don't screw with the market with fake stuff anymore: im contacting attoneys now

[blandana]

That's probably the right attitude to have.  Even though I'm not a police officer, I notice the flaming and trolls and I see what's illegal and what's done just for harassment and even report it to the SEC and CTFC if something happens that seems like it's just to try to piss someone off.  You aren't tricking me  you little piggies (with all due respect if theres any left)

honestly though You should probably take my words seriously.  I didn't get into this yesterday and I'm not trying to piss anyone off.  

Where does 'not enough other people interested enough to counter a couple of assholes batting the price around' cross over into something illegal?

For most of the time it's a pathetically thinly traded market. Movements like that are a consequence of it. It's far from ideal but it is what it is and no more or less 'organic' because of it. At least it's not yet fully drenched in bots like other markets.

Good madam.  It crosses over into the illegal spectrum when one group of "assholes" try to force on a price on the world when the market is obviously going down and or losing volume.  There are constant illegal trades going on.  I only hope you have become more aware of them through this post.  I will have to forgive your ignorance.

[gentlemand]

Good madam.  It crosses over into the illegal spectrum when one group of "assholes" try to force on a price on the world when the market is obviously going down and or losing volume.  There are constant illegal trades going on.  I only hope you have become more aware of them through this post.  I will have to forgive your ignorance.

Thank you for permitting me to continue to exist. This magnanimity shall not be forgotten.

The question hasn't yet been answered. Where's the illegal part? Is creating a price movement that doesn't match your expectations against the law?

[blandana]

Good madam.  It crosses over into the illegal spectrum when one group of "assholes" try to force on a price on the world when the market is obviously going down and or losing volume.  There are constant illegal trades going on.  I only hope you have become more aware of them through this post.  I will have to forgive your ignorance.

Thank you for permitting me to continue to exist. This magnanimity shall not be forgotten.

The question hasn't yet been answered. Where's the illegal part? Is creating a price movement that doesn't match your expectations against the law?

Like I mentioned.  The illegal part lies in forcing the price to stay above the EMA.  Bitcoin is ruled as a "commodity" by the UK recently not a security as some other users suggest and there have been lawsuits over trying to manipulate the prices on commodities.

It's illegal to force the price of a commodity upwards just because you want to if the market isn't ready.  There is information on google you and I can look into but hands down there's something illegal going on if that activity is happening.


This isn't mario my good Princess, this involves real peoples lives and forcing the market to go up when it's not supposed to is a felony.  

I'm not sure how much clearer I can explain it.

[gentlemand]

when it's not supposed to  

Um.

Ok.

[blandana]

You might ask yourself, "why not mention 'big sellers."

It's because this market think's they are a "problem" when in fact they are literally a part of the market and always have been.

I'll forgive your memes because they are funny, but it's literally ruined people's lives turning this into a drama.  It isn't mortal kombat.
These abusive buyers most likely think it's unfair that people have "more bitcoin than they expected" and they can't believe heavy selling has gone on for this long.  I'm not trying to be biased but it's obvious there some abusive attitudes that don't allow honest opinions in bitcoin anymore even if thousands of peoples lives are in danger by trusting the wrong person.

[blandana]

Looks like the spike was over the SEC announcing approval of a Bitcoin fund.  https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-briefly-breaks-above-7-500-after-sec-approves-btc-fund

You're going to try and sue over price movement when news happened?

By the way I was saying Bitcoin is NOT a security and not covered in the US, then you bring up the UK but your post made it sound like out are US based (calling the SEC commissioners or whatnot) You can't just pick and choose rules of different countries. Which country are you in and planning to bring this to court?

I'm planning to sue Binance.com if I can since I was allowed to trade there as a U.S. citizen and this type of behavior was still going on.  Do you want to flame me more or be an adult and admit there some serious bad shit going on here?  This isn't about karma.

Also: you expect me to believe the the entire world was watching the news feeds and that it was just "ready" for that kind of thing?  I'm not sure how delusional this community has gotten.  It's really uncalled for if you think that sort of thing needs to happen.  This is a repeat of the china article that happened a month or two ago.  Just another excuse to break the law and try to force the price up more as if it's legitimate (in my honest AND experienced opinion)

[blandana]

Looks like the spike was over the SEC announcing approval of a Bitcoin fund.  https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-briefly-breaks-above-7-500-after-sec-approves-btc-fund

You're going to try and sue over price movement when news happened?

