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December 29, 2019, 01:36:04 PM
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Altcoin can do it alone because altcoin price always depend with bitcoin, when bitcoin have lower price altcoin keep with lower price and when bitcoin have raise with higher price some time altcoin keep with lower, when altcoin price keep growing up without care about bitcoin on lower or higher price is the time for altcoin can do it alone.

So altcoins CAN do it alone BECAUSE they're always dependent on bitcoin? You totally realize you've just contradicted yourself right?

You want to know what happens when altcoins try to do it alone? That means cutting off Bitcoin completely? Then please refer to Bitcoin SV. They tried for a while and even Bitcoin Cash tried it but eventually, even they need Bitcoin for people to buy them! Complete bollocks about altcoins pretending they can make it alone.
LOL, this is a little complicated. if it depends on bitcoin, then altcoin cannot do it alone. maybe he wrote the correct sentence wrong.
however, in general, the altcoin will go up when bitcoin prices go up, the same as now. if the price of bitcoin goes down, then the price of altcoin will go down. but for special circumstances, the price of an altcoin can develop on its own, like developing something new, or something like that. but to see a real rise, it requires a boost from bitcoin.


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December 29, 2019, 01:37:07 PM
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Altcoin can do it alone because altcoin price always depend with bitcoin, when bitcoin have lower price altcoin keep with lower price and when bitcoin have raise with higher price some time altcoin keep with lower, when altcoin price keep growing up without care about bitcoin on lower or higher price is the time for altcoin can do it alone.

So altcoins CAN do it alone BECAUSE they're always dependent on bitcoin? You totally realize you've just contradicted yourself right?

You want to know what happens when altcoins try to do it alone? That means cutting off Bitcoin completely? Then please refer to Bitcoin SV. They tried for a while and even Bitcoin Cash tried it but eventually, even they need Bitcoin for people to buy them! Complete bollocks about altcoins pretending they can make it alone.

He must have forgot the "T" on "CAN and this is a usual typo for someone who writes fast to point out his view. Like me, his construction of sentences isn't as perfect for English isn't his native tongue. But I can agree an altcoin can't stand without BTC. Just like ERC tokens can't stand alone without ETH while ETH also is dependent to BTC.  IF a token is paired to USD which anyone can buy this token thru credit cards I think it could work on specially if there is really a use case of this token which has demands.

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December 29, 2019, 02:15:56 PM
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Altcoin can do it alone because altcoin price always depend with bitcoin, when bitcoin have lower price altcoin keep with lower price and when bitcoin have raise with higher price some time altcoin keep with lower, when altcoin price keep growing up without care about bitcoin on lower or higher price is the time for altcoin can do it alone.

So altcoins CAN do it alone BECAUSE they're always dependent on bitcoin? You totally realize you've just contradicted yourself right?

You want to know what happens when altcoins try to do it alone? That means cutting off Bitcoin completely? Then please refer to Bitcoin SV. They tried for a while and even Bitcoin Cash tried it but eventually, even they need Bitcoin for people to buy them! Complete bollocks about altcoins pretending they can make it alone.

He must have forgot the "T" on "CAN and this is a usual typo for someone who writes fast to point out his view. Like me, his construction of sentences isn't as perfect for English isn't his native tongue. But I can agree an altcoin can't stand without BTC. Just like ERC tokens can't stand alone without ETH while ETH also is dependent to BTC.  IF a token is paired to USD which anyone can buy this token thru credit cards I think it could work on specially if there is really a use case of this token which has demands.
there is a possibility when altcoin moves on the market not based on the movement or support of bitcoin. because they have a community that can move their prices on the market. moreover, there is a USDT and fiat exchanges might be able to boost altcoin if there is no support from bitcoin that pioneers crypto market trading.









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December 29, 2019, 02:19:52 PM
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Right now, crypto currencies utilizations are quiet too low. And bitcoin is the leading of all cryupto currencies, being also the first decentralized coin. All altcoins will continue to become dependent by bitcoin price movements until a big percentage of the world starts using crypto currencies.
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December 29, 2019, 03:03:01 PM
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Right now, crypto currencies utilizations are quiet too low. And bitcoin is the leading of all cryupto currencies, being also the first decentralized coin. All altcoins will continue to become dependent by bitcoin price movements until a big percentage of the world starts using crypto currencies.

