Ban evasion by ban evader - please permaban - case #5

[marlboroza]

Account Dammitt
Evading ban - account GalaWan
Evading ban - account Aqualung89

Connection via btc addy 196i9LBuztrqGe6e243MTXbj6k4J2A6b6y, twitter https://twitter.com/FatihBudakfb , ethereum address 0x3a14aFEAC599E7BF7963aDD71efAF55447845b12 & 0xd2964d2816287410B0b3e0f4485BFcbbca5F4FC3

Btctalk Name: Cromwelle

Rank: Full Member

Current post count: 607

Btc address: 196i9LBuztrqGe6e243MTXbj6k4J2A6b6y

Wearing Avatar  : Yes

Hello, I would like to join. Hope I will be accepted.

(I believe they messed something while typing btctalk name: Cromwelle)

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User: Dammitt
Postion to Apply: Full Member
Posts Start: 596
Wear Appropriate Sig and or Avatar : Yes
Joining Avatar Campaign: Yes
Address: 196i9LBuztrqGe6e243MTXbj6k4J2A6b6y

Thanks.

Account GalaWan used the same addy to claim giveaway:

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Account Aqualung89 used twitter https://twitter.com/FatihBudakfb and ethereum address 0x3a14aFEAC599E7BF7963aDD71efAF55447845b12 here:

#JOIN & #Proof of authentication
"Name" of Bounty Campaign : Twitter Campaign,Signature Campaign
Bitcointalk username: Aqualung89
Bitcointalk profile link:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=831340
Telegram username: @Cromwelle
Link to your profile on Twitter: https://twitter.com/FatihBudakfb
Your Number Post: 2195
Eth adress: 0x3a14aFEAC599E7BF7963aDD71efAF55447845b12

(note: telegram username Cromwelle)

Also here:

Twitter Handle: https://twitter.com/FatihBudakfb

Coinroulette Username: Aqualung89

Tweet today: https://twitter.com/FatihBudakfb/status/741605327574077440

Thank you.

GalaWan used the same twitter here:

Betballer Username: Cromwelle

Tweet: https://twitter.com/FatihBudakfb/status/760960875046002688

Twitter: https://twitter.com/FatihBudakfb

Dammitt used the same twitter here:

WEEK 3 - Jan 03 - Jan 09

Bitcointalk username: Dammitt
Twitter post: 795
Twitter account: https://twitter.com/FatihBudakfb
Twitter followers: 1087
Bitroad username: Dammitt

For this bounty https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2213994.0:

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Ethereum address 0xd2964d2816287410B0b3e0f4485BFcbbca5F4FC3 is visible in spreadsheet of that bounty campaign (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lfLxuTZj-KNkLlhxosstD2dxgq8As3AT2m1wb-NtaIY/edit#gid=2076006898):



Aqualung89 used the same address here:

Hi Sylon

My old myetherwallet: 0xd2964d2816287410B0b3e0f4485BFcbbca5F4FC3

This my new myetherwallet address: 0x3a14aFEAC599E7BF7963aDD71efAF55447845b12

If you can change the old address I do not use anymore thank you.

And, account Dammitt:

Hi I guess this time past I guess I do not see any problem I address here Thank you.

Mew: 0x3a14aFEAC599E7BF7963aDD71efAF55447845b12

Number on spreedsheet  Article Video: 1190

28.02=Kyc number on spreedsheet : 94

As usual, if any post disappear, use archive or PM for link.
On side note, this is very interesting merit distribution to banned DT member's alt account the_doctor:


source: https://bpip.org

...which is actually irrelevant for this topic, just smaller observation.

