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December 01, 2019, 10:19:12 PM
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Russia as an empire has no place at the Olympics

The Russian empire was suspended from participating in the 2018 Winter Olympics due to doping, which, at the initiative of Putin, was fed to Russian athletes at the Sochi Olympics in 2014, whose success was to increase, which fell along with the collapse of the USSR, the international prestige of Russia. The victory at the Sochi Olympics according to Putin's plan was to ensure him popularity as a caring leader worthy of popular love and respect. Yes, Putin needed popular support before the planned, with the help of his protege Yanukovych, the return of Ukraine to the fold of the empire. By the way, I warned of this strategic goal of Putin long before the start of the insidious attack on Ukraine (1,2). True, not everything went smoothly, because of the Maidan, the traitor Yanukovych was forced to flee, and instead of all Ukraine, Putin got only the Crimea and the Donbass. The mutiny in Kharkov and Odessa by Ukrainian patriots was able to repay. Of course, the Russian people, known for their imperial worldview, favor President Putin, not taking into account that the lies and evil that have already become Putin's calling card are punishable. You have to pay for everything, the World is so arranged.

And today, Russian athletes are paying for the deception of their beloved president. The WADA committee recommended that the executive committee of this organization remove Russia for four years from participation in international sports competitions. The fact is that Russia has not yet fulfilled all the requirements for providing the experts with data from the Moscow anti-doping laboratory, and those that were transferred turned out to be changed, which was naturally noticed. As a result, as one would expect, the very status of the Russian Anti-Doping Agency (RUSADA) was in jeopardy. In short, until Russia recognizes the McLaren report, the participation of Russian athletes in international competitions is impossible. In an interview with the BBC, the head of RUSADA, Yuri Ganus, did not ambiguously blame the authorities for this situation, saying that he knew who exactly was behind the substitution of samples for doping. Moreover, he made it clear that he was afraid for his life, on the example of suddenly simultaneously completely dead RUSAD officials Sinev and Kamaev, who knew about Putin’s interference in the sport. (https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-50525144)

In short, until Russia recognizes the McLaren report, the participation of Russian athletes in international competitions is impossible. Putin is well aware that confessing to manipulating samples is tantamount to confessing to a criminal offense committed by him, because in Russia, without Putin’s knowledge, no one would dare to commit such a massive crime. Minister Mutko and the FSB agents involved in the substitution of samples are only executors of the will of the president of all of Russia. (3.4)

Russia should be completely excluded from international sports competitions as an empire that suppresses the sovereign right of other peoples of the empire, besides the Russian, to fly under its national flags. For example, in the UK, Scots and Welsh compete in the World Cup on a par with the British, each under its own national flag.

1. Whose Crimea. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/?skip=150#post-alikbahshi-4030
2. Ukraine as a victim of immorality of the West towards Russia. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/?skip=50#post-alikbahshi-20891
3. Putin is a felon. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-41952
4. Urine Mutko as a symbol of Russian sport. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-42596
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December 02, 2019, 03:14:27 AM
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You need to watch the movie Star Trek (2009) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/.

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December 02, 2019, 06:43:37 PM
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at olympics doping is normal,

countries have to spend a ton of money for specialised athlets, but why cent they spend a ton of money for drugs or high tech equipment.

at china olympics high tech shark skin suits where banned, as they helped break records.

during communism sport was something more hobbylike professional boxing was banned among others, it is the greed of the paying visiting masses that pushes olympics to the extremes.

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December 02, 2019, 06:49:05 PM
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during communism sport was something more hobbylike professional boxing was banned among others.

I beg to disagree, DDR was notorious for their doping. Communist countries saw sport as a way of propaganda, so they really went all in( not just them ofc) . Those were different times though, less money in sports.

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December 02, 2019, 06:56:01 PM
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during communism sport was something more hobbylike professional boxing was banned among others.

I beg to disagree, DDR was notorious for their doping. Communist countries saw sport as a way of propaganda, so they really went all in( not just them ofc) . Those were different times though, less money in sports.

well they where forced into a competition with capitalists,

french revolution was about egalite, fraternitee, communism was more the realisation of those concepts, capitalism has not much to do with egalitee fraternitee.

true communism like in cuba doesn't has professional boxing people have to box themselves

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December 03, 2019, 05:54:19 AM
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You need to watch the movie Star Trek (2009) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/.

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December 03, 2019, 08:00:04 AM
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at olympics doping is normal,


That's what Russia thought. Oops.