That is correct and indicative of the budding growth of  crypto currencies. The mere fact that the whole space is still nascent means it is actually genrally bullish to invest in coins. Can altcoins do it alone? Not today, but someday when there is actual and real demand.


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December 29, 2019, 03:18:58 PM
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Right now, crypto currencies utilizations are quiet too low. And bitcoin is the leading of all cryupto currencies, being also the first decentralized coin. All altcoins will continue to become dependent by bitcoin price movements until a big percentage of the world starts using crypto currencies.

That is correct and indicative of the budding growth of  crypto currencies. The mere fact that the whole space is still nascent means it is actually genrally bullish to invest in coins. Can altcoins do it alone? Not today, but someday when there is actual and real demand.
It was right, not today, not tomorrow but in the coming years. Altcoins still depending on Bitcoin trends, the entire market will suffer decline once Bitcoin demand will decrease. We can't tell when but it gonna be happening in the future, it is all about how the people/investors trusted to altcoins.

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December 29, 2019, 04:12:49 PM
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Altcoin cannot do it alone.  This is the sole reason that the altcoins movements have always been in accordance with bitcoin. Therefore, when bitcoin bulls, altcoins follow suits and vice versa.

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December 29, 2019, 09:07:05 PM
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hmm ... hard to do such thing like that, u know everything started by bitcoin. and from that reason , its seems imposible to alive alone like u say, because its cant be. that from my opinion of course.
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December 30, 2019, 12:26:05 AM
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i think that real utility just like BNB has for example is the key to thrive without BTC..
or some enterprise adoption or just some group/company adoption so they believe in the coin and using it even if its just to store value
there are really not many coins with that
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December 30, 2019, 02:15:41 AM
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Right now, crypto currencies utilizations are quiet too low. And bitcoin is the leading of all cryupto currencies, being also the first decentralized coin. All altcoins will continue to become dependent by bitcoin price movements until a big percentage of the world starts using crypto currencies.

That is correct and indicative of the budding growth of  crypto currencies. The mere fact that the whole space is still nascent means it is actually genrally bullish to invest in coins. Can altcoins do it alone? Not today, but someday when there is actual and real demand.
If you are talking about personally and when that altcoin has a very good fundamental and that means if that altcoin can even do alone. Remember what already aimed by so many altcoins to stand without depends on bitcoin as the main crypto that determine where the market will be going on.



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December 30, 2019, 04:35:12 AM
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i think that real utility just like BNB has for example is the key to thrive without BTC..


That wouldn't happen, lack of interest for people to invest in btc will lead to lack on interest on altcoins as well, and Binance might not be able to survive when people are not trading. Every altcoins really depends on BTC and we can clearly see that.
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December 30, 2019, 04:46:45 AM
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It will take time. . Altcoins need more usecases and background adoption to start seperating from btc. . It will happen . . :-) currently all crypto space is in beta phase. .
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December 30, 2019, 05:35:15 AM
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hmm ... hard to do such thing like that, u know everything started by bitcoin. and from that reason , its seems imposible to alive alone like u say, because its cant be. that from my opinion of course.
Like you said it hard and the hard part is if some bad happen to bitcoin like quench off the market, the altcoins can't completely do it alone because the crypto investors wont trust any other crypto currency since the reason why they into crypto in the first placd have exit the market but if the case was bitcoin reaching the total 21million coins then the altcoin can do it alone

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December 30, 2019, 06:08:44 AM
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It will take time. . Altcoins need more usecases and background adoption to start seperating from btc. . It will happen . . :-) currently all crypto space is in beta phase. .
Maybe like BTC who already get attention from people. But i think the chance maybe only a little since people always think if center of cryptocurrency is bitcoin. Or maybe if bitcoin get really bad situation like something that force people to not use it anymore.

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December 30, 2019, 06:17:53 AM
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basically all altcoins depend on bitcoin price conditions but not for all altcoin, I've seen altcoin able to pump high when bitcoin prices are bad so for me it all depends on the team if the team is able to attract the attention of investor, coin will pump

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December 30, 2019, 07:16:47 AM
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Altcoins really can't do it alone, not yet, and likely not for a few years. The markets are too thin and confidence is too low. Perhaps we will see the alt season that many have been anticipating, but this needs much higher market confidence. That can be achieved through a prolonged and sustained price rise across the board. So likely bitcoin dominance would either increase or remain similar to now, until we have significantly higher prices. Once that has happened and BTC growth has started to slow, then we see conditions where an alt season can begin.






