Is Sec regulation making the Bull market slower?

[Russlenat]

Forget about the SEC, there's no hype on SEC anymore so it will not result to a big price movement if there's some significant news that will come.
It's the overall market performance that are struggling so no bull run yet but it doesn't mean bull run would not come, it will come but it might take time where everyone of us does not know when exactly it will happen.

SEC and the Bakkt launch were hype in the past but when Bakkt launched, nothing has been positive happen to this market.

Just think of it as it will give a long term effect but not now when people aren't aggressive in investing again.

[Baofeng]

We yet to see another Bull market after 2017. SEC is significantly regulating the Crypto but it's still yet to be processed. ICos, STOs then ETF, are we going to get any indication for those staff sooner?

There is already regulations put into place isn't it? Even FATF and EU have their own version. So it doesn't make any difference if they're going to regulate or not. This is a free market and I would say that it's hard to stop. As far as bull run is concern, market works in cycle, so we just have to wait when will be the next bull run. And if we ever go on another run, no one can stop it, not even SEC.

[alyssa85]

The problem has always been the glaring lack of adoption from the people and from the business community. So why there is that lack of adoption in the first place? Aside from the usual volatility of the digital assets, people are feeling that in this industry there is a lack of security. And it is not the fault of the government. In the first place, if people in cryptocurrency especially with Bitcoin are heavily using the assets in the P2P manner, we would not have any government and its regulatory power coming into the scene that much. But this is not what is happening. Many people are not feeling secured in this industry partly because of the many scams and hacks going on. And that is not the fault of the government. We usually have a distrust with the government because of what happened a decade ago but that concern is now fading, and we could not use that kind of fear anymore these days. Partly the government can be a reason but the biggest reason why bull run is having a hard time to happen is the market itself. When there is an avalanche demand for cryptocurrency no government can do something about it. But when the demand is not that attractive, we usually survey the horizon and just pick up anything to lay the blame for.

It's not just people feeling the lack of security. It's the problems with slow blocks, mempool backlogs and rising fees.

I feel the episode in late 2017/early 2018 when transactions were waitin 3 weeks to be confirmed, really hurt bitcoin. Steam removed their bitcoin payment option and has never reinstated it. And other retailers stopped additing bitcoin. Bitcoin has become a speculative asset.

[beerlover]

Regulations are not stopping the bull market, regulations are stopping people from pumping and dumping bitcoin to their liking. If you are a whale who made a billion dollar profits you gotta pay the taxes of it as well, you got acknowledge the fact that government wants a piece of the pie and in order to pay your taxes you gotta let them know how much money you put in, how much you got out, what you did for it and who you are.

Basically all the info they could get their hands on, which for some whales is a big no no for some weird reason so they don't do it anymore. People who got bitcoin and want to sell still can, it is not illegal to dump thousands of bitcoin all at once, however it is shady and gray area for legality depending on where you are (for example NY made it illegal) to buy back slowly to gather more at cheap after you just sold.

[Jating]

We yet to see another Bull market after 2017.

We might see one in 2021, assuming the four year cycle.

SEC is significantly regulating the Crypto but it's still yet to be processed. ICos, STOs then ETF, are we going to get any indication for those staff sooner?

Unlikely that we will see SEC approving ETF's.

They are clamping on ICO's and if I'm not mistaken, they have sued projects already. Troubled messaging app Kik sued by SEC over initial coin offering.

They're even barring US citizens from investing in ICOs.

[pamsugas]

we have seen the bull market,  it's just not as big as at the end of 2017.
at the time of February to July we were on a bull namu now in August until December we are still bleeding. I don't think  SEC has made the bull market slow down. You can see my post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207095.msg53286647#msg53286647 we are now in an accumulated market.

[barota]

bitcoin need new investors who hold ; every time this happend and halving approaching; the bull run will creat slower then prices will be very strong and for sure bear market or crash will end and will never effect like recent two years ; you should not waiting for etf or bakkt for investing and buying

[darkangel11]

I don't think it's like that. Americans think their influence over the world economy is greater than it really is. That's why when you hear about Bitcoin taxes you mostly hear about the SEC being onto you, but the SEC cares only about US citizens. They cannot dictate how you should be taxed in Europe or Asia.
Bitcoin markets are a similar case. Most Bitcoins don't change hands in the US but rather in Asia.

