Facial Recognition Scan is forcibly being implemented over the world!!!.

[Juggy777]

I have read in news that China has made it compulsory for new mobile users to scan their face when registering for new mobile phone services, which I feel is bad in law as this will allow the Chinese government to further snoop on them. In another article the US government now wants it’s own citizens to compulsory take a face scan while entering and exiting their country.

How long do you think before the other countries will follow suit, I would say only a matter of years before facial recognition scan is made compulsory all over the world.

In case you’re wondering why it’s a big deal then let me tell you that there are lots of potential dangers which include: Identity Theft, Hacking and worst of all your information will be sold to the corporates who’ll use it to bombard you with advertisements and products.

Now many will argue that the governments will secure our data and there won’t be any data breaches, well to them I say just do a quick google search and you’ll find that all our sensitive data often gets leaked and will keep getting leaked.

I would like to know how you’re dealing with the menance called facial recognition, and what is the situation in your country.

Also if there’s a data expert here who can give us more guidelines on how to protect ourselves, and any security measures we should implement I would appreciate it you post it here.

Sources:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50587098

https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/02/homeland-security-face-recognition-airport-citizens/

https://www.equifax.co.uk/resources/identity_protection/facial-recognition-and-identity-risk.html

[TECSHARE]

Between this and 5G, you won't be able to fart in your own home without it being logged into a permanent database and examined by AI algorithms. I wish I was exaggerating. You brain dead fucks need to wake up and resist this before privacy becomes a quaint historical concept, and a dystopian total surveillance nightmare becomes the standard. There is really no way to overstate the negative implications of this progression.

[akram143]

In 2020 there are more things to come in China,which is social score for every citizen based on the nature on public and private and these scores will be levied by AI caemras all around their country and will be linked to their national Identity of every personal.

No more privacy...

[Mometaskers]

I don't mind the facial scan for citizens when entering/leaving a country. It's just to prove that you indeed returned/left. You're already providing documents anyway, how bad is a scan? The China face scan for mobile is too much though.

And this is probably already going on for a long time. I remember videos online complaining about face scanning surveillance cameras in UK.

[BADecker]

In America, nobody is forcing anybody to use the $dollar. Even property taxes can be paid in other ways. So, people voluntarily use the USD. Same with anything else. People will be forced into it, or they will have a very difficult life.

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In case you’re wondering why it’s a big deal then let me tell you that there are lots of potential dangers which include: Identity Theft, Hacking and worst of all your information will be sold to the corporates who’ll use it to bombard you with advertisements and products.

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If speaking of a wider impact, I agree with you! this will be a problem. I don't want to exaggerate, but recently I have gotten a telephone call from someone who says that he is from a company that offers services and products.

At first, I relaxed to respond to that, but the call continued to come almost every day and came from different companies offering different services/products ranging from insurance, cosmetics, to milk for babies. Of course, this is very disturbing. And one thing I realize from this case, my personal data has been leaked. OMG! 

I can't imagine if what the @Juggy777 said would happen. it will be very bad!

[star7dust]

All of it might have good and bad consequences... For the security it can be good, but then do you trust the ones who store your data such as the face image? Pretty controversial

[franky1]

Between this and 5G, you won't be able to fart in your own home without it being logged into a permanent database and examined by AI algorithms.

'pfft'
alexa: "would you like me to order you some antacids or some toilet roll?"

[TECSHARE]

I don't mind the facial scan for citizens when entering/leaving a country. It's just to prove that you indeed returned/left. You're already providing documents anyway, how bad is a scan? The China face scan for mobile is too much though.

And this is probably already going on for a long time. I remember videos online complaining about face scanning surveillance cameras in UK.

You are only thinking about the purported use application and not the dual or multiple use of such a database existing. First of all, lets not even get into the false positive rates for facial recognition, or other racial differences in its application as that is a whole other long discussion. Just imagine a world where the government seeks to detain you for any number of reasons, lets for the sake of argument pretend the reasons are legitimate. You won't be able to walk down the street, drive down the road, or show your face in public without your face triggering an alarm and telling law enforcement exactly where they can detain you. Now think for a moment what a less than ethical government might do with such technology. Look into some of the existing issues with simple license plate scanners and imagine the implications of this applying to your face.

[youdacapt]

This is just a standard protocol before they really require bluechips to be planted on your arm . For reasons of sovereignty authorization I have no problem with face recognition mode, at least they guarantee ownership or security guarantees when we are outside their jurisdiction. one day Privacy will be very tight regarding the problem of overpopulation and the state must ensure full control over its citizens.

