MicroBT announced M30s

[mikeywith]

On their twitter, Whatsminer announced a new beast, the brand new M30s.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Whatsminer_MBT/status/1203038918389616640?s=20

Does 88th at 3344watts , price and shipping dates are unkown yet,  but honestly 38j/t is quite a great achievement, i am more than happy seeing competition improvement as far as the mining industry is concerned, price will be the main thing to look for here ,so lets wait and see how this goes for whatsminer.  

[wndsnb]

Interesting. But the way it's worded in the tweet it sounds like the 88T may be at a full speed and the 38 J/T may be at a low power mode.

M30S can achieve power ratio as low as 38 J/T and hashrate as high as 88T!

If that is the case, then at full speed this thing could be pulling over 4kW! I can already smell the electrical fires.....

[judypug1956]

video shows 3359 watts an 88500 hash pretty impressive.

But I am not a fan of one cable for 3350 watts

[wndsnb]

video shows 3359 watts an 88500 hash pretty impressive.

But I am not a fan of one cable for 3350 watts

Just went back and saw that and was about to edit my post but you beat me to it. Yeah, still a lot of power for a single cable. Pretty much requires you to go 240V. 208V is over 16A , right near the limit of the C19.

Although I did see a m20s running when I visited my host a few weeks back. I felt the power cable and it wasn't warm. I think they are running 240 though and the power cord looked really beefy.

[philipma1957]

I run 2 m20s
I run 1 m21s

I use this cable

https://www.ebay.com/itm/L6-30P-C19-Molded-Power-Cord-10ft-220V-250V-30A-Ships-Free-/202821644944

12 gauge

my volts are about 225

so 16 x 225 = 3600 watts this is very close margin of error.

all three units get a lot of air.

they are all near 3  3000 cfm fans



I would be afraid to run 20 or 30 of these units

this is before we added these fans  the three big miners are not in place yet but would be on the left of this rack



My fear is  20 or 30 units  will be risky.

I would not mind one or two of them.

[fccs]

LOL they can barely deliver their m20 and m20s's on time.  Idiots.  I'm sure it will be a idiotic (PREORDER NOW, 8 MONTHS DELIVERY) and you will get it 2 months late.  By that time bitmain will have 20J miner out and lower price.  Yea, screw whats miner.  My m20's are finally arriving tomorrow...that I ordered in July.

[philipma1957]

LOL they can barely deliver their m20 and m20s's on time.  Idiots.  I'm sure it will be a idiotic (PREORDER NOW, 8 MONTHS DELIVERY) and you will get it 2 months late.  By that time bitmain will have 20J miner out and lower price.  Yea, screw whats miner.  My m20's are finally arriving tomorrow...that I ordered in July.

l would not be buying from them at this time.  as pangolin or whatsminer / microbt   did wrong.

way too many units were too slow to show.

[mikeywith]

Makes a lot of sense, the last time I had to buy a Whatsminer M21s I had to get it from a resellers in China to avoid the misery, I think I paid an extra 100$ compared to buying it directly from Whatsminer but i heard about the delays and stuff so I took a safer route, non of the Chinese resellers I know of complained about not receiving their gears on time, seems like Whatsminer put those guys on top of their list and screw the rest of the world 

Having said that I do think that they will get their shit together this time if they do want to stay in the market and not lose any more clients , anyway so far they haven't announced any release data or price, if they can bet bitmain's prices I might be willing to take the risk of getting an M30s just to review it.

[fccs]

My m20's finally are running and doing well.  The company itself is what went down south this year.  They dropped the ball hard.  I won't be buying whatsminer next year unless in stock ships same week.  Never doing a preorder with them again after this drama.

[taserz]

l would not be buying from them at this time.  as pangolin or whatsminer / microbt   did wrong.

way too many units were too slow to show.

I mean do what I did. You can flip your m20s upside down and you can actually cook your breakfast on it... I cooked 2 eggs and scrambled them on my M20s. You need to think big picture it's an amazing hot plate that ALSO mines crypto.