Just another not related thing for topic, account Dammitt sent retaliatory -ve to ThePharmacist:

And yet for unknown reason it reminded me of this line (which account goraset placed on my trust wall):


I am not sure why am I posting these not related things  

[Quickseller]

If the guys is an account trader, how did you rule out that one of the accounts was sold, and the people are now different if you are asking for this person to be banned?

edit: I am curious where the OP is getting his 'tips' of all these 'ban evaders' *cough* *cough*

[marlboroza]

Sorry, what I meant to say is, they wanted to buy account (they are account buyer, not trader):

0.01 BTC

So yes, title is little misleading. You can blame "fat fingers", "cat jumped on my keyboard while typing", "I was abducted by aliens and they forced me to write this" or whatever you want. But that was maybe a month after their registration.

how did you rule out that one of the accounts was sold, and the people are now different if you are asking for this person to be banned?

When? Did they use account to sell it? Which account is sold if it is sold?

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed

[Quickseller]

My question was based on the presumption that the person was a seller, not buyer. The problem would be that Dammitt may have posted blockchain linked addresses, sold one or more of the accounts in question, and Dammitt was subsequently banned.

[marlboroza]

My question was based on the presumption that the person was a seller, not buyer. The problem would be that Dammitt may have posted blockchain linked addresses, sold one or more of the accounts in question, and Dammitt was subsequently banned.

Ok, I changed title and removed word "trader" from it. I also noticed that you have edited your post, I am not sure is it a question or you are trying to imply something (and I might have idea what you have in mind) but it is probably wrong:

edit: I am curious where the OP is getting his 'tips' of all these 'ban evaders' *cough* *cough*

source: https://bpip.org

Please just type here what you had in mind with "*cough* *cough*", I don't want to start another thread just because you are implying something or just trolling. I will accept explanation in PM as well, I promise I won't share it with anyone. You have my word.

[Quickseller]

I am not suggesting any type of wrongdoing on your part. I will leave it at that.

[suchmoon]

My question was based on the presumption that the person was a seller, not buyer. The problem would be that Dammitt may have posted blockchain linked addresses, sold one or more of the accounts in question, and Dammitt was subsequently banned.

Right, and Aqualung89 continues to use that address in his profile because that's just how account farmers roll.

I can understand your concern. Some of your farmed accounts got permabanned too so it would be in your best interest to sow doubt in such cases.

[Quickseller]

My question was based on the presumption that the person was a seller, not buyer. The problem would be that Dammitt may have posted blockchain linked addresses, sold one or more of the accounts in question, and Dammitt was subsequently banned.

Right, and Aqualung89 continues to use that address in his profile because that's just how account farmers roll.

I can understand your concern. Some of your farmed accounts got permabanned too so it would be in your best interest to sow doubt in such cases.

Sometimes expecting mothers try to be nice to others, and make an effort to be an overall good person. I understand both of those things are difficult for you, but you should try that.

I am not sure why Dammitt was banned, but as far as I can tell, the other two accounts have not caused any major problems or trouble in the ~6 months since Dammitt was banned. Assuming whatever Dammitt did to get banned was not especially disruptive, I would suggest moving on.

[yahoo62278]

My question was based on the presumption that the person was a seller, not buyer. The problem would be that Dammitt may have posted blockchain linked addresses, sold one or more of the accounts in question, and Dammitt was subsequently banned.

Right, and Aqualung89 continues to use that address in his profile because that's just how account farmers roll.

I can understand your concern. Some of your farmed accounts got permabanned too so it would be in your best interest to sow doubt in such cases.

Sometimes expecting mothers try to be nice to others, and make an effort to be an overall good person. I understand both of those things are difficult for you, but you should try that.

I am not sure why Dammitt was banned, but as far as I can tell, the other two accounts have not caused any major problems or trouble in the ~6 months since Dammitt was banned. Assuming whatever Dammitt did to get banned was not especially disruptive, I would suggest moving on.

Why have rules at all if the forum is not going to enforce them?

[hacker1001101001]

Sometimes expecting mothers try to be nice to others, and make an effort to be an overall good person. I understand both of those things are difficult for you, but you should try that.

