Explain to me why you think you are more knowledgable about bitcoin than me

[blandana]

In  opinion, the core of the matter is not that OP is smarter than the rest of us but it is how some members of this forum carry themselves. Admittedly, I sometimes experience some arrogance of a few members of this forum but knowing that we are all still living in a democratic world I just shrugged it off, not letting them affect the way I think while remaining active on this forum. The point of the matter is that no matter how knowledgeable or expert we can be, we should always be humble in dealing with other people and in presenting our own ideas and opinions. There should be no condescending attitude toward anybody as we are all equals in this forum except if one is really just a spammer.

No, I'm done being humble if people treat the internet like some place just to "flame" people.  I'm not putting up with rotten attitudes.  They have no place here.  

And to franky, sounds like you might have more experience but maybe not depending on how often you're actually on the computer.  Can't argue with your date but I still might have more experience than you.  It doesn't matter how big of a "hoard" you have either unfortunately.    You're probably the only candidate on this list though who I would consider admitting that you could be more knowledgeable.  Congrats there, but I still can't claim you are.  Thanks for not being a freaking ass like everyone else.  At least I can take your post seriously.

One of your points franky, however I cannot agree with.  Since I have traded on Binance.com and countless other U.S citizens have as well...If it is true I and others from our nation have been subjected to felonies it does not fall "outside" of the U.S. SEC's jurisdiction.

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[100action]

I've had a slew of recent vulgar responses from my posts recently and I figure, if everyone think's they're so smart...Post here.  Why do you think you know more about Bitcoin than me.  I made 20,000 dollars trading it right in 2017 and ever since then the forced buys have gotten out of hand.  I have experience and I know there's a problem with buys even if this forum wont admit it.

I implore you if you're not going to be an ass.  Please ...tell me why I need to consider your opinion especially if it's rude and vulgar?  And besides that.  if you aren't, state your experience if you would like.

I could claim to be an expert and it would be valid but I don't.  There seems to be a lot of other people here who claim to be experts just because they harass people though.

If you reply with a reponse I do not agree with however I do warn you I will respond and refute your claim.  This is how real life works.

I've never noticed your posts but I did a quick scan of your posting history.

Based on your posting history only, and I apologise if it hurts your ego, a significant portion of the community would have a greater understanding of Bitcoin.  You seem to have an extremely superficial understanding (if you can even call it that) of Bitcoin that has been looked solely though the lens of price and market movements.

Your understanding on the following key topics have not been demonstrated and are likely to be low based on your posting pattern:
- Proof-of-work: how it works, its postives, its drawbacks and its needs basis
- Byzantine Fault Tolerance
- Second layer scaling solutions like the lightning network
- The history of money from adoption based on its properties to the impacts caused by government interference
- Austrian / Keynsian / Chicago / Marxist schools of economic thought and its relationship with bitcoin
- BTC emission schedule and its significance including the current relationship between block rewards and transaction fees
- Longest chain rule and its significance
- Hard forks / soft forks
- The hashing difficulty and its significance

How much money you've made is irrelevant.  Many people holding from early 2007 have made 20,000 + anyway (again this doesnt mean anything) so your 'achievement' means nothing.

[franky1]

seems like you are angry at the world. i can understand things get emotional. but remaining angry helps no one and can mess with your health if it goes on too long.
and if you look at my post history you will see i am on these forums and active daily.
i am not an occasional trader i am an active trader. i do not follow the crappy 'trend' analysis stuff of drawing lines on charts based purely on previous lines. i actually study technical considerations such as how much coins are hoarded in exchanges coldwallets(bitcoin richlist) vs how much exits those addresses

i also look at the cost of mining as a base number of costs. and also the UTXO movements of how much moves in certain periods to see if people are actively moving funds around or just hoarding. which helps me to base if a bitcoin price is near value or speculative way to high above value.

