Did Satoshi steal other people's ideas for Bitcoin and one reason why he left?

[Kakmakr]

David Chaum - He visualized a token currency which could be transferred between individuals. Chaum developed a so-called "blinding formula" to encrypt information passed between individuals and later, founded DigiCash.

Wei Dai - In 1998 Wei Dai proposed an "anonymous, distributed electronic cash system" - In the B-money system, digital pseudonyms would be used in order to transfer currency through a decentralized network. Satoshi referenced elements of B-money in his bitcoin whitepaper.

Nick Szabo - Bit Gold came with its own proof-of-work system that in some ways is mirrored by today's bitcoin mining process. Bit Gold aimed to avoid reliance on centralized currency distributors and authorities. Szabo's aim was for Bit Gold to reflect the properties of real gold, thereby enabling users to eliminate the middleman entirely.

Adam Back - He published a paper detailing his protocol in 2002, named: ‘Hashcash – A Denial of Service Counter-Measure.’ Hashcash used a proof-of-work algorithm to aid the generation and distribution of new coins, much like many contemporary cryptocurrencies.

I have had many silent thoughts on this matter and I contemplated the outcome of this experiment, if Satoshi decided to reveal his true identity. How many people would actually take him to court for intellectual copyright infringement? Companies like PayPal revolutionized person-to-person payments online and they might even find a reason to sue him.  

                           Is this not one of the reason why Satoshi Nakamoto never revealed his true identity?

Sources :

https://www.investopedia.com/tech/were-there-cryptocurrencies-bitcoin/
https://btcmanager.com/the-history-of-bitcoin-part-1-what-is-hashcash/
https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/B-money
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo

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[CoinClarity]

Satoshi referenced Wei Dai and Adam Back in his white paper, and he was certainly aware of Chaum, so I don't think you can call it "stealing" their idea -- he simply expanded upon them and ended up creating something greater than their combined parts. I'm quite certain none of the people mentioned above would attempt to take him to court for copyright infringement, not only on lack of grounds but also out of respect for him. Craig Wright, on the other hand, perhaps might.

[Kakmakr]

Satoshi referenced Wei Dai and Adam Back in his white paper, and he was certainly aware of Chaum, so I don't think you can call it "stealing" their idea -- he simply expanded upon them and ended up creating something greater than their combined parts. I'm quite certain none of the people mentioned above would attempt to take him to court for copyright infringement, not only on lack of grounds but also out of respect for him. Craig Wright, on the other hand, perhaps might.

Do you see anything published about Bitcoin by Craig Wright before 2009? - https://dblp.org/pers/hd/w/Wright:Craig_S=  The guy only started publishing something about the Blockchain in 2017.  

These guys have valid claims on some of the technologies that were used in Bitcoin, so they might sue him/her if Satoshi turned out to be  some a$$hole like Craig Wright.

The circumstances might have changed, if this played out differently and Bitcoin might not even have seen the light of day, if Satoshi had to fight off people's claims to his invention.  

[CoinClarity]

Satoshi referenced Wei Dai and Adam Back in his white paper, and he was certainly aware of Chaum, so I don't think you can call it "stealing" their idea -- he simply expanded upon them and ended up creating something greater than their combined parts. I'm quite certain none of the people mentioned above would attempt to take him to court for copyright infringement, not only on lack of grounds but also out of respect for him. Craig Wright, on the other hand, perhaps might.

Do you see anything published about Bitcoin by Craig Wright before 2009? - https://dblp.org/pers/hd/w/Wright:Craig_S=  The guy only started publishing something about the Blockchain in 2017.  

That's besides the point.

These guys have valid claims on some of the technologies that were used in Bitcoin, so they might sue him/her if Satoshi turned out to be  some a$$hole like Craig Wright.

So far none of the parties you mentioned above have mentioned a beef with Satoshi. I'm not sure their copyright claims would be enforceable anyway.

The answer to your question is, no, nobody would or is going to sue Satoshi, not now, not ever. I think he more likely didn't want to face the scrutiny of world governments after developing a competing form of currency.

[slaman29]

I think Satoshi could have contacted some of those guys actually, which is something I always wondered why journalists didn't look for those guys like Wei Dai. But no I don't think any of them would sue him. Satoshi didn't patent anything for himself either remember?

There were other 3 guys that patented some similar blockchain tech though around the time Satoshi came out with BTC, maybe those guys? But how do you chase a ghost?

[airdnasxela]

We don't know the real reason why he is hiding his identity. But I don't think it is because of this. Probably they are just his inspiration on creating bitcoin. Their ideas might have pushed Satoshi on making it into reality. But I don't see this as "stealing someone's idea". Of course, Satoshi also has his idea. Because if it was just totally their idea, why would he even create bitcoin. Why not just let them create it. He won't waste his time on bitcoin if the idea is not his own. It's just merely an "inspiration". There's always an inspiration why something is created.