By the way I was saying Bitcoin is NOT a security and not covered in the US, then you bring up the UK but your post made it sound like out are US based (calling the SEC commissioners or whatnot) You can't just pick and choose rules of different countries. Which country are you in and planning to bring this to court?

I'm planning to sue Binance.com if I can since I was allowed to trade there as a U.S. citizen and this type of behavior was still going on.  Do you want to flame me more or be an adult and admit there some serious bad shit going on here?  This isn't about karma.

Also: you expect me to believe the the entire world was watching the news feeds and that it was just "ready" for that kind of thing?  I'm not sure how delusional this community has gotten.  It's really uncalled for if you think that sort of thing needs to happen.  This is a repeat of the china article that happened a month or two ago.  Just another excuse to break the law and try to force the price up more as if it's legitimate (in my honest AND experienced opinion)

Good luck proving Binance was involved and we're doing it with intent and profiting off it (they make their money if the coin goes down or up).

Almost a genuine response there promoting good knowledge and rationality.  You're welcome to try more.  I think you almost got it now.  Thanks for maybe even jokingly considering what I had to say was legit.  I guess I should give you a cookie or something.  I have screenshots.  Whether or not it's binance there is a problem ON Binance.com which spoofs the market, makes unnecessary buy walls and harasses sellers.  Need I say more?  It's not legal at all.

[mindrust]

Looks like the spike was over the SEC announcing approval of a Bitcoin fund.  https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-briefly-breaks-above-7-500-after-sec-approves-btc-fund

You're going to try and sue over price movement when news happened?

By the way I was saying Bitcoin is NOT a security and not covered in the US, then you bring up the UK but your post made it sound like out are US based (calling the SEC commissioners or whatnot) You can't just pick and choose rules of different countries. Which country are you in and planning to bring this to court?

I'm planning to sue Binance.com if I can since I was allowed to trade there as a U.S. citizen and this type of behavior was still going on.  Do you want to flame me more or be an adult and admit there some serious bad shit going on here?  This isn't about karma.

Also: you expect me to believe the the entire world was watching the news feeds and that it was just "ready" for that kind of thing?  I'm not sure how delusional this community has gotten.  It's really uncalled for if you think that sort of thing needs to happen.  This is a repeat of the china article that happened a month or two ago.  Just another excuse to break the law and try to force the price up more as if it's legitimate (in my honest AND experienced opinion)

Good luck proving Binance was involved and we're doing it with intent and profiting off it (they make their money if the coin goes down or up).

Almost a genuine response there promoting good knowledge and rationality.  You're welcome to try more.  I think you almost got it now.  Thanks for maybe even jokingly considering what I had to say was legit.  I guess I should give you a cookie or something.  I have screenshots.  Whether or not it's binance there is a problem ON Binance.com which spoofs the market, makes unnecessary buy walls and harasses sellers.  Need I say more?  It's not legal at all.

Please don't bring your legal shit to this. We are happy with the current state of bitcoin.

Why would you even want to trade on binance which is an unregulated exchange btw while there are regulated stock markets in the US?

S&P500 wasn't decent enough for you?

You wanted high risk, you wanted big returns, you wanted adrenaline and that's why you went to binance.

Why are you whining?

[blandana]

Looks like the spike was over the SEC announcing approval of a Bitcoin fund.  https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-briefly-breaks-above-7-500-after-sec-approves-btc-fund

You're going to try and sue over price movement when news happened?

By the way I was saying Bitcoin is NOT a security and not covered in the US, then you bring up the UK but your post made it sound like out are US based (calling the SEC commissioners or whatnot) You can't just pick and choose rules of different countries. Which country are you in and planning to bring this to court?

I'm planning to sue Binance.com if I can since I was allowed to trade there as a U.S. citizen and this type of behavior was still going on.  Do you want to flame me more or be an adult and admit there some serious bad shit going on here?  This isn't about karma.

Also: you expect me to believe the the entire world was watching the news feeds and that it was just "ready" for that kind of thing?  I'm not sure how delusional this community has gotten.  It's really uncalled for if you think that sort of thing needs to happen.  This is a repeat of the china article that happened a month or two ago.  Just another excuse to break the law and try to force the price up more as if it's legitimate (in my honest AND experienced opinion)

Good luck proving Binance was involved and we're doing it with intent and profiting off it (they make their money if the coin goes down or up).

Almost a genuine response there promoting good knowledge and rationality.  You're welcome to try more.  I think you almost got it now.  Thanks for maybe even jokingly considering what I had to say was legit.  I guess I should give you a cookie or something.  I have screenshots.  Whether or not it's binance there is a problem ON Binance.com which spoofs the market, makes unnecessary buy walls and harasses sellers.  Need I say more?  It's not legal at all.