when analysing the UTXO over time you can start pairing utxo's to a value of the time the funds move and thus get to know what values different peoples holdings have.
EG i still have coins from when they were $6 in 2012 so i could happily sell all the way down to $7 and call it profit..
knowing peoples minimums (id consider $5 a loss) means you get to see what is the absolute bottom number people will sell for to break even and you can start to form a map of value.. and along with mining costs. you can build up what is known as a 'support level' for bottom line values

but here is a tip for when you withdraw your funds from foreign exchanges and use US exchanges
do not put all your funds into one order.
split it up into 5-10 allotments. do not try to grab 5%-10% movements. just aim for 1%-2% movements. they happen many times a day so you can rinse and repeat often and accumulate more than 5%-10% when combining the efforts than you would if just waiting, hoping and praying for waves of 5%-10% or tsunami's of 15%+

if you put one order in and the price doesnt move up. leave it there and while the price moves down put another order in. that way you have 9 other opportunities to ride a dip or hit the lift
just keep riding the small ripples and dont be waiting all day for the tsunami's

when you start lowering your expectations of large spreads and just nibble at the small movements you become less concerned and less worried about the whale orders. you actually start to use the whale orders to your advantage

the funny thing is in 2013 i experienced the same whale order thing as you (MTGox was great then) when there were whales trading 5000btc at a time. i soon learned how to use it to my advantage and learned to appreciate the walls as it actually made me more productive going with their flow instead of treating them as the enemy..
again i didnt put in my huge hoards, i was happily playing with smaller amounts within the walls

but first before considering any of this. take your funds out of foreign exchanges and use one within your jurisdiction

[blandana]

I've had a slew of recent vulgar responses from my posts recently and I figure, if everyone think's they're so smart...Post here.  Why do you think you know more about Bitcoin than me.  I made 20,000 dollars trading it right in 2017 and ever since then the forced buys have gotten out of hand.  I have experience and I know there's a problem with buys even if this forum wont admit it.

I implore you if you're not going to be an ass.  Please ...tell me why I need to consider your opinion especially if it's rude and vulgar?  And besides that.  if you aren't, state your experience if you would like.

I could claim to be an expert and it would be valid but I don't.  There seems to be a lot of other people here who claim to be experts just because they harass people though.

If you reply with a reponse I do not agree with however I do warn you I will respond and refute your claim.  This is how real life works.

I've never noticed your posts but I did a quick scan of your posting history.

Based on your posting history only, and I apologise if it hurts your ego, a significant portion of the community would have a greater understanding of Bitcoin.  You seem to have an extremely superficial understanding (if you can even call it that) of Bitcoin that has been looked solely though the lens of price and market movements.

Your understanding on the following key topics have not been demonstrated and are likely to be low based on your posting pattern:
- Proof-of-work: how it works, its postives, its drawbacks and its needs basis
- Byzantine Fault Tolerance
- Second layer scaling solutions like the lightning network
- The history of money from adoption based on its properties to the impacts caused by government interference
- Austrian / Keynsian / Chicago / Marxist schools of economic thought and its relationship with bitcoin
- BTC emission schedule and its significance including the current relationship between block rewards and transaction fees
- Longest chain rule and its significance
- Hard forks / soft forks
- The hashing difficulty and its significance

How much money you've made is irrelevant.  Many people holding from early 2007 have made 20,000 + anyway (again this doesnt mean anything) so your 'achievement' means nothing.

Actually none of this hurts my ego.  I'm doing this to promote safetey and understanding of bitcoin, not act like I'm smarter than you.  A lot of what your post is based off of seems valid, however just because I dont have posts for four years HERE doesn't mean I haven't been active in the community.

and franky, I'm not butthurt and you dont need to explain market analytics to me, I'm actually smart as f%$#.  I even took astrophysics in college, pretty neat huh?  Hope you don't kill yourself too hard if things keep going down franky.  You understand that if bitcoin keeps going down I can't do anything about the value of your "hoard" right?  Lets just get that clear.

[pooya87]

most of us don't think we are either knowledgeable or experts and what we share is just our opinion based on whatever amount of experience we have. but you on the other hand, seem to be convinced that you are an expert in everything and whenever someone disagrees with your opinion you call their disagreement "vulgar". how do you even expect people to even bother continuing discussion with you when you don't even want to hear anyone opposing your views?