[Febo]

We yet to see another Bull market after 2017. SEC is significantly regulating the Crypto but it's still yet to be processed. ICos, STOs then ETF, are we going to get any indication for those staff sooner?

Regulations in many countries for sure helped to stop the ICO craze. But the failing to bring profits of the ICO projects is what is the main reason. Most ICOs were a crowd funding's for a project that could not get founds in a bank or of some angel investors. Reason for that was clear. They did not see it will be profitable. And now 2-3 years latter we can see that most were not. So. Not sure what else to expect then that people just rather decide to pass on new ICOs.

[Gotumoot]

We yet to see another Bull market after 2017. SEC is significantly regulating the Crypto but it's still yet to be processed. ICos, STOs then ETF, are we going to get any indication for those staff sooner?

Not only sec regulation has slowed the bull market, but also government regulations and of course governments that banned the use of bitcoin.
There are also market whales that control the prices of altcoins and bitcoins. We cannot deny it especially since we have seen how bitcoin has risen and has fallen rapidly.

[exstasie]

We yet to see another Bull market after 2017. SEC is significantly regulating the Crypto but it's still yet to be processed. ICos, STOs then ETF, are we going to get any indication for those staff sooner?

There is already regulations put into place isn't it? Even FATF and EU have their own version. So it doesn't make any difference if they're going to regulate or not. This is a free market and I would say that it's hard to stop.

He's implying all their enforcement actions and perceived meddling in the token markets have put a damper on the market. Nobody wants to launch or invest in new projects in this environment. The repeated denial of ETF applications may also be a deterrent for more traditional and institutional investors, who are waiting for SEC-approved exchange-traded instruments with lower carry costs.

[1Referee]

Regulations in many countries for sure helped to stop the ICO craze. But the failing to bring profits of the ICO projects is what is the main reason.

All bubbles burst at one point. If you reward scammy projects with in some cases hundreds of millions worth of Bitcoin and Ether, you can be assured that the same scammers will dump the market down again. They created tokens out of thin air and became filthy rich overnight.

ICO's can keep dumping the price down to super low levels (which they did) because they didn't buy these coins with their hard earned money. If something is given to you for free, you'll be happy to sell that something at any price because it is and will stay a net gain. I hope that people can agree on the fact that it is not normal that a lot of tokens are down 98-99% from their all time high. 

[eaLiTy]

We yet to see another Bull market after 2017. SEC is significantly regulating the Crypto but it's still yet to be processed. ICos, STOs then ETF, are we going to get any indication for those staff sooner?

If the price of bitcoin starts a rally from $3500 to $13000 i would say that it was a small bull run and we saw that this year a few months back and what do you expect from the market, move up to all time high valuation every now and then and then see a correction . The SEC has nothing to do with the valuation of BTCitcoin and they are allowing fund managers to function legally and they are not restricting the market but the market needs more maturity then we might see the SEC approving BTCitcoin ETF in the coming years.

[marcous]

Whether or not the SEC will effect or not. seems it doesn't have any effect on the price of Bitcoin, last year the price of Bitcoin crashed due to SEC rumors but it seems like it was only manipulation or diversion of the issue. The SEC more precisely regulates the ICO project last year, which was stuck by regulations they could not continue their project, but this is another case when faced with the price of Bitcoin I guess.

[clickerz]

We yet to see another Bull market after 2017. SEC is significantly regulating the Crypto but it's still yet to be processed. ICos, STOs then ETF, are we going to get any indication for those staff sooner?

Regulations in many countries for sure helped to stop the ICO craze. But the failing to bring profits of the ICO projects is what is the main reason. Most ICOs were a crowd funding's for a project that could not get founds in a bank or of some angel investors. Reason for that was clear. They did not see it will be profitable. And now 2-3 years latter we can see that most were not. So. Not sure what else to expect then that people just rather decide to pass on new ICOs.

Regulations are another factor that slowdown the market. When a regulation is not favorable, even a piece of single news, people are thinking twice before putting their money on crypto. Of course, it is understandable because of its a hard-earned money and as possible they want to put on a sure way to gain profit. Another factor is that FUD news, which really affects the price.