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December 30, 2019, 08:38:57 AM
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Altcoin can do it alone because altcoin price always depend with bitcoin, when bitcoin have lower price altcoin keep with lower price and when bitcoin have raise with higher price some time altcoin keep with lower, when altcoin price keep growing up without care about bitcoin on lower or higher price is the time for altcoin can do it alone.

So altcoins CAN do it alone BECAUSE they're always dependent on bitcoin? You totally realize you've just contradicted yourself right?

You want to know what happens when altcoins try to do it alone? That means cutting off Bitcoin completely? Then please refer to Bitcoin SV. They tried for a while and even Bitcoin Cash tried it but eventually, even they need Bitcoin for people to buy them! Complete bollocks about altcoins pretending they can make it alone.

He must have forgot the "T" on "CAN and this is a usual typo for someone who writes fast to point out his view. Like me, his construction of sentences isn't as perfect for English isn't his native tongue. But I can agree an altcoin can't stand without BTC. Just like ERC tokens can't stand alone without ETH while ETH also is dependent to BTC.  IF a token is paired to USD which anyone can buy this token thru credit cards I think it could work on specially if there is really a use case of this token which has demands.
it shouldnt be typo, bcz it is very important. people wont get it what he said.
No matter he is native tongue or not, it doesnt affect at all. bcz this is a basic thing that should consider more.

until this time, altcoin *still* and *always* depends with Bitcoin. I think that is because altcoin as a 'option' by whales
so, the first option is Bitcoin and altcoin is another. whales tends to choose Bitcoin than altcoin makes altcoin depend with Bitcoin.
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December 30, 2019, 08:50:15 AM
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Altcoins really can't do it alone, not yet, and likely not for a few years. The markets are too thin and confidence is too low. Perhaps we will see the alt season that many have been anticipating, but this needs much higher market confidence. That can be achieved through a prolonged and sustained price rise across the board. So likely bitcoin dominance would either increase or remain similar to now, until we have significantly higher prices. Once that has happened and BTC growth has started to slow, then we see conditions where an alt season can begin.
No, I don't think so! From what I see, Altcoin is now a hole of startup projects, so I can't equate the growth of the value of Altcoin depends on Bitcoin. Ethereum, XRP, XMR, Litecoin, Dash, ... all had a period of value growth without having to depend on the same thing in Bitcoin (early 2017).

With the above listed, I'm convinced that the growth of lone Altcoin with an active community could still happen soon. Look at-in Ethereum community in the next time. It will prove my opinion is right!

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December 30, 2019, 10:03:55 AM
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Altcoins really can't do it alone, not yet, and likely not for a few years. The markets are too thin and confidence is too low. Perhaps we will see the alt season that many have been anticipating, but this needs much higher market confidence. That can be achieved through a prolonged and sustained price rise across the board. So likely bitcoin dominance would either increase or remain similar to now, until we have significantly higher prices. Once that has happened and BTC growth has started to slow, then we see conditions where an alt season can begin.
No, I don't think so! From what I see, Altcoin is now a hole of startup projects, so I can't equate the growth of the value of Altcoin depends on Bitcoin. Ethereum, XRP, XMR, Litecoin, Dash, ... all had a period of value growth without having to depend on the same thing in Bitcoin (early 2017).

With the above listed, I'm convinced that the growth of lone Altcoin with an active community could still happen soon. Look at-in Ethereum community in the next time. It will prove my opinion is right!

Each alt can make some progress on its own, I don't question that. But entire crypto market grows together, all coins contribute, some more some less, and now it is the entire system, connected in many ways. I couldn't imagine crypto without bitcoin, ethereum, litecoin, even a doge coin.

We can learn from this old proverb, for crypto become globally adopted all projects needs to work together, or at least to be connected at some levels. Global adoption should be the main goal for all of us.

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December 30, 2019, 11:37:15 AM
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Altcoin never can do it alone and need support from other altcoin how to back to higher price, need support for all community from bigger altcoin like ethereum, ripple, litecoin and BNB coin to make their season come back again with higher price, don't worry although with lower price right now always have chance to be with higher price.

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