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December 22, 2019, 09:05:09 AM
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Please join Smiley I posted this in public for a reason (and unfortunately can't do that in Russian).

To be honest, I don't really understand what the problem is?

I don't have much free time, so I'll try to explain myself briefly)


The part in red (if translated correctly) makes me think he confuse the Trust list with feedback.


What's wrong with that? I really formed my trust list solely on my relationships with forum users.



If you remove the banned members from your trust list I will remove your exclusion next week after checking Loyce's update. Hope you didn't take it personally.

I've already edited my trust list)









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December 22, 2019, 09:07:38 AM
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If you remove the banned members from your trust list I will remove your exclusion next week after checking Loyce's update.
I can already confirm klarki removed the 3 banned users with negative feedback from his Trust list:
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Only lega46141 (banned, but no negative feedback) is still on it.



The part in red (if translated correctly) makes me think he confuse the Trust list with feedback.
What's wrong with that? I really formed my trust list solely on my relationships with forum users.
I made a topic for this a while back:
LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system
It's been translated by the community for 10 local boards, which makes me believe many forum members support what I wrote there. Here's the Russian translation:
[Pyкoвoдcтвo] Cиcтeмa дoвepия

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I've already edited my trust list)
Thanks Smiley

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December 22, 2019, 09:23:25 AM
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Thank you, I will once again reconsider my approach to the compilation of the trust list)

I really still do not understand why some users consider me a trust abuser.

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December 22, 2019, 09:39:02 AM
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I really still do not understand why some users consider me a trust abuser.
I'll give you an example: I've received positive feedback from DavidXXXX Banned! (Trust: #  +0 / =0 / -4).
I'm on DT1, so if I would include DavidXXXX on my Trust list that would make him DT2 and my (green) Trust score would increase 1 point.
That would be Trust abuse.

In your case, I think you confused your Trust list with feedback, and all this happened long before you were on DT (and before the users got banned). I don't think you had bad intentions, but when you reach DT1, those decisions suddenly mean something for other users too. So it's good you reconsidered, thanks for that.

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December 22, 2019, 09:57:20 AM
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I really still do not understand why some users consider me a trust abuser.
I'll give you an example: I've received positive feedback from DavidXXXX Banned! (Trust: #  +0 / =0 / -4).
I'm on DT1, so if I would include DavidXXXX on my Trust list that would make him DT2 and my (green) Trust score would increase 1 point.
That would be Trust abuse.

In your case, I think you confused your Trust list with feedback, and all this happened long before you were on DT (and before the users got banned). I don't think you had bad intentions, but when you reach DT1, those decisions suddenly mean something for other users too. So it's good you reconsidered, thanks for that.

This is certainly true. Thanks for the explanation)

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December 22, 2019, 11:13:18 AM
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Thread title doesn't seem Swiss exactly.

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December 22, 2019, 11:15:46 AM
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Thread title doesn't seem Swiss exactly.
How's this:
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DT1-member included banned red-trusted users which increased his own Trust score
I can't add "solved" to the title, it's too long.

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December 22, 2019, 11:20:59 AM
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Oh God that's fair. I mean measured and accurate.
Nice one LoyceV and also klarki for taking the feedback so well.

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Can you tell how long Klarki has had them on his trust list?
Good point: his Trust list is the same now as it was in January.

Week three klarki gains 20 distrusts, up from zero.
Week four - four distrusts are removed.
Week seven - two distrusts are removed.
Week thirteen - three UID's klarki trusts and two UID's that klarki is trusted by are all banned. - (Connected??)
Week fifteen klarki gains two trusts - two weeks later one (lovesmayfamilis) is banned)
Week seventeen - fourth UID klarki trusts is banned and one that trusts them is banned (lovesmayfamilis)
Week 22 lovesmayfamilis is unbanned
Week 35 lovesmayfamilis is removed from trusting klarki



Hello, community!)

It's funny you're discussing me without me)

They do it all the time...  Roll Eyes



I can already confirm klarki removed the 3 banned users with negative feedback from his Trust list:

I count four.



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Only lega46141 (banned, but no negative feedback) is still on it.

Opps, missed this.


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December 23, 2019, 07:02:39 PM
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Week three klarki gains 20 distrusts, up from zero.
That's the result of this topic: the ones who distrusted klarki in this week also distrusted many others. Check the Trust feedback they received around that time.
You can't blame klarki for this.

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December 24, 2019, 02:32:35 AM
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Week three klarki gains 20 distrusts, up from zero.
That's the result of this topic: the ones who distrusted klarki in this week also distrusted many others. Check the Trust feedback they received around that time.
You can't blame klarki for this.

Absolutely not - as I found with studying the trust activities of irfan_pak10 it uncovered compelling evidence of another group of sock puppets adding literally hundreds of UID's to their trust list (including irfan_pak10).

Thanks for pointing that out.

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Speaking of people with a lot of political capital, Loyce why haven't you excluded them yet? I'm just curious.
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