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December 04, 2019, 04:21:36 PM
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at olympics doping is normal,


That's what Russia thought. Oops.





they are all doping,

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December 04, 2019, 04:29:10 PM
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at olympics doping is normal,


That's what Russia thought. Oops.





they are all doping,

How do you know that?

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December 04, 2019, 07:42:32 PM
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because thats how it is, no one can compete there so all cheat, the big problem is they have is to not get caught, and they all have developed technques to avoid that

besides its true ukraine is a victim of western hostility towards russia but so is entire eastern europe, during cold war germany was the splitted victim between east and west that shifted eastward and its now ukraine. we soon could observe a westwardness,  we are all sheep and the banksters are the masters/kings/emirs

there are also muslim countries that suffer because they are being abused by the forced between them, like afghanistan that isnt able to run its own government and is being terrorised by taliban from pakistan

the gulf arabic muslim core also terrorises its periphery in a difficult split situation, similar like the west, russia, etc.

everything behaves imperial, even producing private corporations act like empires,

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December 04, 2019, 11:31:29 PM
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Russia as an empire has no place at the Olympics.

But because the UN acts with regard to the Olympics, and Russia has lots of control of the UN, maybe Russia has a big place in the Olympics as "umpire."

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December 05, 2019, 01:17:06 AM
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Russia as an empire has no place at the Olympics.

But because the UN acts with regard to the Olympics, and Russia has lots of control of the UN, maybe Russia has a big place in the Olympics as "umpire."

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UN is obsolete and you can't deny hard working people who dedicated their life to sport just because you don't like their country. Fortunately your anger has no power.
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But anybody can deny the Olympics. Simply don't watch or take part.

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during communism sport was something more hobbylike professional boxing was banned among others.

I beg to disagree, DDR was notorious for their doping. Communist countries saw sport as a way of propaganda, so they really went all in( not just them ofc) . Those were different times though, less money in sports.

Oh yeah. Most (if not all) of the communist countries would dope the hell out of their athletes because if they were to bring a medal back home they'd be able to continue the whole 'we're still the best in the world, obviously'

UN is obsolete and you can't deny hard working people who dedicated their life to sport just because you don't like their country. Fortunately your anger has no power.
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What? Russia does have no place at the Olympics and the OP is right. You shouldn't be allowed to continue to participate in international sports like this if you're going to be doping on a country level and trying to hide it, skirting rules through bribes and so on. This should be open and shut.




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December 05, 2019, 07:48:45 PM
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during communism sport was something more hobbylike professional boxing was banned among others.

I beg to disagree, DDR was notorious for their doping. Communist countries saw sport as a way of propaganda, so they really went all in( not just them ofc) . Those were different times though, less money in sports.

Oh yeah. Most (if not all) of the communist countries would dope the hell out of their athletes because if they were to bring a medal back home they'd be able to continue the whole 'we're still the best in the world, obviously'

Yup.  In China they have special sports schools potential Olympic athletes.  There are lots of interesting articles out there about the process (Ping Pong, Canoeing and Gymnastics have all been covered).  If a child shows they might be capable of winning a medal when they grow up they're placed in one. (I think I read they have about 200k - 300k athletes under 18 in these schools) No education, just training for a single sport for their entire childhood. Their parents have no say in the process and neither do the athletes. And they don't get to decide when they retire either, China decides for them.  And when they do retire, the only thing they are qualified to do is train younger athletes since they were never educated in anything else.

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December 05, 2019, 10:26:35 PM
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during communism sport was something more hobbylike professional boxing was banned among others.

I beg to disagree, DDR was notorious for their doping. Communist countries saw sport as a way of propaganda, so they really went all in( not just them ofc) . Those were different times though, less money in sports.

Oh yeah. Most (if not all) of the communist countries would dope the hell out of their athletes because if they were to bring a medal back home they'd be able to continue the whole 'we're still the best in the world, obviously'

Yup.  In China they have special sports schools potential Olympic athletes.  There are lots of interesting articles out there about the process (Ping Pong, Canoeing and Gymnastics have all been covered).  If a child shows they might be capable of winning a medal when they grow up they're placed in one. (I think I read they have about 200k - 300k athletes under 18 in these schools) No education, just training for a single sport for their entire childhood. Their parents have no say in the process and neither do the athletes. And they don't get to decide when they retire either, China decides for them.  And when they do retire, the only thing they are qualified to do is train younger athletes since they were never educated in anything else.

i am one oppinion with muslims on this actually and many russians too, sports for perfectionism is pointless, olympics is not about maintaining human health, it has become just a spectacle, chasing records.
those athletes are a pointless waste of money, those that created the olympics did it in order to have some kind of international cooperation but science, engineering, police, farming  and other anti terror networks do even better not to mention the cyber gaming networks.

olympics is outdated perfectionism, and doping perverted it, but it is not a russian thing doping is widespread among all athletes of the world.