[Wexlike]

We yet to see another Bull market after 2017. SEC is significantly regulating the Crypto but it's still yet to be processed. ICos, STOs then ETF, are we going to get any indication for those staff sooner?

Regulations in many countries for sure helped to stop the ICO craze. But the failing to bring profits of the ICO projects is what is the main reason. Most ICOs were a crowd funding's for a project that could not get founds in a bank or of some angel investors. Reason for that was clear. They did not see it will be profitable. And now 2-3 years latter we can see that most were not. So. Not sure what else to expect then that people just rather decide to pass on new ICOs.

Regulations are another factor that slowdown the market. When a regulation is not favorable, even a piece of single news, people are thinking twice before putting their money on crypto. Of course, it is understandable because of its a hard-earned money and as possible they want to put on a sure way to gain profit. Another factor is that FUD news, which really affects the price.

In Germany the Bitcoin regulation is quite favorable, now allowing banks to hold cryptocurrencies for their customers. Allowing a much bigger market.

[kapalmabur]

We yet to see another Bull market after 2017. SEC is significantly regulating the Crypto but it's still yet to be processed. ICos, STOs then ETF, are we going to get any indication for those staff sooner?

Regulations in many countries for sure helped to stop the ICO craze. But the failing to bring profits of the ICO projects is what is the main reason. Most ICOs were a crowd funding's for a project that could not get founds in a bank or of some angel investors. Reason for that was clear. They did not see it will be profitable. And now 2-3 years latter we can see that most were not. So. Not sure what else to expect then that people just rather decide to pass on new ICOs.

Regulations are another factor that slowdown the market. When a regulation is not favorable, even a piece of single news, people are thinking twice before putting their money on crypto. Of course, it is understandable because of its a hard-earned money and as possible they want to put on a sure way to gain profit. Another factor is that FUD news, which really affects the price.

it's better that way, regulation comes in and Bitcoin is recognized worldwide, this will help the price of bitcoin not be manipulated,
you can know now that bitcoin prices are very easy for that, rising skyrocketing and falling skyrocketing too, and the recent Matic coin case make the crypto community feel worried about investing and trading because in a few hours Matic is down 70%, and doesn't know the reason

[el kaka22]

Regulations make the bears harder as well, its not just towards bulls if you ask me. I think the slowing down is caused by whales realizing one day the halving will cause bitcoin price to go up so they are acting as if bitcoin is doing bad right now to accumulate as much bitcoin as they can, they are gathering their funds for now to sell later when halving takes place.

You will see that in few months bitcoin will start to go up because even whales will not be able to sell as much as others buy and eventually they will let go and buy themselves and that will cause bitcoin to skyrocket. I see 2020 as a new all time high year for us and regulations will not be able to stop it, regulations of SEC regards only the Americans, there are millions of people outside of USA that cares about bitcoin and is not bound by SEC as well.

[Wexlike]

Regulations make the bears harder as well, its not just towards bulls if you ask me. I think the slowing down is caused by whales realizing one day the halving will cause bitcoin price to go up so they are acting as if bitcoin is doing bad right now to accumulate as much bitcoin as they can, they are gathering their funds for now to sell later when halving takes place.

You will see that in few months bitcoin will start to go up because even whales will not be able to sell as much as others buy and eventually they will let go and buy themselves and that will cause bitcoin to skyrocket. I see 2020 as a new all time high year for us and regulations will not be able to stop it, regulations of SEC regards only the Americans, there are millions of people outside of USA that cares about bitcoin and is not bound by SEC as well.

Great point, I also assume wide-spread adoption when German banks are by default allowed to hold crypto currencies for customers from 2020 on.

[Theb]

We don't really have any choice don't we? It's either that or the whole crypto industry has to go underground without any kind of support from any government? We knew that this day will be coming where regulations, laws, and rules will take place in order for the cryptocurrencies to be fully accepted and be mass adapted by all. This is the thing aside from anonymity we have to sacrifice in order for us to be accepted by the government. Besides the bearish market in any cycle is just temporary and there are other factors to consider aside from regulations to see why we are having a slow moving market for months now, SEC regulating crypto might not even be the biggest factor affecting the slowed growth for crypto.