[CryptoBry]

I have had many silent thoughts on this matter and I contemplated the outcome of this experiment, if Satoshi decided to reveal his true identity. How many people would actually take him to court for intellectual copyright infringement? Companies like PayPal revolutionized person-to-person payments online and they might even find a reason to sue him.       Is this not one of the reason why Satoshi Nakamoto never revealed his true identity?

This can be just another speculation as to the disappearance of a guy named Satoshi Nakamoto from the eyes of the public. One thing we should clarify is that Satoshi Nakamoto can be hard to sue because in the first place he was not, he is not and will never be the owner of Bitcoin. Well, this can be the beauty of the decentralized nature of Bitcoin. If ever there will be a case, then all of us in this industry has to be sued including the miners and maybe even cryptocurrency exchanges. That would really be unthinkable, in the first place. Now, having said that, proving that Satoshi Nakamoto plagiarized the works of many men mentioned by OP can even be more difficult to prove under a fair court run by law and common sense.

[Ucy]

Making things sound this way has serious consequences in my opinion.
 I think Bitcoin is way unique and different from those projects. If one of the people listed decides to go to court to claim Bitcoin, it's going to be more problems in the future.
All these shouldn't be necessary If bitcoin is decentralized, trustless, permissionless,  censored resistance etc. I'd be pleased to see my ideas developed by communities for non-profit reasons.

[Leonardo7]

I don't think stealing their ideas is the reason he chose to stay anonymous, besides someone said he reference some of them on the whitepaper. He has actually created something more envisaged by them all, I think a major opposition from the government could have been the reason for his disappearance.

[odolvlobo]

I have had many silent thoughts on this matter and I contemplated the outcome of this experiment, if Satoshi decided to reveal his true identity. How many people would actually take him to court for intellectual copyright infringement? Companies like PayPal revolutionized person-to-person payments online and they might even find a reason to sue him.  

You can't copyright an idea (at least, in the U.S.).

[Gi01]

There is nothing new under the sun mate. People always develop new things based on a prior knowledge or exploration of someone else. I know Satoshi made reference to some individuals who also had the concept of blockchain technology in mind. Nothing just came out of no where you know. Satoshi would never hide because of this, i guess it's for his safety reason that he decided to stay out of the media.

[Kakmakr]

I have had many silent thoughts on this matter and I contemplated the outcome of this experiment, if Satoshi decided to reveal his true identity. How many people would actually take him to court for intellectual copyright infringement? Companies like PayPal revolutionized person-to-person payments online and they might even find a reason to sue him.  

You can't copyright an idea (at least, in the U.S.).

" Intellectual property is protected by laws specific to the expression of an idea. Copyright is the law specific to the expression of ideas in visual or audio form. Unlike a trademark that indicates a specific item or design is protected, copyright covers a different expression of thought. Source : https://info.vethanlaw.com/blog/2015/10/what-is-the-difference-between-copyright-and-intellectual-property

Intellectual property rights are the rights given to persons over the creations of their minds. They usually give the creator an exclusive right over the use of his/her creation for a certain period of time. Source : https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/trips_e/intel1_e.htm

In the U.S., there are several types of intellectual property, which include patents, trade marks, copyrights, and trade secrets. Patents allow their owner to determine who can make, use, or sell an invention. ... An intellectual property attorney can help you identify, protect, and enforce your IP rights in the U.S. Source : https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/UK-SME-IP-Toolkit_FINAL.pdf

[BitcoinMoses]

David Chaum - He visualized a token currency which could be transferred between individuals. Chaum developed a so-called "blinding formula" to encrypt information passed between individuals and later, founded DigiCash.

Wei Dai - In 1998 Wei Dai proposed an "anonymous, distributed electronic cash system" - In the B-money system, digital pseudonyms would be used in order to transfer currency through a decentralized network. Satoshi referenced elements of B-money in his bitcoin whitepaper.

Nick Szabo - Bit Gold came with its own proof-of-work system that in some ways is mirrored by today's bitcoin mining process. Bit Gold aimed to avoid reliance on centralized currency distributors and authorities. Szabo's aim was for Bit Gold to reflect the properties of real gold, thereby enabling users to eliminate the middleman entirely.

Adam Back - He published a paper detailing his protocol in 2002, named: ‘Hashcash – A Denial of Service Counter-Measure.’ Hashcash used a proof-of-work algorithm to aid the generation and distribution of new coins, much like many contemporary cryptocurrencies.