Please don't bring your legal shit to this. We are happy with the current state of bitcoin.

Why would you even want to trade on binance which is an unregulated exchange btw while there are regulated stock markets in the US?

S&P500 wasn't decent enough for you?

You wanted high risk, you wanted big returns, you wanted adrenaline and that's why you went to binance.

Why are you whining?

You think I'm going to take you seriously when you act like this?  It's obvious you are here to just try and put people down even if they are right.  Consider stopping being an ignorant flamer.

There's a lot of bad stuff going on in bitcoin and you and other people who might be getting paid to act like piles of crap on the internet to everyone should most likely reconsider their attitude

[mindrust]

Looks like the spike was over the SEC announcing approval of a Bitcoin fund.  https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-briefly-breaks-above-7-500-after-sec-approves-btc-fund

You're going to try and sue over price movement when news happened?

By the way I was saying Bitcoin is NOT a security and not covered in the US, then you bring up the UK but your post made it sound like out are US based (calling the SEC commissioners or whatnot) You can't just pick and choose rules of different countries. Which country are you in and planning to bring this to court?

I'm planning to sue Binance.com if I can since I was allowed to trade there as a U.S. citizen and this type of behavior was still going on.  Do you want to flame me more or be an adult and admit there some serious bad shit going on here?  This isn't about karma.

Also: you expect me to believe the the entire world was watching the news feeds and that it was just "ready" for that kind of thing?  I'm not sure how delusional this community has gotten.  It's really uncalled for if you think that sort of thing needs to happen.  This is a repeat of the china article that happened a month or two ago.  Just another excuse to break the law and try to force the price up more as if it's legitimate (in my honest AND experienced opinion)

Good luck proving Binance was involved and we're doing it with intent and profiting off it (they make their money if the coin goes down or up).

Almost a genuine response there promoting good knowledge and rationality.  You're welcome to try more.  I think you almost got it now.  Thanks for maybe even jokingly considering what I had to say was legit.  I guess I should give you a cookie or something.  I have screenshots.  Whether or not it's binance there is a problem ON Binance.com which spoofs the market, makes unnecessary buy walls and harasses sellers.  Need I say more?  It's not legal at all.

Please don't bring your legal shit to this. We are happy with the current state of bitcoin.

Why would you even want to trade on binance which is an unregulated exchange btw while there are regulated stock markets in the US?

S&P500 wasn't decent enough for you?

You wanted high risk, you wanted big returns, you wanted adrenaline and that's why you went to binance.

Why are you whining?

You think I'm going to take you seriously when you act like this.  It's obvious you are here to just try and put people down even if they are right.  Consider stopping being an ignorant flamer.

There's a lot of bad stuff going on in bitcoin and you and other people who might be getting paid to act like piles of crap on the Internet to everyone should most likely reconsider their attitude

You think anybody here takes you seriously?

You are complaining about the people who put buy/sell walls. Are you for real?

Wake the fuck up.

Maybe you should take this matter to the President. I'm serious with that one.

[blandana]

Looks like the spike was over the SEC announcing approval of a Bitcoin fund.  https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-briefly-breaks-above-7-500-after-sec-approves-btc-fund

You're going to try and sue over price movement when news happened?

By the way I was saying Bitcoin is NOT a security and not covered in the US, then you bring up the UK but your post made it sound like out are US based (calling the SEC commissioners or whatnot) You can't just pick and choose rules of different countries. Which country are you in and planning to bring this to court?

I'm planning to sue Binance.com if I can since I was allowed to trade there as a U.S. citizen and this type of behavior was still going on.  Do you want to flame me more or be an adult and admit there some serious bad shit going on here?  This isn't about karma.

Also: you expect me to believe the the entire world was watching the news feeds and that it was just "ready" for that kind of thing?  I'm not sure how delusional this community has gotten.  It's really uncalled for if you think that sort of thing needs to happen.  This is a repeat of the china article that happened a month or two ago.  Just another excuse to break the law and try to force the price up more as if it's legitimate (in my honest AND experienced opinion)

Good luck proving Binance was involved and we're doing it with intent and profiting off it (they make their money if the coin goes down or up).

Almost a genuine response there promoting good knowledge and rationality.  You're welcome to try more.  I think you almost got it now.  Thanks for maybe even jokingly considering what I had to say was legit.  I guess I should give you a cookie or something.  I have screenshots.  Whether or not it's binance there is a problem ON Binance.com which spoofs the market, makes unnecessary buy walls and harasses sellers.  Need I say more?  It's not legal at all.