I am not sure why Dammitt was banned, but as far as I can tell, the other two accounts have not caused any major problems or trouble in the ~6 months since Dammitt was banned. Assuming whatever Dammitt did to get banned was not especially disruptive, I would suggest moving on.

Why have rules at all if the forum is not going to enforce them?

Still, I think what QS said is logically right, they have not done anything harmful rather and moving on is the most humanitarian move.

[yahoo62278]

Sometimes expecting mothers try to be nice to others, and make an effort to be an overall good person. I understand both of those things are difficult for you, but you should try that.

I am not sure why Dammitt was banned, but as far as I can tell, the other two accounts have not caused any major problems or trouble in the ~6 months since Dammitt was banned. Assuming whatever Dammitt did to get banned was not especially disruptive, I would suggest moving on.

Why have rules at all if the forum is not going to enforce them?

Still, I think what QS said is logically right, they have not done anything harmful rather and moving on is the most humanitarian move.

So if I rob you for 100btc on 1 account and get banned, long as I haven't done anything on an alt account I should be good to go? I understand that's completely blowing up a situation, but it's not.

[marlboroza]

Still, I think what QS said is logically right, they have not done anything harmful rather and moving on is the most humanitarian move.

And yet you said this:

Yes, multiple account is not forbidden, but one of the alt of goraset, named the_doctor was banned from the forum and this is a direct ban to the individual operating the account so one can't create a new account too, it would be called as ban evasion. In one way or the other goraset is evading a ban.

So if I rob you for 100btc on 1 account and get banned, long as I haven't done anything on an alt account I should be good to go? I understand that's completely blowing up a situation, but it's not.

It is not that account is banned, user(lets call her Alice) is banned. So if Alice's account, let's call it Quickseller, is banned that means Alice can't use alt account let's call it PrimeNumber7 *cough* *cough*.

[dkbit98]

Why have rules at all if the forum is not going to enforce them?

Looks like we have rules so people can break them 

I reported several members for ban evasion and abusing bounties, but some of them still live and continue abusing.

[Vispilio]

/quote]
Why have rules at all if the forum is not going to enforce them?

Because the long standing admin of the forum himself has declared rules are enforced only after evaluation on a case by case basis when it comes to banning, unless it's a very serious offense (emphases mine):

<...> Nobody is banned strictly because of "the rules"; it's always handled case-by-case, but almost always, plagiarists deserve to be permabanned.

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.

Also it should be evident by now that digging back into some minor events that have occurred and been resolved years ago, and making flimsy connections from them to then come out here crying "perma ban tens of accounts" is a clear detriment to the camaraderie and engagement in this forum,

and over zealous users who have gone on similar witch hunts in the past have been blacklisted personally by theymos, I believe his position on people obsessed with pursuing petty dramas and turning an intellectual forum into a telenovela soap opera hasn't changed...

[suchmoon]

and over zealous users who have gone on similar witch hunts in the past have been blacklisted personally by theymos, I believe his position on people obsessed with pursuing petty dramas and turning an intellectual forum into a telenovela soap opera hasn't changed...

Who has been blacklisted for "pursuing petty dramas"? And what does this have to do with this thread?

[Vispilio]

Who has been blacklisted for "pursuing petty dramas"? And what does this have to do with this thread?

hmmmm I don't know, I personally think you are not so bad  but according to an increasing number of highly insightful people you might be next in line...

so I suggest you contemplate a bit on the excellent advice given to you a couple of posts above by Quickseller.

[suchmoon]

Who has been blacklisted for "pursuing petty dramas"? And what does this have to do with this thread?

hmmmm I don't know, I personally think you are not so bad  but according to an increasing number of highly insightful people you might be next in line...

so I suggest you contemplate a bit on the excellent advice given to you a couple of posts above by Quickseller.

So I take it you just made the blacklisting for petty dramas story up in order to deflect from the ban evasion facts presented by marlboroza and to imply that he is creating a petty drama. Does that sound about right?