I have had many silent thoughts on this matter and I contemplated the outcome of this experiment, if Satoshi decided to reveal his true identity. How many people would actually take him to court for intellectual copyright infringement? Companies like PayPal revolutionized person-to-person payments online and they might even find a reason to sue him.  

                           Is this not one of the reason why Satoshi Nakamoto never revealed his true identity?

Sources :

https://www.investopedia.com/tech/were-there-cryptocurrencies-bitcoin/
https://btcmanager.com/the-history-of-bitcoin-part-1-what-is-hashcash/
https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/B-money
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo

Satoshi developed Bitcoin and Blockchain technology without reading any papers of those people what you have mentioned. After he developed the Bitcoin system he was wondering if any one thinking to create e-cash. so search on the Internet and found few articles but not was not very good. Nothing impressed him. He cited Wei Dai and Adam back in White Paper just to let the Cypherpunks know that it not not just a new thing. He even did not bother to say anything about the Bitgold of Nick because it has another story how nick got it from Satoshi. B Money of Wei Dai was not fully explained anything about E-Cash System. It was very poor. But He consider his paper because of Wei Dai was an educated Cryptographer. Craig Wright claimed now that Satoshi plagiarized  his paper which has another story. Every thing will be explained by Satoshi himself soon.

[suvo05]

If satoshi stayed anonymous because he stole other people's idea. Then why those other people are hiding for. They should come up and declare themself to be the inventor. A man who needs no credit why steals others credit?? 

[odolvlobo]

I have had many silent thoughts on this matter and I contemplated the outcome of this experiment, if Satoshi decided to reveal his true identity. How many people would actually take him to court for intellectual copyright infringement? Companies like PayPal revolutionized person-to-person payments online and they might even find a reason to sue him.  

You can't copyright an idea (at least, in the U.S.).

Intellectual property is protected by laws specific to the expression of an idea. ...

The key word here is "expression". You can copyright the expression of an idea, but you can't copyright the idea itself. Satoshi used the ideas of several other people to develop Bitcoin, but he did not copy the expressions of those ideas (the words that they wrote), so there is no basis for copyright infringement.

Here's an example of the difference: The Winklevoss twins did not sue Mark Zuckerberg because he turned their idea for a website into Facebook. They sued him because he worked with them on their idea and then used the results of that work (the intellectual property) to start Facebook.

Similarly, you can't patent an concept, but you can patent an implementation of the concept. Nobody can patent the concept of a decentralized peer-to-peer electronic cash system, but Satoshi can certainly patent Bitcoin, which is an implementation of that concept.

Anyway, although I have researched this subject extensively, I'm not an expert, so my post may contain some inaccuracies.

[Dabs]

In the early days, Satoshi communicated with all those people you mentioned, or cited their works. You can say that bitcoin has been several decades in the making until Satoshi finally put it all together into one system.

[kryptqnick]

I am not sure it counts as stealing. Satoshi took inspiration from both technologies and ideologies. This person did not literally copy any code/academic works, right? And I don't remember any accusations from the people you've mentioned that Satoshi stole anything from them. There can be lots of reasons not to reveal the identity, and some of them can have to do with lawsuits, but I don't think that it's about intellectual property lawsuits. After all, Faketoshi easily got a patent from "his" creation of Bitcoin and blockchain, and he did not get sued by guys like Chaum. If they don't sue such an a**hole, why would they sue the real Satoshi?

[hatshepsut93]

1. Those works had to be patented before we can start talking about any intellectual property theft. And cypherpunks are known for being against copyright laws.

2. Satoshi didn't copy their works, he used their experience to create something entirely new and very different from those works.

3. No one creates something from scratch, everyone uses knowledge of predecessors and improves on their ideas, this is absolutely normal. Satoshi didn't steal anything neither legally or morally or in any other sense of this world.

[poptok1]

Success has many fathers, as they say.
One by one and alone those guys were brilliant enough to give birth to the general idea. Together they could change the world...
Wait a minute...  But steeping aside from conspiracy, satoshi simply combined their efforts and came up with the solution.
All of them cooperated with satoshi, shared their points, ideas and voila. Nobody stole from anybody, it was all voluntary. 

[Sirait]

Success has many fathers, as they say.
One by one and alone those guys were brilliant enough to give birth to the general idea. Together they could change the world...
Wait a minute...  But steeping aside from conspiracy, satoshi simply combined their efforts and came up with the solution.
All of them cooperated with satoshi, shared their points, ideas and voila. Nobody stole from anybody, it was all voluntary. 

this is the point, I agree with you that Sathosi not steal their ideas but perfected the ideas and innovations they conceptualized

the innovation they conceptualized has created thousands of cryptocurrencies with various advantages.