[Wexnident]

Thing is, countries implement these kinds of shzzers for the sake of security BUT they fail to let us understand how they bloody works, maybe even hide other features or surveillance that are actually done. This really makes believing in these kinds of things really difficult. It's like they are considering us as idiots that can't understand jack sht so they just say, "okay, this just recognizes your face in case you are gonna do something bad. " And that's that. The next thing they'd probably implement is chips in your arms that detect your GPS location every time. Hell, its good and all in case of emergencies, but in the end, it still encases your invasion of privacy.

[TECSHARE]

Thing is, countries implement these kinds of shzzers for the sake of security BUT they fail to let us understand how they bloody works, maybe even hide other features or surveillance that are actually done. This really makes believing in these kinds of things really difficult. It's like they are considering us as idiots that can't understand jack sht so they just say, "okay, this just recognizes your face in case you are gonna do something bad. " And that's that. The next thing they'd probably implement is chips in your arms that detect your GPS location every time. Hell, its good and all in case of emergencies, but in the end, it still encases your invasion of privacy.

With 5G they don't need to chip you, they can locate you anywhere the antennas can reach. 5G is also a surveilance and weapons system, which is why the USA is cracking down so hard on Chinese built 5G infrastructure.

[Mometaskers]

I don't mind the facial scan for citizens when entering/leaving a country. It's just to prove that you indeed returned/left. You're already providing documents anyway, how bad is a scan? The China face scan for mobile is too much though.

And this is probably already going on for a long time. I remember videos online complaining about face scanning surveillance cameras in UK.

You are only thinking about the purported use application and not the dual or multiple use of such a database existing. First of all, lets not even get into the false positive rates for facial recognition, or other racial differences in its application as that is a whole other long discussion. Just imagine a world where the government seeks to detain you for any number of reasons, lets for the sake of argument pretend the reasons are legitimate. You won't be able to walk down the street, drive down the road, or show your face in public without your face triggering an alarm and telling law enforcement exactly where they can detain you. Now think for a moment what a less than ethical government might do with such technology. Look into some of the existing issues with simple license plate scanners and imagine the implications of this applying to your face.

They probably already have such a database built, with all the face unlock on phones and facial recognition on social media. I understand the implications and it is indeed a slippery slope. The technology itself is harmless and can be used for things like finding missing people, etc.

I don't live in the US, do the public there have a way to stop this from being implemented or a way to reduce the risk of it being misused?

[squatz1]

See the crazy thing is the difference in how two of the big world powers in the world treat these types of things.

In the US -- using facial recognition on your phone is a feature, it's something that you may buy a phone for because it saves times when you're signing into your phone.

In China -- Facial recognition is being forced on you. Before phones even had it, China had been implementing facial tracking tech all over the country and now they're forcing this on you.

China uses this to oppress you. The US companies use this as a feature that people like.

[franky1]

facial recognition is not a security feature

i know someone who uses it. and i asked to borrow his phone while its locked. i took a picture of him and held the picture at his phone camera and it let me in.
he was shocked

i told him imagine i took your picture in public and pickpocketted you.
now imagine i pickpocketted you and seen a password keypad with only 3 tries
which is easier to crack

he soon disabled the face recog and went back to using password

[TECSHARE]

I don't mind the facial scan for citizens when entering/leaving a country. It's just to prove that you indeed returned/left. You're already providing documents anyway, how bad is a scan? The China face scan for mobile is too much though.

And this is probably already going on for a long time. I remember videos online complaining about face scanning surveillance cameras in UK.

You are only thinking about the purported use application and not the dual or multiple use of such a database existing. First of all, lets not even get into the false positive rates for facial recognition, or other racial differences in its application as that is a whole other long discussion. Just imagine a world where the government seeks to detain you for any number of reasons, lets for the sake of argument pretend the reasons are legitimate. You won't be able to walk down the street, drive down the road, or show your face in public without your face triggering an alarm and telling law enforcement exactly where they can detain you. Now think for a moment what a less than ethical government might do with such technology. Look into some of the existing issues with simple license plate scanners and imagine the implications of this applying to your face.

They probably already have such a database built, with all the face unlock on phones and facial recognition on social media. I understand the implications and it is indeed a slippery slope. The technology itself is harmless and can be used for things like finding missing people, etc.

