in big exchanges is more than an average project is able to rise through various crowd funding.

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December 02, 2019, 07:38:31 AM
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They haven't lost as much as investor and moreover they can get free listing from Exchanges and also can scam investors through fake publicity mad sales so they have other means of recovering unlike investors.

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December 02, 2019, 10:57:20 AM
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Developers are smart, they know whats they are doing too and many developers are just here to scam people so they will definitely go for crap exchanges to cut short their spendings, newbies should stay away from low exchanges because they always ruin a coin life in a short time
If this is the only exchange listed your tokens , there is no way you will not use it, unless you dont want to have money with your tokens.
Many reasons for developer to list it only in unpopular exchange.
 1st they dont want to use so much money for listing.
2. They dont raised  enough fund  in thier ICO.
3. They dont really care to list thier tokens, since its worthless coins.
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December 02, 2019, 11:17:21 AM
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From my experience i can tell most of developers do not even try to list their token on good exchanges because they want to keep fund for themselves and spend it for personal stuff since most of ICOs has no fund report or spending report for transparency with investors thats why developers always make sure to mention word donation on their white paper
In my opinion developers who ask for icos with millions of dollars are all scam.
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December 02, 2019, 11:58:25 AM
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From my experience i can tell most of developers do not even try to list their token on good exchanges because they want to keep fund for themselves and spend it for personal stuff since most of ICOs has no fund report or spending report for transparency with investors thats why developers always make sure to mention word donation on their white paper
In my opinion developers who ask for icos with millions of dollars are all scam.

That is true, but maybe they wait for a good moment to try list in the good exchanges, so they don't waste their time to expect the market comes with the bull market. I think they will get another solution for listing their token in the exchanges and we need to wait for their announcement or their new update. But let us be careful to choose the project as the investment because we know that the ICO programs are not recommended for the investment right now.

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December 02, 2019, 12:10:22 PM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
I don't think it's that simple. Despite the listing fee that is quite expensive for some exchanges especially top ones, there must other thing they have to consider before their listing. Even the successful ones, sometimes takes a lot of time before it could be in a good exchanges. As long as the project was proven legit, I don't think that the developers were that dumb to listed their altcoin on some shady exchanges. Unless they don't have any other choice than using the unpopular free listing exchanges.
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December 02, 2019, 12:44:17 PM
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If an exchange listing a coin for free then its probably a scam exchange,just see how much it will cost to list on reputed exchange like Binance.

But if developers looking for much cheaper option means they did't have enough money or trading volume to list on the better exchange.

None of them are smart here,everyone running behind more profits.
for example like this, for large exchanges such as binance, large fees and they are reluctant to enter there. means that they don't have enough money and means the project isn't working. they chose an exchange with a cheap or even free fee, instead it became a boomerang because it was prone to price scams and quiet of demand.
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December 02, 2019, 01:35:07 PM
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
The developers do not want to spend money. The developer who wants to contribute to the future keeps others superior to the "perfect" coin he created. So it would not even be right to call them developers. Imagine, the creators of today's shitcoins are developers like Satoshi who created BTC. There is no tool to measure the difference between them.
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
Developers have to be choosy on choosing exchange because investors are now taking care on buying a token/coin especially if its listed on a shit exchange. There are good exchanges that only ask for a small fees and that can be the best option for a developer. Small exchanges are too risky for the big investors and the project development must consider this one. Well, I got your point and its really frustrating to see a token on a dying exchange.
of course being an investor must choose a good exchange, for the project to be invested. if on a bad exchange, then we have a double risk, that is, the project itself and the risk of the exchange. therefore by choosing a project that is in good exchange, it can indicate that the project is good too
The more here is more and more interested in the world of investing. So many new investors are popping up. Investment is very trending in many circles, the more it is also more and more invetor who continue to develop their talent in the field of investment. This makes them start to race to continue to learn investment. It makes them smarter, but still the process. So it could not develop suddenly.

 
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