[Philopolymath]

And my M20 arrived DEAD and cost 560 bucks to return...4 months after payment.

[Instatic]

bad experience at pangolinminers ... 6 weeks delay
i want get some more miners in china, i know a fairly good place for mining ...
i dont know where i can buy

[mikeywith]

Have you tried other manufacturers such as?

• Bitmain
• Canaan / Avalon
• Innosilcon

Those are the three well known companies beside pangolinminers/MicroBt ,firstly try to get the gears from their website directly as it's usually cheaper, if not then try to source trusted rellers, it's really not a rocket science, it's pretty simple.

The market place is full of resellers, most are probably scammers so make sure you use escrow.

[Philopolymath]

So far Inno is the only manufacture that has not fucked me with shit gear.

After my nightmare with the M20 NFW will I ever buy gear from them again.

[philipma1957]

So far Inno is the only manufacture that has not fucked me with shit gear.

After my nightmare with the M20 NFW will I ever buy gear from them again.

For 2019  Whatsminer was okay for me..   But I have not ordered much from them after my July delivery.

The prices rose and the preorder time went far out.

No 2019 builder was  truly perfect for me.

Bitmain was almost.   about 23 good and 3 so so .

next would be cannan  3 good 1 so so 1 bad

then whatsminer   7 with no issues 4  with issues.

inno was the worst for me.  1 good    1  so so  it was late and pulled lots of power.

[akagi82]

Bitmain T17: 30, 2 DOA, 2 lost a hash boarddied after 3 weeks....  This is with near freezing room.
Innosilicon: 5 perfect, never had to reboot.

[philipma1957]

bitmain is the winner for me in 2019
room runs 70-90f. every

s17 pro good. 16 of them
t17.      good.   2 of them
t17e.     good.  2  but pulls 3300-3400 watts way over spec.
s9k.      okay.    4. 1 drops out now and then.
s15.      good.   1
t15.      good.   1
t17+.    good.   1

27 pieces feb 2019 to dec 2019. various run times.  just kept adding them month by month.

[AlecMe]

Guys,

It is now up for sale!

$2,430.00

38W/TH and delivery March 20 – 30, 1.5 months (-ish) to halving.

But, 1 cable to pull 3268W ± 10% worries me alot as a home user.

https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m30s-with-psu/

Code:

ATTENTION: This product is currently in pre-order stage,the product will be shipped during March 20 – 30, 2020. For more details, please contact sales@pangolinminer.com

Whatsminer M30S is ASIC miner for SHA-256 Algorithm, it can mine Bitcoin or Bitcoin cash with hashrate of 86Th/s (+-5%).

Power consumption is 3268W (+-10%).

Product Name
WhatsMiner M30S-86T
Hash Rate	86T±5%
Power Ratio
38W/T±10%
Reference Power on Wall
3268W±10%
Power Specifications
P21, 200~277VAC 20A MAX, 3300W
Working Temperature	-5℃ ~ 35℃
Dimensions	390mm(L) x 150mm(W) x 225mm(H)
Net Weight	10.5 KG
Network Connection	Ethernet

[HagssFIN]

Wow, another big power boy, and the efficiency just keeps getting better. The current load is indeed quite close to the nominal max. current (16 Amps) for the C19 connector. But the power consumption is quite the same as with the M20S. I did not notice any alarming heat in the C19 connector with my M20S.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Just for the record, max rating on the C19/C20 depends on which is used - International or North America rating - and of course the wire size the cord has.
per Interpower (who makes them)

C19 connectors offered by Interpower are rated at 16A/250VAC international and 20A/125 or 250VAC North America with a temperature rating of up to 70°C/158°F.

C20 inlets are also rated at 16A/250VAC international and 20A/250VAC North America. The temperature rating is 60°C/140°F to 70°C/158°F, depending on the approval agency.

While personally I'd use the 16A rating, the N.A. rating of 20A does make me feel better about pushing it.