I don't live in the US, do the public there have a way to stop this from being implemented or a way to reduce the risk of it being misused?

And currently you can still opt out of using such products. You can't really opt out of government and passively collected databases though like they do at the DMV and now airports. People can raise awareness of the endless negative implications of this technology and get legislation passed to protect against it like some states have done. No technology is harmless. You can build a house with a hammer or you can cave some one's head in with it. This gives the hammer no moral value. Technology is a tool and its use depends on the motives of those that control it.

See the crazy thing is the difference in how two of the big world powers in the world treat these types of things.

In the US -- using facial recognition on your phone is a feature, it's something that you may buy a phone for because it saves times when you're signing into your phone.

In China -- Facial recognition is being forced on you. Before phones even had it, China had been implementing facial tracking tech all over the country and now they're forcing this on you.

China uses this to oppress you. The US companies use this as a feature that people like.

China is a dictatorship which hands down mandates and says comply or else, and the USA is a constitutional republic which is supposed to be ruled by its people, not by its government. The only difference is here they need to provide a layer of bullshit to sell you your enslavement so they can introduce ever increasing levels of surveillance and encroach on our freedoms. This has been the SOP since 9/11 and well before, but 9/11 was the break open excuse to roll out this technological totalitarian dystopia. Think The P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act and The John Warner Defense Authorization act of 2007.

[Mometaskers]

They probably already have such a database built, with all the face unlock on phones and facial recognition on social media. I understand the implications and it is indeed a slippery slope. The technology itself is harmless and can be used for things like finding missing people, etc.

I don't live in the US, do the public there have a way to stop this from being implemented or a way to reduce the risk of it being misused?

And currently you can still opt out of using such products. You can't really opt out of government and passively collected databases though like they do at the DMV and now airports. People can raise awareness of the endless negative implications of this technology and get legislation passed to protect against it like some states have done. No technology is harmless. You can build a house with a hammer or you can cave some one's head in with it. This gives the hammer no moral value. Technology is a tool and its use depends on the motives of those that control it.

At least the face recog is not yet required there in the US and you have more chance of having laws passed against it. Do you think laws can be used to have them destroy passively collected data?

facial recognition is not a security feature

i know someone who uses it. and i asked to borrow his phone while its locked. i took a picture of him and held the picture at his phone camera and it let me in.
he was shocked

i told him imagine i took your picture in public and pickpocketted you.
now imagine i pickpocketted you and seen a password keypad with only 3 tries
which is easier to crack

he soon disabled the face recog and went back to using password

Never used the face recog. Sometimes it's not accurate and activate when scanning faces of relatives. I prefer using fingerprint and just one specific finger per hand meaning I can also force it to only unlock using a password by repeatedly scanning the wrong finger. I disable voice recog when not at home.

[clickerz]

See the crazy thing is the difference in how two of the big world powers in the world treat these types of things.

In the US -- using facial recognition on your phone is a feature, it's something that you may buy a phone for because it saves times when you're signing into your phone.

In China -- Facial recognition is being forced on you. Before phones even had it, China had been implementing facial tracking tech all over the country and now they're forcing this on you.

China uses this to oppress you. The US companies use this as a feature that people like.

The difference here is the one collecting and handling your data. This data can be used to your advantage or disadvantage that's why we should be aware of this. I think in China they have many applications of this being tested, from loan monitoring, travel, etc.

Documentary a year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eViswN602_k

[darkangel11]

There's a series on Netflix called Black Mirror. It touches these problems, you guys should watch it if you haven't already.

I like technology and I don't mind if I'm being filmed by CCTV and scanned. Most people get upset and nervous when you take your phone and start filming them walking, but they don't understand they're being filmed all the time, just not as blatantly. It shows that as long as you don't see things you don't care, but once you realize it's happening it makes you more scared, paranoid even.


Technology always has some pros and cons. I'm a fan of smart homes and think that it's great that your house can sense you coming back and heat up the interior, switch the lights on, make you a coffee. Some people will be scared that what if the house locks you inside or starts telling the whole world where you are and what you're doing, but there's a risk in everything we're doing. You want self driving cars but you also don't want them to run people over or drive off a clif.

[Naida_BR]

We have given all our data in big enterprises and governments.
The next step is to provide our facial picture, as we are persuaded that this is the best way to protect the data that we have already given...
It will come with the smartphones and then be spread as virus.