[btc78]

I've had a slew of recent vulgar responses from my posts recently and I figure, if everyone think's they're so smart...Post here.  Why do you think you know more about Bitcoin than me.  I made 20,000 dollars trading it right in 2017 and ever since then the forced buys have gotten out of hand.

If you think Bitcoin is about trading, certainly you don't even what it is

Search in Google "what's bitcoin" and come back in a few weeks so we can discuss

You're assuming you know what my experience is.  Over five years.  I find your comment offense, rude, and obviously is assuming too much.  No.  How about YOU try again with a more decent reponse instead of acting like I'm an idiot?

calm down mate,this is an open forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion.you are the one who started provoking people on how smarter they are compared to you so expect criticism as that is included to the way to create this thread.

i will not rise my flag because i admit that you are smart but we have our own basis about being smart and for me?it is not about how much you earn from this market but how longer you can stay profitin

[franky1]

ok tried to be helpful but looks like topic creator just wants to whinge at everyone.

moving on
(yawn)

[blandana]

I've had a slew of recent vulgar responses from my posts recently and I figure, if everyone think's they're so smart...Post here.  Why do you think you know more about Bitcoin than me.  I made 20,000 dollars trading it right in 2017 and ever since then the forced buys have gotten out of hand.

If you think Bitcoin is about trading, certainly you don't even what it is

Search in Google "what's bitcoin" and come back in a few weeks so we can discuss

You're assuming you know what my experience is.  Over five years.  I find your comment offense, rude, and obviously is assuming too much.  No.  How about YOU try again with a more decent reponse instead of acting like I'm an idiot?

calm down mate,this is an open forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion.you are the one who started provoking people on how smarter they are compared to you so expect criticism as that is included to the way to create this thread.

i will not rise my flag because i admit that you are smart but we have our own basis about being smart and for me?it is not about how much you earn from this market but how longer you can stay profitin

glad it seems like you're seeing that other real people exist and you're starting to not be so judgmental.  good job.

[blandana]

ok tried to be helpful but looks like topic creator just wants to whinge at everyone.

moving on
(yawn)

franky you're accusing me of something that's not true.  Do not do that.  (and you spelled "whine" wrong eheheheh Im gonna flame you so hard jk)

[blandana]

most of us don't think we are either knowledgeable or experts and what we share is just our opinion based on whatever amount of experience we have. but you on the other hand, seem to be convinced that you are an expert in everything and whenever someone disagrees with your opinion you call their disagreement "vulgar". how do you even expect people to even bother continuing discussion with you when you don't even want to hear anyone opposing your views?

on the contrary my friend.  I'm not trying to be an expert.  I AM an expert and I'm waiting for everyone to realize that.  Regarding your claims to my comments about vulgar responses, what you say is untrue.  I have been subjected to numerous posts with very bad language and there's a point where I have to draw the line.  Language that I've been exposed to is inhibiting our ability to understand each other and I'm not happy about it.

[franky1]

seems you feel de-emasculate and trying to re-affirm your intelligence, as psychologically you feel like you made some stupid trades due to whales making you emotional.

so here goes
you are king of your kingdom
you are smarter then Einstein
you are wiser than a tibetan monk
you are richer than amazon
you are more popular than zuckerburg
you know more words than an encyclopedia
you are the admiral of all grammar nazi's
you invented all inventions

here even have 1 merit due to you being every positive thing you want people to consider you as.

... now what ..
time to get over your experience and move forward

[blandana]

seems you feel de-emasculate and trying to re-affirm your intelligence, as psychologically you feel like you made some stupid trades due to whales making you emotional.

so here goes
you are king of your kingdom
you are smarter then Einstein
you are wiser than a tibetan monk
you are richer than amazon
you are more popular than zuckerburg
you know more words than an encyclopedia
you are the admiral of all grammar nazi's
you invented all inventions

here even have 1 merit due to you being every positive thing you want people to consider you as.

... now what ..
time to get over your experience and move forward

franky you're not looking good to me is there something bothering you?  I'm not going to get involved because it might have to do with a significant decision you're trying to make with your "hoard" right now but I can't argue with you over psychological accusations.  This isn't really about that kind of thing.