Please don't bring your legal shit to this. We are happy with the current state of bitcoin.

Why would you even want to trade on binance which is an unregulated exchange btw while there are regulated stock markets in the US?

S&P500 wasn't decent enough for you?

You wanted high risk, you wanted big returns, you wanted adrenaline and that's why you went to binance.

Why are you whining?

You think I'm going to take you seriously when you act like this.  It's obvious you are here to just try and put people down even if they are right.  Consider stopping being an ignorant flamer.

There's a lot of bad stuff going on in bitcoin and you and other people who might be getting paid to act like piles of crap on the Internet to everyone should most likely reconsider their attitude

You think anybody here takes you seriously?

You are complaining about the people who put buy/sell walls. Are you for real?

Wake the fuck up.

Maybe you should take this matter to the President. I'm serious with that one.

You're starting to get violent and your responses are not welcome in this thread anymore.  I will report you to the admins if you continue to be violent and harass me.  You are no longer adding anything but just insulting me.

[Mulann2]

@op if you don't want community members opinion,  you shouldn't have brought the topic here because it looks like you already got it all figured out and whatever anyone says that does not agree with you is not welcome,
Don't you think the best thing is take it to the appropriate platform where you could get support, i hope you succeed in your quest.

[blandana]

@op if you don't want community members opinion,  you shouldn't have brought the topic here because it looks like you already got it all figured out and whatever anyone says that does not agree with you is not welcome,
Don't you think the best thing is take it to the appropriate platform where you could get support, i hope you succeed in your quest.

To you.  if they didn't want or like my honest opinion they shouldn't have harassed me.  There's a fine line between harassment and opinions.  Some of these people don't seem to understand that.

[blandana]

Looks like the spike was over the SEC announcing approval of a Bitcoin fund.  https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-briefly-breaks-above-7-500-after-sec-approves-btc-fund

You're going to try and sue over price movement when news happened?

By the way I was saying Bitcoin is NOT a security and not covered in the US, then you bring up the UK but your post made it sound like out are US based (calling the SEC commissioners or whatnot) You can't just pick and choose rules of different countries. Which country are you in and planning to bring this to court?

I'm planning to sue Binance.com if I can since I was allowed to trade there as a U.S. citizen and this type of behavior was still going on.  Do you want to flame me more or be an adult and admit there some serious bad shit going on here?  This isn't about karma.

Also: you expect me to believe the the entire world was watching the news feeds and that it was just "ready" for that kind of thing?  I'm not sure how delusional this community has gotten.  It's really uncalled for if you think that sort of thing needs to happen.  This is a repeat of the china article that happened a month or two ago.  Just another excuse to break the law and try to force the price up more as if it's legitimate (in my honest AND experienced opinion)

Good luck proving Binance was involved and we're doing it with intent and profiting off it (they make their money if the coin goes down or up).

Almost a genuine response there promoting good knowledge and rationality.  You're welcome to try more.  I think you almost got it now.  Thanks for maybe even jokingly considering what I had to say was legit.  I guess I should give you a cookie or something.  I have screenshots.  Whether or not it's binance there is a problem ON Binance.com which spoofs the market, makes unnecessary buy walls and harasses sellers.  Need I say more?  It's not legal at all.

Please don't bring your legal shit to this. We are happy with the current state of bitcoin.

Why would you even want to trade on binance which is an unregulated exchange btw while there are regulated stock markets in the US?

S&P500 wasn't decent enough for you?

You wanted high risk, you wanted big returns, you wanted adrenaline and that's why you went to binance.

Why are you whining?

You think I'm going to take you seriously when you act like this.  It's obvious you are here to just try and put people down even if they are right.  Consider stopping being an ignorant flamer.

There's a lot of bad stuff going on in bitcoin and you and other people who might be getting paid to act like piles of crap on the Internet to everyone should most likely reconsider their attitude

You think anybody here takes you seriously?

You are complaining about the people who put buy/sell walls. Are you for real?

Wake the fuck up.

Maybe you should take this matter to the President. I'm serious with that one.

You're starting to get violent and your responses are not welcome in this thread anymore.  I will report you to the admins if you continue to be violent and harass me.  You are no longer adding anything but just insulting me.

Fuck the admins, report me to the fucking president moron.

You're asking me to report you and I don't know the president.  I just sent the admins a notice though regarding your comments.  I'm not sure if I should say you're welcome.  The deed is done though.  I guess I'm not going to expect a thank you however.