[eddie13]

My question was based on the presumption that the person was a seller, not buyer. The problem would be that Dammitt may have posted blockchain linked addresses, sold one or more of the accounts in question, and Dammitt was subsequently banned.

Well that's what they get for linking accounts them dumb fucks.. Or for buying, selling, or using accounts with addys that may later get linked to and banned..
Their opsec is shit and do you really think they are going to abide by the rules and not post from some other unlinked account? This is just a setback to them..

Isn't post quality and the possibility of bans something you check when buying accounts or taking them collateral?
Check better next time and don't link yourself to some dirty account by playing with it, duh..

They better get whip-smart if they think they're gonna make it as an outlaw..

[marlboroza]

Because the long standing admin of the forum himself has declared rules are enforced only after evaluation on a case by case basis when it comes to banning, unless it's a very serious offense (emphases mine):

You are looking at wrong declaration, take a look:

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]

flimsy connections

So this is just another thread you didn't read?

and over zealous users who have gone on similar witch hunts in the past have been blacklisted personally by theymos

Source of that or you are making shit up.

I believe his position on people obsessed with pursuing petty dramas and turning an intellectual forum into a telenovela soap opera hasn't changed...

What have you been smoking? You are the one who is ignoring the fact that scammer is default trust member https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2050090.0 and his retaliatory nonsensical feedback is pretty much visible on profile of user whose article they stole not to mention that they are evading ban using alt accounts while rule #25 is pretty much clear. Not to mention that another user (who is also default trust 1 member and evading ban) has made scammer and ban evader default trust 2 member. It is not my fault that certain things led to other accounts which I mention in threads #3 - #6, well since I have found them I feel it is correct to point rule breakers, unless you think everyone who made report is creating drama? Unless you think I should create one thread for 6 separated cases?

Only drama I see here is drama you are trying to create with your post, adding some irrelevant things to it and trying to move thread into another direction, read your words again:

Also it should be evident by now that digging back into some minor events that have occurred and been resolved years ago, and making flimsy connections from them to then come out here crying "perma ban tens of accounts" is a clear detriment to the camaraderie and engagement in this forum,

and over zealous users who have gone on similar witch hunts in the past have been blacklisted personally by theymos, I believe his position on people obsessed with pursuing petty dramas and turning an intellectual forum into a telenovela soap opera hasn't changed...

This is the drama part, what you are doing here is trying to cause some emotional reaction, to engage more users into unnecessary "fight".

Trying to create more drama:

hmmmm I don't know, I personally think you are not so bad   but according to an increasing number of highly insightful people you might be next in line...

so I suggest you contemplate a bit on the excellent advice given to you a couple of posts above by Quickseller.

What this post has to do with this thread? Spam somewhere else.

[Vispilio]

~~~ (fake righteous indignation...)

Trying to create more drama:

hmmmm I don't know, I personally think you are not so bad   but according to an increasing number of highly insightful people you might be next in line...

so I suggest you contemplate a bit on the excellent advice given to you a couple of posts above by Quickseller.

What this post has to do with this thread?

that was a conversation that is completely unrelated to you marlboroza,

in fact I don't see how any of these issues concern you   ,

after all, aren't you here because someone is asking you to do their dirty work for them   ?..

otherwise how could anyone explain opening 6 threads of ban requests all directed towards Turkish users based on minor things like shared social media accounts (newsflash: many of the twitter accounts used for altcoin bounties are fake anyways, and likely got passed around between friends like a blunt, few people I know ever used their original social media accounts for bounties, but whatever...) when you have had no meaningful interactions with any of them in years ?..

What could possess an individual to suddenly go on a crusade against 10's of people he has had 0 contact with since years ?.. I'm sure the admin and staff will take these extremely bizarro details about your situation into consideration when making up their minds about your precious "cases"...

Good Luck