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December 06, 2019, 08:14:31 AM
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Olympics turns into a pride of country than games which is the reason why countries pushing their players at any extinct to win the games and chase records for that they are training people from their childhood by giving the right diet for the game and also they give doping to boost up their performance.

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December 06, 2019, 08:34:23 PM
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at olympics doping is normal,

countries have to spend a ton of money for specialised athlets, but why cent they spend a ton of money for drugs or high tech equipment.

at china olympics high tech shark skin suits where banned, as they helped break records.

during communism sport was something more hobbylike professional boxing was banned among others, it is the greed of the paying visiting masses that pushes olympics to the extremes.

The rise of doping started to happen when a lot of companies started to spend a lot of money to athletes for endorsements.
Having said that, athletes started to try making more money as if they were on the top they could get more endorsements and make advertisements. It not about winning it is about making more money.
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December 13, 2019, 11:32:50 AM
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Alik Bakhshi
Russia as an empire has no place at the Olympics

The Russian empire was suspended from participating in the 2018 Winter Olympics due to doping, which, at the initiative of Putin, was fed to Russian athletes at the Sochi Olympics in 2014, whose success was to increase, which fell along with the collapse of the USSR, the international prestige of Russia. The victory at the Sochi Olympics according to Putin's plan was to ensure him popularity as a caring leader worthy of popular love and respect. Yes, Putin needed popular support before the planned, with the help of his protege Yanukovych, the return of Ukraine to the fold of the empire. By the way, I warned of this strategic goal of Putin long before the start of the insidious attack on Ukraine (1,2). True, not everything went smoothly, because of the Maidan, the traitor Yanukovych was forced to flee, and instead of all Ukraine, Putin got only the Crimea and the Donbass. The mutiny in Kharkov and Odessa by Ukrainian patriots was able to repay. Of course, the Russian people, known for their imperial worldview, favor President Putin, not taking into account that the lies and evil that have already become Putin's calling card are punishable. You have to pay for everything, the World is so arranged.

And today, Russian athletes are paying for the deception of their beloved president. The WADA committee recommended that the executive committee of this organization remove Russia for four years from participation in international sports competitions. The fact is that Russia has not yet fulfilled all the requirements for providing the experts with data from the Moscow anti-doping laboratory, and those that were transferred turned out to be changed, which was naturally noticed. As a result, as one would expect, the very status of the Russian Anti-Doping Agency (RUSADA) was in jeopardy. In short, until Russia recognizes the McLaren report, the participation of Russian athletes in international competitions is impossible. In an interview with the BBC, the head of RUSADA, Yuri Ganus, did not ambiguously blame the authorities for this situation, saying that he knew who exactly was behind the substitution of samples for doping. Moreover, he made it clear that he was afraid for his life, on the example of suddenly simultaneously completely dead RUSAD officials Sinev and Kamaev, who knew about Putin’s interference in the sport. (https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-50525144)

In short, until Russia recognizes the McLaren report, the participation of Russian athletes in international competitions is impossible. Putin is well aware that confessing to manipulating samples is tantamount to confessing to a criminal offense committed by him, because in Russia, without Putin’s knowledge, no one would dare to commit such a massive crime. Minister Mutko and the FSB agents involved in the substitution of samples are only executors of the will of the president of all of Russia. (3.4)

Russia should be completely excluded from international sports competitions as an empire that suppresses the sovereign right of other peoples of the empire, besides the Russian, to fly under its national flags. For example, in the UK, Scots and Welsh compete in the World Cup on a par with the British, each under its own national flag.

1. Whose Crimea. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/?skip=150#post-alikbahshi-4030
2. Ukraine as a victim of immorality of the West towards Russia. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/?skip=50#post-alikbahshi-20891
3. Putin is a felon. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-41952
4. Urine Mutko as a symbol of Russian sport. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-42596
12/01/19


I fully agree with the author. Russia as a state must be banned from all international competitions. Some individuals may be excluded from such a ban after very thorough scrutiny and can be let to participate under different flags. The world should wake up at last and say its' word as for all crimes Russia has been committing during previous years. The proper response must come from all possible sources and sports is just one of them.
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