[poptok1]

OK, but what is that you can propose in order to deal with this problem of yours, or rather ours, according to you?
You need a president Trump to make an expose about it, maybe a chairman of federal reserve or world bank should appear on a stand, with a green screen, set with a colourful Joseph Stalin as a wallpaper and announce all bitcoin prices to be frozen?
What do you want? It's super easy to criticize, especially without a solution proposition. If you are thinking about more regulation, than I have a bad news for you, it wont work. It never does. If you care about my advice at this point, change the exchange that you're using for something smaller or less regulated. It usually means more freedom because this is the real solution.    

[blandana]

OK, but what is that you can propose in order to deal with this problem of yours, or rather ours, according to you?
You need a president Trump to make an expose about it, maybe a chairman of federal reserve or world bank should appear on a stand with a green screen set with a colourful Joseph Stalin as a wallpaper and announce all bitcoin prices to be frozen?
What do you want? It's super easy to criticize, especially without a solution proposition. If you are thinking about more regulation, than I have a bad news for you, it wont work. It never does. If you care about my advice at this point, change the exchange that you're using for something smaller or less regulated. It usually means more freedom because this is the real solution.    

Fire the "CEO of Binance" or question them severely and make sure they tell the truth about what they have been doing in the market.  Also question them and ask whether or not they have been "complacent" regarding manipulation in attempts to force the price of bitcoin goes up.

It's going to take a legal team to get things done if it's happening with fake money but that's my suggestion.

Oh and also, don't forget that tether audit which has never happened to this day.

Either one would be a good step in the right direction.

[gmdever]

You looking as serious as game-protect, who helps user get back their coins scammed by the Online casinos specially licensed in the Curaçao.
We need more of such users to make crypto world a better place for normal naive investors.

Shut up and take my merit.  Laughed a heck of a lot at that one. Just hope you weren't serious cause then I'd be supporting game protect in their scams.

[blandana]

OK, but what is that you can propose in order to deal with this problem of yours, or rather ours, according to you?
You need a president Trump to make an expose about it, maybe a chairman of federal reserve or world bank should appear on a stand, with a green screen, set with a colourful Joseph Stalin as a wallpaper and announce all bitcoin prices to be frozen?
What do you want? It's super easy to criticize, especially without a solution proposition. If you are thinking about more regulation, than I have a bad news for you, it wont work. It never does. If you care about my advice at this point, change the exchange that you're using for something smaller or less regulated. It usually means more freedom because this is the real solution.    

You know it's time to stop joking about this as if I'm stupid.  You can be sentenced to death in China if you commit fraud which is what this is all about and most of this stuff appears to be happening in China.  

I'll leave this as a subcoment.  Whoever is doing this doesn't realize what they're getting into.  It's not a game, they're toying with their freedom and their life at this point.

[poptok1]

Fire the "CEO of Binance" or question them severely and make sure they tell the truth about what they have been doing in the market.  Also question them and ask whether or not they have been "complacent" regarding manipulation in attempts to force the price of bitcoin goes up.

Makes sense, so basically you would have to take this issue to court, under suspicion of AI driven price fixing.
Isn't it better to seek similarly minded people, that are willing to file group case, instead of accusing an entire market of giant fraud?
It is just this one exchange that got you in to suspicions, not crypto market as a whole, right? Gather the evidence, the more the better and look for potential witnesses, next is a good layer and voila. Just try to present yourself as being genuinely concern for customer safety, don't rant and call names If you're right, god will provide, as they say.

[blandana]

Fire the "CEO of Binance" or question them severely and make sure they tell the truth about what they have been doing in the market.  Also question them and ask whether or not they have been "complacent" regarding manipulation in attempts to force the price of bitcoin goes up.

Makes sense, so basically you would have to take this issue to court, under suspicion of AI driven price fixing.
Isn't it better to seek similarly minded people, that are willing to file group case, instead of accusing an entire market of giant fraud?
It is just this one exchange that got you in to suspicions, not crypto market as a whole, right? Gather the evidence, the more the better and look for potential witnesses, next is a good layer and voila. Just try to present yourself as being genuinely concern for customer safety, don't rant and call names If you're right, god will provide, as they say.

First off, it started on Bitfinex and then went to Binance.com

Second, I'm not accusing the entire market.  Buys aren't wrong but when someone tries to harass the market everyday and people like you try to cover up that fact there is a problem.

Third:  not sure what else to say.  I don't need you to ignorant.