[blandana]

seems you feel de-emasculate and trying to re-affirm your intelligence, as psychologically you feel like you made some stupid trades due to whales making you emotional.

so here goes
you are king of your kingdom
you are smarter then Einstein
you are wiser than a tibetan monk
you are richer than amazon
you are more popular than zuckerburg
you know more words than an encyclopedia
you are the admiral of all grammar nazi's
you invented all inventions

here even have 1 merit due to you being every positive thing you want people to consider you as.

... now what ..
time to get over your experience and move forward

and franky if you're serious, I might be smarter than Einstein,
I might be the king of your kingdom,
I might be wiser than a tibetan monk
I am not richer than amazon however,
I could be more popular than Zuckerburg but cannot prove it since it is internet based and don't have data
I do not know more words than an encylopedia
I could be the admiral of all grammar nazis but do not enforce my knowledge
And I did not invent all inventions.

[blandana]

oh c'mon no more comments?  my nordic runes were just going into overdrive (I'm just kidding)

I'm going to bed but almost all the people just trying to act like I don't know about bitcoin, trading, technicals, and act like I'm here for attention should probably be met with skepticism.  Whether or not I'm right or wrong if you are reading this I'm sure you can tell I'm putting effort into this. 

I'm not a psychopath trying to control you.  I'm a 30 year old "kid" who got rich because I learned how to trade bitcoin right instead of acting like the market is one sided and it's always going to go up.  No matter how long society as a whole wants to drag out this "hodler's dream"  it will bring you pain and suffering knowing people like me have time to trade and are trading and selling and buying making more money than you as you sit around and watch your investment like a painting on the wall.  I'm just telling it like it is.  I'm really tired of this joke about acting like it's tough for "doing nothing" and acting like you're a real investor/trader.  Not that holding is wrong but there's a lot of harassment from the "holder community" it seems like towards traders and I'm not really impressed.

[airdnasxela]

Why does it seems like you are looking for a fight? Who said that you don't know Bitcoin? Yeah you've got experiences, you made a lot of money, but that doesn't only measure how good and knowledgeable you are in bitcoin. We have our own knowledge about Bitcoin that we acquired through experience.

Let's say you have more knowledge than me. Then congrats. I hope you also learn how to control your emotions and how to be humble about getting "rich" because you know how to trade. Instead of boasting, why not use your knowledge to teach other people.

[Jet Cash]

Why does it matter? I suspect that there may be a couple of areas where I have greater knowledge than most of the members here, and this may give me an advantage when applying it to the Bitcoin economy, but in most areas my knowledge is less than many here. The importance of this forum is the improvement and dissemination of knowledge, and I am grateful to be able to be a part of it. You opening post seemed to emphasise your trading knowledge, but that is peripheral to Bitcoin in my opinion.

You may have noticed that I referred to the Bitcoin economy, rather than to Bitcoin, and I believe that the long term stability and potential of Bitcoin is more important than short term trading activities.

[coolcoinz]

The real king doesn't need to remind everyone who he is.

I wanted to reply in this thread and explain something to OP, much like franky1 did, but when I saw him boasting about how experienced and knowledgeable he is I knew that it would be a waste of time.  Let's leave Mr. Know All to himself. He's obviously looking for recognition and approval.
Also, don't forget to report my post OP. I know that it turns you on.

[eddie13]

I made 20,000 dollars trading it right in 2017

If that is your criteria for how "smart" you are about Bitcoin then even I'm "smarter" than you, and I can't even read code..
Many people here are a hundred times smarter than you, and if we assume an IQ high of like 200, your IQ would be about 2 compared to them according to this criteria..

That's obviously an insult too and is what you believe.  However it's obviously meant to be offensive and untrue.  Even a baby has a higher IQ than two.  Consider bringing your insults like that elsewhere.  It's not funny.

It is meant to be untrue thereby proving your criteria false..
Their was no insult intended because it is quite obvious that your IQ is higher than 2, evidence being you seem to have found the power button on a computer..


I like "whales" manipulating the market.. It's just free market to me, and they keep the market interesting..
As long as they have the coin to risk manipulating the market with then have at it.. Put on a show!!

What I dislike is exchanges manipulating the market that don't actually have the coins.. Fake coins (or $$)..